2 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

In that same segment Edmund said that we’re not necessarily giving up on Houston and that we’d consider trading two first rounders…

This is accurate.

I don’t think we’ll get him but we are loitering. 

1 minute ago, JJJ said:

This is accurate.

I don’t think we’ll get him but we are loitering. 

Because he's not interested in coming to us, or because it's unlikely we will meet Port's demands in a trade?

I wonder how much Port will soften now that he's all but requested a trade. 

They would think we would finish below Carlton next year, making our F1 more appealing, and if we can get another 1st rounder via Brisbane or by packaging up the pick we get for ANB, we might be getting closer to the mark.

Edited September 30, 20241 yr by Jaded No More

Over a bbq beer on Saturday,  it was suggested to me that perhaps the only way Houston gets to MFC is 

Houston and Power future pick say 2025 future 2nd round 

Sparrow and MFC 2025 future 1st round. 

My reply … Sparrow not going anywhere so it’s back to the think tank 

8 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Because he's not interested in coming to us, or because it's unlikely we will meet Port's demands in a trade?

I wonder how much Port will soften now that he's all but requested a trade. 

They would think we would finish below Carlton next year, making our F1 more appealing, and if we can get another 1st rounder via Brisbane or by packaging up the pick we get for ANB, we might be getting closer to the mark.

I think we did lose a bit of credibility with Houston both on and off the field. The delay due to the Petracca rubbish hurt us as this deal should have a bow on it already. (Subject to us finding 2 1st round picks)

When his management fielded additional offers from other clubs they went pretty hard and have offered more money and ‘better finals prospects’. Carlton is now his preferred destination. 

The caveat is, we have cap space and draft collateral, where Carlton currently does not. We are staying in conversations as a result. Carlton need to potentially shed more salary and find picks.

19 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

They would think we would finish below Carlton next year, making our F1 more appealing, and if we can get another 1st rounder via Brisbane or by packaging up the pick we get for ANB, we might be getting closer to the mark.

Ok. we keep 5 no matter what … but try to get Lions 1st pick (live “18”) by packaging up 25 (from Crows) and 37 and 61.  Offer our MFC future 1st and this pick “18” to Port for Houston.  That’s better than Blues likely offer. 

 

2 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Over a bbq beer on Saturday,  it was suggested to me that perhaps the only way Houston gets to MFC is 

Houston and Power future pick say 2025 future 2nd round 

Sparrow and MFC 2025 future 1st round. 

My reply … Sparrow not going anywhere so it’s back to the think tank 

That's a ridiculously lopsided trade in our favour. If we could do Houston for a future and Sparrow I would 100% pull the trigger.

12 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

That's a ridiculously lopsided trade in our favour. If we could do Houston for a future and Sparrow I would 100% pull the trigger.

Absolutely

3 hours ago, JJJ said:

This is accurate.

I don’t think we’ll get him but we are loitering. 

Hopefully we are loitering purely to push the price higher for Carlton 

Really hope we can land him somehow. Obviously the ideal scenario would have us retain pick 5 but I wouldn't mind us splitting that pick to get the trade capital and still retain a mid first round selection.

Best scenario: Future 1st and Brisbane's pick 18 (by trading 25, 45, 50)

Alternative: split 5 for Richmond's 9, 13 (via baker) and future 2nd.

Trade 13 and pick 18 (via Brisbane trade above).

Get Houston, 9 and Richmonds future 2nd. Retain future 1st.

44 minutes ago, Sydee said:

Hopefully we are loitering purely to push the price higher for Carlton 

That’s not a horrible outcome I agree on that.

I think Houston is a gun but I am not sure his play off half back is as big a requirement as some class in the midfield.

 

@Nascent I like best scenario to get Houston (if he’s still interested in being in red and blue next yr)

38 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

So he would rather North than us? Stuff him then

1 hour ago, Jaded No More said:

So he would rather North than us? Stuff him then

Maybe he’s just doing what we expect of Melbourne players who want to go back to their home state and saying he’ll go to any Vic club that can satisfy Port…?

Houston situation is setting up to be embarrassing. Two first rounders is absurd.

I actually think we’ll land him with our F1 and some swaps to look complicated. Saves face for Port pretending that it could be top 5 pick next year and sends Houston to Vic.

Cal Twomey confirmed that it was Houston that rejected us rather than us rejecting him on the theory that our first round draft pick became far better than expected.

Said he was all but a Demon mid season, and had agreed to sign with the MFC until we imploded.

Well done Dees 👍 

12 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Cal Twomey confirmed that it was Houston that rejected us rather than us rejecting him on the theory that our first round draft pick became far better than expected.

Said he was all but a Demon mid season, and had agreed to sign with the MFC until we imploded.

Well done Dees 👍 

Obviously likes the easy path

11 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Cal Twomey confirmed that it was Houston that rejected us rather than us rejecting him on the theory that our first round draft pick became far better than expected.

Said he was all but a Demon mid season, and had agreed to sign with the MFC until we imploded.

Well done Dees 👍 

Nah we just changed our mind and wanted to go to the draft according to some on here 😂

17 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

Maybe he’s just doing what we expect of Melbourne players who want to go back to their home state and saying he’ll go to any Vic club that can satisfy Port…?

Just maximising his price an trade value with the convenient and cashed up norf 

Edited October 1, 20241 yr by Demons1858

We dropped the bag on this one

From reports we had him locked in mid-way through the season until Trac comes out and makes the FC look like absolute tools 

43 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Cal Twomey confirmed that it was Houston that rejected us rather than us rejecting him on the theory that our first round draft pick became far better than expected.

Said he was all but a Demon mid season, and had agreed to sign with the MFC until we imploded.

Well done Dees 👍 

Petracca has a lot to answer for. And i reckon he has a lot to do with why Clarry might leave.

9 minutes ago, SthSea22 said:

We dropped the bag on this one

From reports we had him locked in mid-way through the season until Trac comes out and makes the FC look like absolute tools 

It's not unsalvageable though. 5 minutes with Maxy and I'm sure DH would have a better understanding of everything.

Why do stupid people continue to trust the Media Football soothsayers after Trac???

33 minutes ago, Flowergirl said:

Petracca has a lot to answer for. And i reckon he has a lot to do with why Clarry might leave.

I agree 

IF this was partly of CPs doing…well I am not sure we want him around