On 11/10/2024 at 02:19, FreedFromDesire said:

I think a lot of people have stopped at the headline and not listened to the full discussion. To be fair, that's a bad habit in the media in terms of sensationalising headlines to the point of dishonesty.

Listening to the full context of the segment, at least to me, it comes across as a more figurative sentence rather than a literal description. It's quite an off hand comment in the discussion. In my view, it's speaking more to Oliver mentally checking out from the Demons, as opposed to literally cleaning his locker out.

I'm guilty of that. But even as a figurative statement it's quite shocking. 

In the space of five or six weeks, we've gone from Goodwin saying he's never seen a player more determined to return to his very best at the club to people reporting Oliver has no interest in being at Melbourne. 

  On 11/10/2024 at 02:16, Macca said:

Just don't take the media seriously then.  Ignore them if it's going to bother you

You'll never beat them

But there are some truths and lies and embellishment coming from the media

How do you sort that out?  A nose for BS?  That can help but it's tricky

Take the news that Clarrie might take a pay cut ... my immediate thought was that if he definitely wants out, then that could be true

But who wants to give up hundreds of 1000's per season?

Then there's Joe Daniher who has just turned his back on $1Million

So you never know

 

 

I don't take them seriously.  Please point where I have treated the media with anything but contempt.  Problem is the world is full of gullible nutbags who take the media at face value.  

  On 11/10/2024 at 02:19, FreedFromDesire said:

I think a lot of people have stopped at the headline and not listened to the full discussion. To be fair, that's a bad habit in the media in terms of sensationalising headlines to the point of dishonesty.

Listening to the full context of the segment, at least to me, it comes across as a more figurative sentence rather than a literal description. It's quite an off hand comment in the discussion. In my view, it's speaking more to Oliver mentally checking out from the Demons, as opposed to literally cleaning his locker out.

Respectfully disagree. 
From what I gather, we are talking about 3AW and Matthew Lloyd potentially referring to a comment made by Sam McClure.  There is nothing nuanced, figurative or creative at play here is there? 

  On 11/10/2024 at 02:19, FreedFromDesire said:

I think a lot of people have stopped at the headline and not listened to the full discussion. To be fair, that's a bad habit in the media in terms of sensationalising headlines to the point of dishonesty.

Listening to the full context of the segment, at least to me, it comes across as a more figurative sentence rather than a literal description. It's quite an off hand comment in the discussion. In my view, it's speaking more to Oliver mentally checking out from the Demons, as opposed to literally cleaning his locker out.

Also hell of a commute from Rich River to Shepparton, which is where Sam Manure says he is.

  On 10/10/2024 at 22:31, Dr. Gonzo said:

He's right, Pert's position is becoming untenable

Yeah, if you say it enough…

Lloyd? I mean seriously? Lloyd?

 
Wasn't he the one that destabilised Essendon to bring back his mate Hird?

That guy is a moron. He has more blood on his hands, and more bad shots at the dart board, than anyone else I can think of.

I wouldn't trust him if he told me the sun was coming up tomorrow.

Rant over on Lloyd, but maybe I missed something... why are some of the media saying Pert is now untenable. I don't want HS or Age stories regurgitated to me, more if someone with a bit of inside idea can explain things.

 

 

  On 11/10/2024 at 02:27, Katrina Dee Fan said:

Also hell of a commute from Rich River to Shepparton, which is where Sam Manure says he is.

I think that is potentially a figurative statement of him being in Shepparton.  

  On 11/10/2024 at 02:27, rpfc said:

Yeah, if you say it enough…

Dr Gonzo always says it. I think he is in the same group as Hawk the Demon and Dr Don Duffy - the Lawrence group.

Some Clarrification

 

  On 11/10/2024 at 02:40, Demonland said:

Some Clarrification

 

yeah.... I saw what you did there ;) how long have you been hanging on waiting to use clarrification huh? 🤔

I wonder if the “leaker” is actually a Demonlander attempting to keep the trade threads interesting.

The fact Clarry's mum is now jumping on to de-value articles makes me feel a lot better about where the real story is and that it is mostly a Media beat up.

  On 11/10/2024 at 02:32, Ollie fan said:

Dr Gonzo always says it. I think he is in the same group as Hawk the Demon and Dr Don Duffy - the Lawrence group.

Flattery will get you…somewhere!

  On 11/10/2024 at 02:44, Ouch! said:

yeah.... I saw what you did there ;) how long have you been hanging on waiting to use clarrification huh? 🤔

Just thought of it but am working on one for Trac next trade period. 

  On 11/10/2024 at 02:25, Katrina Dee Fan said:

I don't take them seriously.  Please point where I have treated the media with anything but contempt.  Problem is the world is full of gullible nutbags who take the media at face value.  

Just ignore as they are not really hurting the FD or the players

In fact, galvanising and using the 'us against them' is still quite relevant in sports

e.g. Port using Ginnivans comments to fire the team up ...  That stuff still works 

I agree with you with regards to those who believe all the media ... but it's any excuse to get stuck into their own club for those types

But further to that those same types are really bad losers and are bitter and twisted about the club not winning the flag in the last 3 years

There's at least 10 people on this site who think that way ... and they are very loud about it too

But again, best to ignore

So it's not necessarily the media, it's those with an agenda who use the media tripe to their advantage

They'll often come out with "Where have they been wrong?"  

Of course, the media are wrong constantly and we should start a thread about all their idiotic big statements they make

Robbo, Caro, Hutchy, Morris, Eddie etc mostly talk rot

  On 11/10/2024 at 02:27, Katrina Dee Fan said:

Also hell of a commute from Rich River to Shepparton, which is where Sam Manure says he is.

  On 11/10/2024 at 02:28, Ouch! said:

I think that is potentially a figurative statement of him being in Shepparton.  

He heads back home to Echuca every off season for a bit.  I was lucky enough to have a quick kick with him as he was running laps around Vic Park (Echuca's home ground) last off season.

Other than playing some junior footy in Mooroopna to get into the Bushrangers, I doubt he has many other reasons to be heading to Shepparton.

I've had a bit to do with him and think he's a ripper of a lad.  Sadly, he'll never have the polish of a Brayshaw, will to be individually the GOAT like Trac or grow a social media/business empire like Gawn.

He's just a simple country lad from hard working parents with sadly (sorry Clayton), probably not a great deal going on in his scone.

He desperately needs good role models around him to get the best out of him as without these I do worry about what will happen to him career wise.

  On 11/10/2024 at 02:48, Demonland said:

Just thought of it but am working on one for Trac next trade period. 

May I suggest Backtraccing  ;)  I suspect it will work.

 

  On 11/10/2024 at 02:48, Demonland said:

Just thought of it but am working on one for Trac next trade period. 

"Petracca to Pies gaining some TRACCtion"?

  On 10/10/2024 at 23:36, daisycutter said:

definitely not his call, whether one thinks he's right or not

on top of this, this report is on the afl official web site and barrett is employed and writing for the afl

so what is the afl's responsibility in this? if i was the club i would be making a strong complaint to the afl

I heard Barrett on trade radio a couple of days ago saying he knows for a fact that the AFL are very concerned about how MFC is being run. Think what he wrote is him being a mouthpiece for AFL. 

 

  On 11/10/2024 at 02:58, Colm said:

I heard Barrett on trade radio a couple of days ago saying he knows for a fact that the AFL are very concerned about how MFC is being run. Think what he wrote is him being a mouthpiece for AFL. 

It's the AFL's fault for forcing Pert on us.

My view on the Oliver situation is that we, the MFC management, have decided to take off the mollycoddling gloves and call him out on the behaviors that continue and are problematic. That part of this process is to let him know if he doesn’t like it, he can look elsewhere and if he can get paid the same and the MFC are fairly compensated (picks) then we’d be open to parting. But not at our expense (I.e. we’re not paying his salary elsewhere nor accepting unders). 
The point being forcing Clarry to realise how good he has it at MFC and to light a fire under him to take more responsibility for his behaviour. 
Pert has the role of bad cop in this, others I’m sure are playing the good cop role. 
it’s an internal player behavior issue that has, unfortunately, spilled into the public space. Which may be a good thing if it gets Clarry back focused on footy, and more mature in his interactions with club and players… 

just speculation :)

Edited October 11, 2024Oct 11 by PaulRB

  On 11/10/2024 at 02:58, dazzledavey36 said:

 

Nah, this is all media BS. Tom Morris is constantly notoriously way off. 

  On 11/10/2024 at 02:49, Macca said:

 

Of course, the media are wrong constantly and we should start a thread about all their idiotic big statements they make

Robbo, Caro, Hutchy, Morris, Eddie etc mostly talk rot

As much as I live, breathe and eat football, 600 hours a day to call them on their garbage is a bridge to far.

I'm only in my early 50's, but geez I remember back in the day when football reporting involved talking about tactics and gamestyle, not who has a new girlfriend, or who was spotted at [insert latest hotspot here] club.

Sure sometimes there is smoke, but mostly it's someone seeing a campfire and calling it a bushfire. And if they are wrong (as they often are) they just ignore it and move onto the next gossip column story.

I'm sure a million dollar plus a year contract eases the pain, but it has to be draining to be in the news being talked about by people that only have a 1/10th idea of the real story.