Oliver Trade Rumours

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Looks like the Bulldogs will have to accept one first rounder which means Geelong can offer us their future first plus a percentage of his wage

Edited October 12 by greenwaves

[Satyriconhome 10,675]

16 minutes ago, BDA said:

I would seriously question the judgment of a coach that was bothered about anything that gets written here. Don't they have more important things to deal with? 

Yes,, but they get derailed from the more important stuff, like other members of the Club's staff, trying to stop the noise created by the click baiters, better to stop it at one of the sources. If you look through many threads on this board, you can cross reference some of the comments to articles (which is me being polite) created by the click baiters, hence the experiment a couple of years ago.

[The heart beats true 18,084]

For those of you who get annoyed by posters on here, but still want to contribute, I developed a coping mechanism a few years back that helps keep it all fun.

I imagine certain posters as fictional characters. One is George Costanza, another is Eeyore from the Winnie the Pooh books, and another is Dwight from the Office. Then when I read their posts it makes me laugh, and helps me remember they are just people.

Whatever you need to do to stick around I reckon. This place needs all the opinions, but it’s the most fun when nobody takes it too seriously.

[deejammin' 2,361]

2 hours ago, mo64 said:

Is it only unreadable because the rumours are seen as negative towards the MFC? Are you ok with people posting that we are still actively trying to recruit Wade Derksen, even though Jason McCartney has publicly shut down any move?

Whilst the powers that be at the MFC have shut down Oliver being traded, I've no doubt that Oliver's management are still in discussion with the Cats to get a reasonable trade proposal on the table. And I'm sure that's where PF's rumour is coming from. If it doesn't eventuate, it doesn't mean that his rumour was incorrect.

I largely agree with you that it’s possible the club is saying no and Geelong and Clayton’s management are still trying. They are welcome to present offers, I don’t think anyone has a problem with that, I also think MFC’s public statements have gone so far now that there’s no way it can happen, regardless of the offer but let’s see. 
 

The Derksen Oliver comparison is pretty erroneous though. Derksen is not guaranteed any senior games at GWS, Oliver is first choice mid for us when fit. Derksen has a young family that he wants to move home to MFC, Oliver would live in essentially the same city and isn’t moving for family reasons. Derksen has one year remaining on a relatively low contract at GWS, while MFC had reportedly offered 3 years at a higher rate offering more job security. Oliver is set for life on his wage at the Dees. They’re pretty different cases.

I don’t think anyone has a problem with clubs chasing players or making offers. But leaking through the media, applying pressure to a club through the media, continuing this after a club’s President and list manager had stated it’s not happening and your list manager has put it to bed. That’s pretty disrespectful, I’d be pretty unhappy if we were doing that. As far as I can see Lamb has said we’re interested in Derksen but he’s contracted. No meetings on farms, cleaning out lockers, calls for the removal of CEOs, ignoring President’s statements. It’s pretty wildly different and a false equivalence.

I also like that clubs are finally holding players to their contracts. It might finally restore some balance in the trading system.

Edited October 12 by deejammin'

[Satyriconhome 10,675]

3 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

For those of you who get annoyed by posters on here, but still want to contribute, I developed a coping mechanism a few years back that helps keep it all fun.

I imagine certain posters as fictional characters. One is George Costanza, another is Eeyore from the Winnie the Pooh books, and another is Dwight from the Office. Then when I read their posts it makes me laugh, and helps me remember they are just people.

Whatever you need to do to stick around I reckon. This place needs all the opinions, but it’s the most fun when nobody takes it too seriously.

You mean characterise some like this: 

[Demon Disciple 11,998]

16 hours ago, Flowergirl said:

This is true, and it's important to note that Damien Barrett is critical of the AFL on a regular basis. 

Yep, Damo is critical of everyone except himself, because he’s just so [censored] perfect all the time.

[The heart beats true 18,084]

13 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

You mean characterise some like this: 

Whether it takes Saty! 👍

[Little Goffy 14,398]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Why because you simply don't agree with his opinion?? 

Put him on ignore then. Not for you to tell everyone else what they should and shouldn't do.

That's so meta.

I am really impressed.

[DubDee 25,433]

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Why because you simply don't agree with his opinion?? 

Put him on ignore then. Not for you to tell everyone else what they should and shouldn't do.

Of course not, i like a good debate or mature argument 

I just don’t like posters that dominate threads with nonsense and belligerently repeat the same thing over and over and bait others into pointless arguments 

Also when they get called out, play the victim rather than learning from it. 

My last comment was tongue in cheek, of course people can reply to whatever they wish

[dazzledavey36 54,087]

11 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

That's so meta.

I am really impressed.

You're impresses easily. That's a concern in itself.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,121]

1 hour ago, deejammin' said:

If they did/do won’t truly be relevant for at least a year though. 
They’ll want to put their best foot forward even if they do want a trade to make sure clubs maintain interest and our club will be doing everything it can to provide the best environment so they stay.
Even then they and we will have the same dilemma in a year if the club wants to hold them to their contracts. 

It is highly problematic if two of your highest paid players are only gearing up because they are locked in long term and can't get a suitable trade happening. You can spin it but it is not a great outcome for the MFC. They may turn it around and fall back in love with the club but chances are it is more destabilising than not.

[Hopeful Demon 1,517]

On 11/10/2024 at 13:32, Ollie fan said:

Dr Gonzo always says it. I think he is in the same group as Hawk the Demon and Dr Don Duffy - the Lawrence group.

Are you really this thin skinned? Every time someone expresses dissatisfaction with the club's decisions you just resort to cheap personal attacks. 

Edited October 12 by Hopeful Demon

[gregdemon 624]

9 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

It is highly problematic if two of your highest paid players are only gearing up because they are locked in long term and can't get a suitable trade happening. You can spin it but it is not a great outcome for the MFC. They may turn it around and fall back in love with the club but chances are it is more destabilising than not.

yes I thank clarrie for the premiership but if he really wants out  and I mean if       ..  get a trade done      I hope he is happy to stay and goes on to get back to form..  why do I have a feeling come wed 7 30 pm he may be gone. Hope not

[Kent 2,905]

2 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

All this source nonsense reminds of an episode a few years ago when I used to attend training regularly.

I discussed with the coaches, who were a bit sick of some of the interesting posts on here, and like myself looking for a bit of amusement so I posted something in a training report which was complete [censored] about a player.

The next day there it was being reported by a so called journalist word for word.

 

So clever!

[daisycutter 29,596]

34 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

It is highly problematic if two of your highest paid players are only gearing up because they are locked in long term and can't get a suitable trade happening. You can spin it but it is not a great outcome for the MFC. They may turn it around and fall back in love with the club but chances are it is more destabilising than not.

you're such a bundle of joy, dr.g

[Dr. Gonzo 24,121]

Just now, daisycutter said:

you're such a bundle of joy, dr.g

I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

[daisycutter 29,596]

Just now, Dr. Gonzo said:

I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

we all live in hope ... else we'd not be demon fans

[Mel Bourne 4,514]

1 hour ago, Bowserpower said:

Some of these responses to a perfectly reasonable take are baffling considering there have been so many worse meltdown comments this week.

I understand that people love a certain member of the cheersquad and it hurts their feelings when they read these things about them but it's not right to parade around this position of power and strength and then spread stuff around. I'm pretty sure there are rules here against it.

Look, I don’t want to hammer you about this….

But regarding said poster (and any others who may fall into a similar category), I get that you might not consider their input as useful or relevant to your needs, but calling people who devote their time and put words into actions for the club we all support here “losers” seems unnecessarily harsh.

I’ll just leave it at that  

 

[roy11 3,823]

If clarry does to well bring in a talented kid and maybe a depth signing but wouldn’t be able to properly replace him for a year. Less than ideal, so imagine he stays. But anything can happen, just need to get through these next few days

[layzie 33,724]

2 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

All this source nonsense reminds of an episode a few years ago when I used to attend training regularly.

I discussed with the coaches, who were a bit sick of some of the interesting posts on here, and like myself looking for a bit of amusement so I posted something in a training report which was complete [censored] about a player.

The next day there it was being reported by a so called journalist word for word.

 

The coaches discuss Demonland posts? As if they care about a lowly message board?

If they don't care about the media then surely they don't  care about us nutcases 

[BLWNBA 923]

4 hours ago, mo64 said:

Is it only unreadable because the rumours are seen as negative towards the MFC? Are you ok with people posting that we are still actively trying to recruit Wade Derksen, even though Jason McCartney has publicly shut down any move?

Whilst the powers that be at the MFC have shut down Oliver being traded, I've no doubt that Oliver's management are still in discussion with the Cats to get a reasonable trade proposal on the table. And I'm sure that's where PF's rumour is coming from. If it doesn't eventuate, it doesn't mean that his rumour was incorrect.

That’s the farcical thing. The very posters that will uncritically claim that all ‘anti’ (sic) MFC reporting is ‘BS’, are the very ones that will never be critical of ‘complementary’ reporting. You cannot credibly claim media is ‘BS’ when it doesn’t suit agenda. Still, those certain individuals will continue to act in this way. It’s nauseating. 

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17 minutes ago, roy11 said:

If clarry does to well bring in a talented kid and maybe a depth signing but wouldn’t be able to properly replace him for a year. Less than ideal, so imagine he stays. But anything can happen, just need to get through these next few days

We will literally never be able to replace the 2021-22 Clayton. We have to weigh up whether putting up with this circus is worth a chance at him getting back to this. Or cut our losses, and move on. 

[BLWNBA 923]

1 hour ago, Hopeful Demon said:

Are you really this thin skinned? Every time someone expresses dissatisfaction with the club's decisions you just resort to cheap personal attacks. 

Yet they’re happy to throw out terms like ‘bullying’ and ‘harass’ when you have some sort of opposing discourse. 

[layzie 33,724]

2 hours ago, The heart beats true said:

For those of you who get annoyed by posters on here, but still want to contribute, I developed a coping mechanism a few years back that helps keep it all fun.

I imagine certain posters as fictional characters. One is George Costanza, another is Eeyore from the Winnie the Pooh books, and another is Dwight from the Office. Then when I read their posts it makes me laugh, and helps me remember they are just people.

Whatever you need to do to stick around I reckon. This place needs all the opinions, but it’s the most fun when nobody takes it too seriously.

I do the same but I just imagine there is excrement on their head.

[Bowserpower 141]

3 hours ago, von said:

You’re like Alistair lynch in the 2004 grand final

You're like heeney in this years grand final