28 minutes ago, Travy14 said:

He is a 23 year old number 9 pick. he is a good replacement for Billings and hope we can get the best out of him. he will be cheap and there is potential there.

He’s a good replacement for Billings in so much as he’s a vfl level player

Perkins could be a really good player - Essendon have mismanaged his development.

Pies recruiting been OK - they did pay a lot of $$$$ for Perryman and Houston fell into their lap as he wanted us then Carlton but ended up at Pies. Not been fantastic so far. Schultz their supporters hated until a few weeks ago and most of the others were free hits.

5 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

Perkins could be a really good player - Essendon have mismanaged his development.

Famous last words.

No deal for me.

2 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

@JTR or Collingwood … who brought in smart trade , DFA and FA recruiting …Hill,Houston, Lipinski, Schultz, Perryman, Mcstay, and role players in Long, Markov, Frampton, Membrey, and still added Allan and West.

Collingwood fielded the oldest team in AFL/VFL history just a couple of months ago, so not a great example of a sustainable list that will keep carrying them forward.

Watch them drop off a cliff - and become another West Coast - when Pendlebury (37), Howe (35), Sidebottom (34), Cox (34), Elliott (32), Mitchell (32), Mihocek (32), Crisp (31), Hoskin-Elliott (31), Membrey (31), Cameron (30), McStay (30), Moore (29) and De Goey (29) are all gone.

As for trading/recruiting, some of their ins have been good, but they gave up a lot for them at the expense of getting good kids from the draft.
They are also players that for various reasons we probably wouldn't have wanted/needed.

Houston (28yo) they got for 2 players (Noble & Richards) and a future 1st

Schultz (27) was pick 34 and a future 1st

Perryman (26) was a free agent, but got GWS 1st round compensation (pick 19), so he got a big contract

McStay (30) was another free agent, but on a 5 year contract as a 28yo. Lions got 2nd round compensation.

Bobby Hill (25) was a good pick up (future 2nd), but he asked to be traded to the Collingwood, having previously asked to be traded to Essendon the year prior and failing to get there.
Not much we could have done about that.

Oleg Markov (29) via SSP and Billy Frampton (28) for a future 3rd... lol, I can imagine the melts here if we had got either of them.
They are made to look good in a team that is playing well. Same goes for Lipinski (27) who they got for pick 43.

Ned Long (22) was an excellent pick up in mid season draft.
We only had one pick in that draft (due to Brayshaw retirement) and used it to get Kentfield
Long could have been handy, but would we have needed another big bodied and mostly inside mid, when everyone was screaming for us to find a tall forward?

Tim Membrey (31) another good pickup as a delisted free agent, but where would he have fit in for us when when already have JVR, Jefferson and Turner as our talls who we were probably expecting a lot more from?


Collingwood have been trading/recruiting to keep themselves in the window and this has worked for them, cause the majority of their senior core are still playing well.

Unlike us.

20 minutes ago, JTR said:

Collingwood fielded the oldest team in AFL/VFL history just a couple of months ago, so not a great example of a sustainable list that will keep carrying them forward.

Watch them drop off a cliff - and become another West Coast - when Pendlebury (37), Howe (35), Sidebottom (34), Cox (34), Elliott (32), Mitchell (32), Mihocek (32), Crisp (31), Hoskin-Elliott (31), Membrey (31), Cameron (30), McStay (30), Moore (29) and De Goey (29) are all gone.

As for trading/recruiting, some of their ins have been good, but they gave up a lot for them at the expense of getting good kids from the draft.
They are also players that for various reasons we probably wouldn't have wanted/needed.

Houston (28yo) they got for 2 players (Noble & Richards) and a future 1st

Schultz (27) was pick 34 and a future 1st

Perryman (26) was a free agent, but got GWS 1st round compensation (pick 19), so he got a big contract

McStay (30) was another free agent, but on a 5 year contract as a 28yo. Lions got 2nd round compensation.

Bobby Hill (25) was a good pick up (future 2nd), but he asked to be traded to the Collingwood, having previously asked to be traded to Essendon the year prior and failing to get there.
Not much we could have done about that.

Oleg Markov (29) via SSP and Billy Frampton (28) for a future 3rd... lol, I can imagine the melts here if we had got either of them.
They are made to look good in a team that is playing well. Same goes for Lipinski (27) who they got for pick 43.

Ned Long (22) was an excellent pick up in mid season draft.
We only had one pick in that draft (due to Brayshaw retirement) and used it to get Kentfield
Long could have been handy, but would we have needed another big bodied and mostly inside mid, when everyone was screaming for us to find a tall forward?

Tim Membrey (31) another good pickup as a delisted free agent, but where would he have fit in for us when when already have JVR, Jefferson and Turner as our talls who we were probably expecting a lot more from?


Collingwood have been trading/recruiting to keep themselves in the window and this has worked for them, cause the majority of their senior core are still playing well.

Unlike us.

I would swap their 2025 flag with our 16th spot.

1 hour ago, Clintosaurus said:

Perkins could be a really good player - Essendon have mismanaged his development.

Pies recruiting been OK - they did pay a lot of $$$$ for Perryman and Houston fell into their lap as he wanted us then Carlton but ended up at Pies. Not been fantastic so far. Schultz their supporters hated until a few weeks ago and most of the others were free hits.

Agree on Perkins, he’s a smart target

We need to nail 1 or 2 players in a trade/FA period, then 2 more in the draft and add White and Sinnema. Surely we are taking to the Hawks about Henry Hustwaite. Young mid who is squeezed out of their midfield even before Day comes back. Offer him a sweet 3 year deal and could be a good chance.

1 hour ago, bluey said:

I would swap their 2025 flag with our 16th spot.

They've won it already have they? 🤣

I think we've seen - even in our game - how good they actually are when teams are prepared and able to take it up to them.

Time will tell, but I'd be very surprised if they won the flag.

10 minutes ago, JTR said:

They've won it already have they? 🤣

I think we've seen - even in our game - how good they actually are when teams are prepared and able to take it up to them.

Time will tell, but I'd be very surprised if they won the flag.

I won’t be

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1 hour ago, No10 said:

Agree on Perkins, he’s a smart target

Each and every Essendon fan will tell you that's he's a list clogger of the vanilla variety who has never looked anything other than mediocre despite being drafted in the top ten by the maestro Adrian Dodoro. They'd be rapt if we were foolish enough to take him off their hands.

2 hours ago, JTR said:

Collingwood fielded the oldest team in AFL/VFL history just a couple of months ago, so not a great example of a sustainable list that will keep carrying them forward.

Watch them drop off a cliff - and become another West Coast - when Pendlebury (37), Howe (35), Sidebottom (34), Cox (34), Elliott (32), Mitchell (32), Mihocek (32), Crisp (31), Hoskin-Elliott (31), Membrey (31), Cameron (30), McStay (30), Moore (29) and De Goey (29) are all gone.

As for trading/recruiting, some of their ins have been good, but they gave up a lot for them at the expense of getting good kids from the draft.
They are also players that for various reasons we probably wouldn't have wanted/needed.

Houston (28yo) they got for 2 players (Noble & Richards) and a future 1st

Schultz (27) was pick 34 and a future 1st

Perryman (26) was a free agent, but got GWS 1st round compensation (pick 19), so he got a big contract

McStay (30) was another free agent, but on a 5 year contract as a 28yo. Lions got 2nd round compensation.

Bobby Hill (25) was a good pick up (future 2nd), but he asked to be traded to the Collingwood, having previously asked to be traded to Essendon the year prior and failing to get there.
Not much we could have done about that.

Oleg Markov (29) via SSP and Billy Frampton (28) for a future 3rd... lol, I can imagine the melts here if we had got either of them.
They are made to look good in a team that is playing well. Same goes for Lipinski (27) who they got for pick 43.

Ned Long (22) was an excellent pick up in mid season draft.
We only had one pick in that draft (due to Brayshaw retirement) and used it to get Kentfield
Long could have been handy, but would we have needed another big bodied and mostly inside mid, when everyone was screaming for us to find a tall forward?

Tim Membrey (31) another good pickup as a delisted free agent, but where would he have fit in for us when when already have JVR, Jefferson and Turner as our talls who we were probably expecting a lot more from?


Collingwood have been trading/recruiting to keep themselves in the window and this has worked for them, cause the majority of their senior core are still playing well.

Unlike us.

That’s a lot of money freed up to buy more of the same.

They have been supposedly falling off a cliff every year, for how many years now?

Collingwood have a club that’s united and powerful, they won’t bottom out any time soon

Callum Brown has signed on at GWS for a further three years.

We can officially scratch that one off the list.