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I'm still dark on us missing out on the big Mac Attack as I think this kid is a star of the future.

For those to cheap to purchase a herald sun subscription (couldn't stand paying for anything that Robbo potentially writes) what does it have to say?Ā Ā 

Bit of a translation available?

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    1 minute ago, Deeko2 said:

    I'm still dark on us missing out on the big Mac Attack as I think this kid is a star of the future.

    For those to cheap to purchase a herald sun subscription (couldn't stand paying for anything that Robbo potentially writes) what does it have to say?Ā Ā 

    Bit of a translation available?

    Ugg Ugg Meh Ugg UggĀ 

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    Here is a summary for those who canā€™t get through the firewall:

    Melbourne has been "dudded" by AFL rule changes twice in recent years.

    First, the Next Generation Academy (NGA) rules were changed in 2020, preventing Melbourne from drafting Mac Andrew in 2021. The club had developed Andrew from age 13, but Gold Coast drafted him at No.5.
    It was Melbourne who moulded him into an AFL prospect, but the league pulled the rug from underneath the Demons, 12 months out from when they expected to draft him.

    Secondly, Melbourne missed out on drafting Harley Reid in 2023 due to limitations on trading future draft picks. The Demons made a strong offer for West Coast's No.1 pick:

    They put forward the most compelling offer ā€“ it trumped North Melbourne's best pitch ā€“ with picks 6, 11, 42 and this year's first-rounder (currently No.10) ā€“ on the table.

    However, they couldn't offer more due to rules at the time. The AFL is now set to allow trading of two years of future picks, which could have changed the outcome if implemented earlier.

    Melbourne recruiter Jason Taylor highly rated Reid:Ā "If you look over the journey, players like Harley Reid are game changers," Taylor said. "We just felt that he's a really high-end talent, we love his character, the way he goes about his football."

    The article suggests Melbourne "definitely missed out on Andrew by one year and probably missed out n Reid by one year.

    Additionally, the AFL is expected to reform the bidding system for father-son and academy prospects:
    No longer will clubs be allowed to match bids with a pile of garbage picks.

    The new system may require clubs to use high-value picks to match bids for top talents, potentially including future first-round picks.

    Lastly, the article mentions potential changes to Melbourne's draft prospects, including father-son Kalani White, who might choose Gold Coast over Melbourne.

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    man everything sucks at the momentĀ 

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    We picked up Windsor, JVR and Tholstrup and have our next two first round picks in hand. I think weā€™ve drafted well enough to come out even.Ā 

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    A pretty ridiculous claim that we "missed out" on Harley Reid due to not being able to trade 2 years of future picks. West Coast weren't budging for what we were reportedly offering, and why would they - Reid is a prodigious talent - as if us also throwing in a pick they couldn't use for 2 years would make a difference.Ā 

    This has all the hallmarks of a writer having a not particularly compelling half an article with the Mac Andrew angle, and padding it out with click-attracting horse**** to fill the column inches quota.

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    16 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

    Here is a summary for those who canā€™t get through the firewall:

    Melbourne has been "dudded" by AFL rule changes twice in recent years.

    First, the Next Generation Academy (NGA) rules were changed in 2020, preventing Melbourne from drafting Mac Andrew in 2021. The club had developed Andrew from age 13, but Gold Coast drafted him at No.5.

    It was Melbourne who moulded him into an AFL prospect, but the league pulled the rug from underneath the Demons, 12 months out from when they expected to draft him.

    Secondly, Melbourne missed out on drafting Harley Reid in 2023 due to limitations on trading future draft picks. The Demons made a strong offer for West Coast's No.1 pick:
    They put forward the most compelling offer ā€“ it trumped North Melbourne's best pitch ā€“ with picks 6, 11, 42 and this year's first-rounder (currently No.10) ā€“ on the table.
    However, they couldn't offer more due to rules at the time. The AFL is now set to allow trading of two years of future picks, which could have changed the outcome if implemented earlier.

    Melbourne recruiter Jason Taylor highly rated Reid:Ā "If you look over the journey, players like Harley Reid are game changers," Taylor said. "We just felt that he's a really high-end talent, we love his character, the way he goes about his football."

    The article suggests Melbourne "definitely missed out on Andrew by one year and probably missed out n Reid by one year.

    Additionally, the AFL is expected to reform the bidding system for father-son and academy prospects:
    No longer will clubs be allowed to match bids with a pile of garbage picks.

    The new system may require clubs to use high-value picks to match bids for top talents, potentially including future first-round picks.

    Lastly, the article mentions potential changes to Melbourne's draft prospects, including father-son Kalani White, who might choose Gold Coast over Melbourne.

    First, the Next Generation Academy (NGA) rules were changed in 2020, preventing Melbourne from drafting Mac Andrew in 2021. The club had developed Andrew from age 13, but Gold Coast drafted him at No.5.

    It was Melbourne who moulded him into an AFL prospect, but the league pulled the rug from underneath the Demons, 12 months out from when they expected to draft him.

    Secondly, Melbourne missed out on drafting Harley Reid in 2023 due to limitations on trading future draft picks. The Demons made a strong offer for West Coast's No.1 pick:

    They put forward the most compelling offer ā€“ it trumped North Melbourne's best pitch ā€“ with picks 6, 11, 42 and this year's first-rounder (currently No.10) ā€“ on the table.

    However, they couldn't offer more due to rules at the time. The AFL is now set to allow trading of two years of future picks, which could have changed the outcome if implemented earlier.

    Melbourne recruiter Jason Taylor highly rated Reid:Ā "If you look over the journey, players like Harley Reid are game changers," Taylor said. "We just felt that he's a really high-end talent, we love his character, the way he goes about his football."

    No surprise there. We always get screwed by the afl no matter what it is.Ā 

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    The Reid one does not bother me as the Eagles held a massive asking price but Mac Andrew is beyond a joke, particularly when the rules allowed JUH to be drafted by the Dogs the previous year.

    The AFL have less integrity than a US election campaign.

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    What made the AFLĀ  NGA decision even more egregious was that we were the only club with a potential first rounder . No one else had one in sight .Saints was next best but a fair margin behind with Mitch Owens who went 33 in the draft.The decision of course was disgustingly retrospective as it restricted our access to a player who had already been in our NGA academy for 4years .I wondered at the time why we copped the change in these circumstances but the club probably couldn't do much.

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    45 minutes ago, gs77 said:

    A pretty ridiculous claim that we "missed out" on Harley Reid due to not being able to trade 2 years of future picks. West Coast weren't budging for what we were reportedly offering, and why would they - Reid is a prodigious talent - as if us also throwing in a pick they couldn't use for 2 years would make a difference.Ā 

    This has all the hallmarks of a writer having a not particularly compelling half an article with the Mac Andrew angle, and padding it out with click-attracting horse**** to fill the column inches quota.

    West Coast would have been crazy not to accept our trade offer + 2 more first round picks. They definitely would have accepted if it included 2025s picks.

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    So we got JVR in lieu of Andrew which is fine by me - we'realready trying to turn key backs into forwards. And we avoided paying Windsor, Kolt, this year's and next year's firsts for Reid, yeah he's good but not that good.Ā Ā 

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    We also got dudded on the Jarman bros. Some draft rule change at the time , they ended up at Hawthorn .

    If we don't shoot ourselves in the foot, the AFDL will do it to us anyway.

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    Am I right in suggesting that had we been permitted to offer more for Reid, so too could have North or other clubs also offered more?

    It's very narrow to look at one club only.

    Mac Andrew is the one we were dudded on. The AFL should not have changed the rule so quicklyĀ after clubs were encouraged by the AFL for years to develop players under the premise that they would then have first dibs. That's almost a breach of contract, it's like putting something on laybuy and then being told it will be sold to another buyer.

    If Kalani has indicated he wants to be a Dee, we need to lobby hard so that we don't get stiffed again.

    This is where Pert and Roffey need to work their magicĀ 

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    32 minutes ago, COOLX said:

    We also got dudded on the Jarman bros. Some draft rule change at the time , they ended up at Hawthorn .

    If we don't shoot ourselves in the foot, the AFDL will do it to us anyway.

    You've got at least four things incorrect in that short post.Ā  Impressive effort, that.

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    6 hours ago, Demonstone said:

    You've got at least four things incorrect in that short post.Ā  Impressive effort, that.

    ā€¦ and thereā€™s only three sentences! šŸ˜ƒ

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