Jump to content

Featured Replies

2 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Surely they watched Fullerton in QLD to see if he could ruck - may be not. A few red faces I would think.

I don't think they recruited him as a ruck, more a fwd/ruck and and hopefully a back up.  I have a feeling he hasn't developed the way they would have hoped, his handful of games for Bris he looked OK without setting the world on fire.

Could be on our development or his work ethic, who knows

 
12 minutes ago, Travy14 said:

He is 12th on the VFL list for hitouts and only 3 above him aren't on an AFL list or ex AFL players.  He would have provided a contest in the ruck.  Petty did not.

 

 

32 minutes ago, Sydee said:

He doesn’t look like he has a fitness base that would allow him to play AFL atm 

I think this is one of the issues with Will...

...and against good VFL ruckmen he has struggled to provide a consistent contest.

You can blame selection as much as you like, but when the cupboards bare...

19 hours ago, Neil Crompton said:

It’s very interesting Stretch because Goody has always protected each and every player during his press conferences. This is the first time I can remember him doing something like this. He usually takes one for the team, but not this time. 

The closest to this I can remember was a comment goody made in a presser in Weid's last year saying something to the effect that he needed to realise it was big boys footy. I read his fullarton comment as a frustration with our lack of a ready ruck backup on our list.

 

If in the words of our coach, Fullerton couldnt win a ruck contest, WHY draft him?  We could have kept a Harmes or Jordan on the list and been no worse off in the ruck as the bloke we drafted to be a back up for Max cant ruck

A real simple question . why draft him, didnt we look at his previous games at bris.

Also as I recall we gave him two years, for a ruckman who cant ruck.

1 hour ago, rjay said:

 

I think this is one of the issues with Will...

...and against good VFL ruckmen he has struggled to provide a consistent contest.

You can blame selection as much as you like, but when the cupboards bare...

I don’t think his fitness is a problem anymore. He seems to be moving much better this year and the injury issues are largely behind him. He dominated the SA u18 comp as a 15-16 year old but then had 2 1/2 years of osteitis and back issues.

I think he also won the highest jump at the combine (with Weddle). But just leaping in the ruck doesn’t work when they can just push you away - it’s all about strength at the moment. Until they change the rules again. 


1 hour ago, ex52k2 said:

If in the words of our coach, Fullerton couldnt win a ruck contest, WHY draft him?  We could have kept a Harmes or Jordan on the list and been no worse off in the ruck as the bloke we drafted to be a back up for Max cant ruck

A real simple question . why draft him, didnt we look at his previous games at bris.

Also as I recall we gave him two years, for a ruckman who cant ruck.

Surely Goodwin can't do everything by myself?

He needs to have some trust in others around him that they can do their due diligence?

Like the players lol

Do we have another Brodie Grundy Fiasco on our hands will Fullarton WILL he  request a trade and succeed elsewhere both  Goodwin and  Griffith have made terrible errors of Judgement with the past and I may add Clarrie,s no fan of either that is common knowledge amongst his friends hence rumours of him departing

Too many mistakes have been made by both hopefully the FD will see this and act accordingly.

 

 

 

 

 
7 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Ahhhh Schwarz, maybe help us trade JVR for King hey? I don’t think drinking our bath water is the issue atm. The lack of senior talent on the list is the issue.

 

I loved David Schwarz as a player, and met him a few years ago and he seemed like a very nice bloke.

 

BUT he has become a bit bitter and twisted, and far too critical.


1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Well Said Ox….

OK, so who was this specialist ruckman we should have selected 'SWYL'???

1 hour ago, Ollie fan said:

I loved David Schwarz as a player, and met him a few years ago and he seemed like a very nice bloke.

 

BUT he has become a bit bitter and twisted, and far too critical.

Same but sometimes he should just keep his mouth shut. Has become rent a quote.

26 minutes ago, rjay said:

OK, so who was this specialist ruckman we should have selected 'SWYL'???

I wouldn’t have played Petty. He has already shown he is not a Ruckman, he has also had multiple foot injuries 

So I would have played Fullarton and just told him to crack in. 
 

I agreed with David’s comments. It was pure arrogance to think we could go in against Jackson and Darcy with Petty

I think we all know which particular game he's referring to.

“Every supporter, every person who knows football pretty well knows that in the last year and a half there have been decisions made that have cost Melbourne games, cost Melbourne ladder positions and there’s a time coming where if these decisions keep coming, Simon Goodwin won’t be in his position.”

 


13 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

So I would have played Fullarton and just told him to crack in. 

If you've seen Fullarton at Casey then you would know that wasn't going to happen.

Better to at least have Petty marking ability around the ground...

13 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I think we all know which particular game he's referring to.

“Every supporter, every person who knows football pretty well knows that in the last year and a half there have been decisions made that have cost Melbourne games, cost Melbourne ladder positions and there’s a time coming where if these decisions keep coming, Simon Goodwin won’t be in his position.”

 

You never know why decisions are made unless you're in the room...we are all guessing and as I've said before I would have selected Grundy like most of us but who knows the extenuating circumstances.

14 minutes ago, rjay said:

You never know why decisions are made unless you're in the room...we are all guessing and as I've said before I would have selected Grundy like most of us but who knows the extenuating circumstances.

This is true but Goody-bashers be Goody-bashing regardless. When the lights went out at the Gabba last season that was Goody’s fault too.

1 hour ago, rjay said:

If you've seen Fullarton at Casey then you would know that wasn't going to happen.

Better to at least have Petty marking ability around the ground...

No i disagree. Petty is not a Ruckman, who has a history of foot injuries. 
i am sure Fullarton could also take a few marks around the ground. 
he has played 19 games, that’s almost a Season worth. 
It was a complete balls up that backfired completely 

Freo have beaten us by 142 points this year….

 

Who was the other ruck up at Sydney before he retired at the end of the Season?

Were we sounded out first to pick up some of Grundy's tab?


1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

No i disagree. Petty is not a Ruckman, who has a history of foot injuries. 
i am sure Fullarton could also take a few marks around the ground. 
he has played 19 games, that’s almost a Season worth. 
It was a complete balls up that backfired completely 

Freo have beaten us by 142 points this year….

 

Neither is Fullarton..

2 minutes ago, rjay said:

Neither is Fullarton..

Maybe not, but Petty is worth more and is injury prone 

On 22/07/2024 at 15:13, whatwhat say what said:

he was absolutely seething in the post-match press conference i thought

normally he defends the players; he really didn't this time around

I thought he looked livid on the bench in the first half.

Some of the younger players I know were scared of going back into the club after the West Coast performance. 

I reckon the players have had a few rockets this season.

We need our onfield leaders to stand up. Missing Gus, Max and Trac has meant it's fallen all on Viney, May and Lever.

Edited by Binmans PA

 
On 14/07/2024 at 00:29, monoccular said:

Something clicked tonight after a disturbing start.

But we simple cannot afford to sacrifice JVR's continuing development as a key forward to be dissipated by him having to take first ruck duties.  We are down a key forward as a result.

Unless FullArton, Verrall or 😮 even Schache stand up and demand selection JVR risks injury and form decline as a vital tall forward, which would be disastrous for our club going forward.  He is our future as a KPF, with limited Ruch duties, NOT as a first ruck.

We must further develop an ability (all game) to run in waves, each side of the centreline end-to-end, with overlaps and creating both carriage and receiving options going forward, with those forwards leading to space, artfully, both sides. That is what cruelled us against against Freo, 'sharing the run' and 'receive'. When we did overlap - too infrequently - we we killing them, nearly each time. Only luck (for Freo) occasionally interceded. Coaching 101.

 

8 hours ago, rjay said:

If you've seen Fullarton at Casey then you would know that wasn't going to happen.

Better to at least have Petty marking ability around the ground...

Around ground marking is important but that wasn't Petty's main role on the day.

He started off as the 1st ruck and failed miserably.   We then had to throw JVR in in the hope he might offer more resistance.  That didn't work either.

Same happened the week before with JVR coming in to replace Petty early after Petty got wacked in the first Q but luckily the whole day become a contested shiite fest where we were able to wrestle the game back on our terms at ground level with the rain largely making much of any attempted ruck work / craft by Draper ineffectual.

Edited by Demon Dynasty


Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

Featured Content

  • NON-MFC: Round 13

    Follow all the action from every Round 13 clash excluding the Dees as the 2025 AFL Premiership Season rolls on. With Melbourne playing in the final match of the round on King's Birthday, all eyes turn to the rest of the competition. Who are you tipping to win? And more importantly, which results best serve the Demons’ finals aspirations? Join the discussion and keep track of the matches that could shape the ladder and impact our run to September.

      • Thanks
    • 25 replies
  • PREVIEW: Collingwood

    Having convincingly defeated last year’s premier and decisively outplayed the runner-up with 8.2 in the final quarter, nothing epitomized the Melbourne Football Club’s performance more than its 1.12 final half, particularly the eight consecutive behinds in the last term, against a struggling St Kilda team in the midst of a dismal losing streak. Just when stability and consistency were anticipated within the Demon ranks, they delivered a quintessential performance marked by instability and ill-conceived decisions, with the most striking aspect being their inaccuracy in kicking for goal, which suggested a lack of preparation (instead of sleeping in their hotel in Alice, were they having a night on the turps) rather than a well-rested team. Let’s face it - this kicking disease that makes them look like raw amateurs is becoming a millstone around the team’s neck.

      • Thanks
    • 1 reply
  • CASEY: Sydney

    The Casey Demons were always expected to emerge victorious in their matchup against the lowly-ranked Sydney Swans at picturesque Tramway Oval, situated in the shadows of the SCG in Moore Park. They dominated the proceedings in the opening two and a half quarters of the game but had little to show for it. This was primarily due to their own sloppy errors in a low-standard game that produced a number of crowded mauls reminiscent of the rugby game popular in old Sydney Town. However, when the Swans tired, as teams often do when they turn games into ugly defensive contests, Casey lifted the standard of its own play and … it was off to the races. Not to nearby Randwick but to a different race with an objective of piling on goal after goal on the way to a mammoth victory. At the 25-minute mark of the third quarter, the Demons held a slender 14-point lead over the Swans, who are ahead on the ladder of only the previous week's opposition, the ailing Bullants. Forty minutes later, they had more than fully compensated for the sloppiness of their earlier play with a decisive 94-point victory, that culminated in a rousing finish which yielded thirteen unanswered goals. Kicks hit their targets, the ball found itself going through the middle and every player made a contribution.

      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 1 reply
  • REPORT: St. Kilda

    Hands up if you thought, like me, at half-time in yesterday’s game at TIO Traeger Park, Alice Springs that Melbourne’s disposal around the ground and, in particular, its kicking inaccuracy in front of the goals couldn’t get any worse. Well, it did. And what’s even more damning for the Melbourne Football Club is that the game against St Kilda and its resurgence from the bottomless pit of its miserable start to the season wasn’t just lost through poor conversion for goal but rather in the 15 minutes when the entire team went into a slumber and was mugged by the out-of-form Saints. Their six goals two behinds (one goal less than the Demons managed for the whole game) weaved a path of destruction from which they were unable to recover. Ross Lyon’s astute use of pressure to contain the situation once they had asserted their grip on the game, and Melbourne’s self-destructive wastefulness, assured that outcome. The old adage about the insanity of repeatedly doing something and expecting a different result, was out there. Two years ago, the score line in Melbourne’s loss to the Giants at this same ground was 5 goals 15 behinds - a ratio of one goal per four scoring shots - was perfectly replicated with yesterday’s 7 goals 21 behinds. 
    This has been going on for a while and opens up a number of questions. I’ll put forward a few that come to mind from this performance. The obvious first question is whether the club can find a suitable coach to instruct players on proper kicking techniques or is this a skill that can no longer be developed at this stage of the development of our playing group? Another concern is the team's ability to counter an opponent's dominance during a run on as exemplified by the Saints in the first quarter. Did the Demons underestimate their opponents, considering St Kilda's goals during this period were scored by relatively unknown forwards? Furthermore, given the modest attendance of 6,721 at TIO Traeger Park and the team's poor past performances at this venue, is it prudent to prioritize financial gain over potentially sacrificing valuable premiership points by relinquishing home ground advantage, notwithstanding the cultural significance of the team's connection to the Red Centre? 

      • Thanks
    • 4 replies
  • PREGAME: Collingwood

    After a disappointing loss in Alice Springs the Demons return to the MCG to take on the Magpies in the annual King's Birthday Big Freeze for MND game. Who comes in and who goes out?

      • Thanks
    • 232 replies
  • PODCAST: St. Kilda

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 2nd June @ 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we have a chat with former Demon ruckman Jeff White about his YouTube channel First Use where he dissects ruck setups and contests. We'll then discuss the Dees disappointing loss to the Saints in Alice Springs.
    Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show.
    Listen LIVE: https://demonland.com/

      • Thanks
    • 47 replies