After watching yesterday two new players with pace has us back in the hunt, especially someone who can work with Max.

Edited yesterday at 09:191 day by 48 Year Now

32 minutes ago, adonski said:

Sam Butler out of contract with the Hawks may provide some handy half fwd depth

Lives with Harry Sharp and Aidan Johnson as well.

Whispers that Ollie Henry might be put on the trade table by his second club, Geelong. Not sure I'd be all that keen.

He'll probably end up at West Coast in return for pick one plus Harley Reid.

The Grundy trade was worth a crack. We got Hunter, Billings, Fullerton and Schache for nothing and Hunter gave us a year while the rest gave us nothing. McAdam is the disaster a second rounder. Basically Neal-Bullen for a player that played less than 50 games and as usual been injured for the last 2 years on a 3 year contract. AN ABSOLUTE DISASTER LAMB DESERVES THE SACK FOR THAT ONE!

29 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

The Grundy trade was worth a crack. We got Hunter, Billings, Fullerton and Schache for nothing and Hunter gave us a year while the rest gave us nothing. McAdam is the disaster a second rounder. Basically Neal-Bullen for a player that played less than 50 games and as usual been injured for the last 2 years on a 3 year contract. AN ABSOLUTE DISASTER LAMB DESERVES THE SACK FOR THAT ONE!

The sack for 1 mistake?

55 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

The sack for 1 mistake?

He's made more than 1 mistake. He made a major blunder with McAdam.

Contracted until 27 so unlikely but Cooper Simpson can't crack into the Freo team and showed skill and pace when I've watched him. Ex Dandenong Stingray kid.

What's happened to wayde derksen

8 minutes ago, Melonmonster said:

What's happened to wayde derksen

Toe injury. Out for the season

40 minutes ago, Go the Biff said:

Toe injury. Out for the season

Righto , also think gws played him in defence this year .

What about Jasper Scaife . Kpf taken mid year by hawthorn...

12 hours ago, Vineytime said:

Windhager from StKilda reported as looking at moving clubs…. Has played well against MFC this year and could be an option to go through the midfield or play a lockdown defender role.

We should be seriously targeting if the opportunity is there. Has the right balance of defensive intent and ability to free up and be a hard two way running connecting mid we need.

Mcreery and Windhager would be ones I would chase.....Something would have to give from our end, but it is doable if we get nearly everything right around draft time.

Two blokes who’s game is based on relentless effort, would be good to get some more of that drive into the side.

12 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

The Grundy trade was worth a crack. We got Hunter, Billings, Fullerton and Schache for nothing and Hunter gave us a year while the rest gave us nothing. McAdam is the disaster a second rounder. Basically Neal-Bullen for a player that played less than 50 games and as usual been injured for the last 2 years on a 3 year contract. AN ABSOLUTE DISASTER LAMB DESERVES THE SACK FOR THAT ONE!

You missed the bit where we were expecting to continue our residence at the top end of the ladder which would have made the future pick we gave back for him worth a lot less than it ended up being. While I was never a fan of the mcadam trade, that's a distortion of the facts. We do seem to have a history of trading in players who play a rare blinder against us that season.

Cal Wilkie unhappy at Saints. Would be a great get, in the Steven May category. I would move on Lever and bring him across in a heartbeat!

Some ordinary names being thrown up.

And ones that I highly doubt we'll be going after.

I think we're past the stop-gap players at this point and some bigger pieces need to be shifted for us to really hit back hard.

I'm talking shifting two of Oliver, Lever, Trac, Langdon, Salem, May.

I know the one-eyed 'landers will stomp their feet. Just as they have for the impending Buckley arrival. Just as they did post Melksham arrival, Watts being moved on etc etc. Same ones who will no doubt vomit emoji this post.

A quick look at the coaches votes across our games lays it all out. You simply can't keep carrying that amount of consistently underperforming senior players and expect to be able to evolve and keep up with the rest of the comp.

For me, I'd be putting up Salem, Oliver, Langdon and Lever and seeing who bites. Give us some cap relief from Oliver and move on someone who is just so far from it and has contributed to the unrest and agitation you see across the group. Langdon's running role is no longer the cog that it used to be in our impenetrable game-plan. He is now being caught out because of his awful skill level.

Salem is just floating, Lever is surplus to needs and can't get on the park.

Take the picks, take the cap space. Work our way up the draft or perhaps going into next year's draft.

I still think we're a chance for Jackson but obviously some big names need to go for that to eventuate.

We then have picks and ammunition to attack some better quality trades over the next couple of years and with a new coaching group who will have 'pull' for opposition players assessing their options, (unlike Goodwin has had), we'll bounce. Even if next year is a bit rocky.

Edited 11 hours ago11 hr by Howard_Grimes

Wonder if Patrick Voss would be a decent pick for us up forward?

We have no chance with someone like Shannon Neal, although that would be bloody awesome!

13 hours ago, Demonstone said:

Whispers that Ollie Henry might be put on the trade table by his second club, Geelong. Not sure I'd be all that keen.

I've thought about Ollie Henry as a forward option, but he poses a major home sick risk (apparently left Collingwood because his home city of Geelong was too far away)

34 minutes ago, Howard_Grimes said:

Langdon's running role is no longer the cog that it used to be in our impenetrable game-plan. He is now being caught out because of his awful skill level.

I was really disappointed with Langdon's on field attitude early in the game last week. The tackle he missed where the Dogs player simply brushed past him tells me where his mindset was post Goodwin, and his mid week presser wasn't just words.

Plus, the fact that the younger brigade have taken his starting wing role....

Have seriously rated him as a player though.

1 hour ago, SPC said:

Cal Wilkie unhappy at Saints. Would be a great get, in the Steven May category. I would move on Lever and bring him across in a heartbeat!

Perfect replacement for May

I don’t know what the Saints are trying to do with all these insane offers but surely the fallout with the current crop will be immense

Edited 10 hours ago10 hr by BW511

18 minutes ago, GawnOfTheDead said:

Wonder if Patrick Voss would be a decent pick for us up forward?

We have no chance with someone like Shannon Neal, although that would be bloody awesome!

Why the hell would Patrick Voss consider leaving Fremantle???

1 hour ago, Howard_Grimes said:

1 hour ago, Howard_Grimes said:

Some ordinary names being thrown up.

And ones that I highly doubt we'll be going after.

I think we're past the stop-gap players at this point and some bigger pieces need to be shifted for us to really hit back hard.

I'm talking shifting two of Oliver, Lever, Trac, Langdon, Salem, May.

I know the one-eyed 'landers will stomp their feet. Just as they have for the impending Buckley arrival. Just as they did post Melksham arrival, Watts being moved on etc etc. Same ones who will no doubt vomit emoji this post.

A quick look at the coaches votes across our games lays it all out. You simply can't keep carrying that amount of consistently underperforming senior players and expect to be able to evolve and keep up with the rest of the comp.

For me, I'd be putting up Salem, Oliver, Langdon and Lever and seeing who bites. Give us some cap relief from Oliver and move on someone who is just so far from it and has contributed to the unrest and agitation you see across the group. Langdon's running role is no longer the cog that it used to be in our impenetrable game-plan. He is now being caught out because of his awful skill level.

Salem is just floating, Lever is surplus to needs and can't get on the park.

Take the picks, take the cap space. Work our way up the draft or perhaps going into next year's draft.

I still think we're a chance for Jackson but obviously some big names need to go for that to eventuate.

We then have picks and ammunition to attack some better quality trades over the next couple of years and with a new coaching group who will have 'pull' for opposition players assessing their options, (unlike Goodwin has had), we'll bounce. Even if next year is a bit rocky.

we're past the stop-gap players at this point and some bigger pieces need to be shifted for us to really hit back hard.

I'm talking shifting two of Oliver, Lever, T

Lots of teams were keen on Lever. He couldn't wait to get out.
After the Goody sacking, he's very keen to stay

If club could have the last 2 years back, Petracca Petty and Oliver would've been moved on for a kings ransom better than what Richmond had

Enough senior players to ensure we don't bottom out and build a good future

Lindsay Langford Windsor a good start

18 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I was really disappointed with Langdon's on field attitude early in the game last week. The tackle he missed where the Dogs player simply brushed past him tells me where his mindset was post Goodwin, and his mid week presser wasn't just words.

Plus, the fact that the younger brigade have taken his starting wing role....

Have seriously rated him as a player hthough.

Yeh, I mean he's got some admirable running ability but we need to move past this type of player now. Lindsay has running capacity and foot skills.

Is there anyone who kicks the ball out on the full as much is Langdon? It's wild.

3 minutes ago, Deez21 said:

Lots of teams were keen on Lever. He couldn't wait to get out.
After the Goody sacking, he's very keen to stay

Do you have Intel on this or is this just a hunch?

Just now, Howard_Grimes said:

Do you have Intel on this or is this just a hunch?

Very well sourced