Trade Targets 2025

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1 minute ago, whatwhat say what said:

no way

houston is one of the best ball users in the competition

callaghan is a good player, but houston is a two-time all oztrayan for good reason

Callahan is FAR superior to DH, not even close. Diff roles, age a factor in that also.

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5 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

did you see the game where gw$ beat the puddy tatts down at sleepy hollow and it felt like he marked EVERY f50 entry?

Yes, that is what made me see improvement, but outside of that he has looked a lil shaky.. but def has some talent that much is clear, wld just make me nervous ala Chisholm used to same kinda jitters spring to mind

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I am still holding some hope that there are 1-2 players were into that aren't public yet, seems its not Riccardi or C Brown like i'd hoped or Hogan which I was trying to manifest haha but def feels like there is someone in the wind late.. Callahan feels like a next year one for Saints and anyone else but if available have a crack, issue is gonna be pick5 ie we are NOT moving it for anything! Hence why SH deal won't come back, as we weren't thinking it'd be #5 when he backed-out so am glad he did, the turncoat he is!

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2 minutes ago, Tolstoys Nudge said:

Callahan is FAR superior to DH, not even close. Diff roles, age a factor in that also.

i'm sorry but i just don't see it

houston is a much better ball user by foot, accrues more disposals, impacts the play much more...

personally, i'd like both!

don't see this as a knock on callaghan; more of an indication of how highly houston is as a player in my estimation

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5 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

i'm sorry but i just don't see it

houston is a much better ball user by foot, accrues more disposals, impacts the play much more...

personally, i'd like both!

don't see this as a knock on callaghan; more of an indication of how highly houston is as a player in my estimation

Finn is certified line breaker, precise by foot and a lethal finisher with pace.. and YOUNG

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15 minutes ago, Tolstoys Nudge said:

Finn is certified line breaker, precise by foot and a lethal finisher with pace.. and YOUNG

he's anything but precise by foot imo

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Callaghan is a tease, not buying the hype just yet

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1 hour ago, adonski said:

Callaghan is a tease, not buying the hype just yet

Fair enough.. but if he was a Demon it'd be a game-changer for me & i'd be hyped-up like a 90's rap MC 🤩

2024 Disposals: 22.9 / 346m gained

2024 Player rating: 11.65 (for perspective, that is similar to say Daniels at GWS, and is better than Langdon has ever had best of 10.1 same exact best rating as Salem coincidentally in his entire career, Finn has played 50 games) So I think saying he is a tease might be a little harsh for a 3rd year player. But get where you are coming from!

For further ref only, Trac goes i50 more than anyone just about and therefore his kicking (which is inconsistent we know) is 55% for career @4.9 i50's per game.. His kicks go 17m on avg, Finn's 16m.

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47 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

he's anything but precise by foot imo

74% disp eff and 66% kicking eff career, lowest being this year but his inside 50's this year was way up to 4 a game from 3 per game so that works hand in hand really. For a line breaker that's running at speed, that is v solid. He takes the kicks most never even attempt which hurts him but that is GWS coaches encouraging him to do so most likely. Comp to Nibbler for instance who went at 53% Kick Eff this year at similar i50 per game (less though 3.4 vs Finn 3.8) Salem for instance goes 72% Career but has only 2 i50 per game and LY went at 68% kicking eff.. Gus is his closest demon career wise and Gus wasn't sprinting 80% of time he kicked.. 

20 Coaches votes this year for me means he has gone form prospect to pro -- but we all have our opinions that is what makes the world go round haha

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Perhaps our best trade-in will be if we can somehow get another top-15 pick, feels like a list-changing draft ala Kos/Jackson so if we can get that pick 14 were chasing or anything else, which is something we've always done well, that will bear potential fruit down the line greater than anything else.

 

FWIW I think getting  Membrey, Derkson, Daniel, Owies combo would be solid enough w/youth added to make a massive overall change to the list depth without obv seeing topline like Lever/May which can't be expected most years.. Preuss/Soldo/Crossley as ruck depth would also be something I'd love to see, kid from SA who's a Ruck is also in our current 2nd pick draft range as well.

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On 18/09/2024 at 12:54, dazzledavey36 said:

If we're not going hard on this bloke then I'll fully rage 

 

So long as strapping's outside the salary cap...

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Just now, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

So long as strapping's outside the salary cap...

Seriously, though, are his shoulders an issue?

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2 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

no way

houston is one of the best ball users in the competition

callaghan is a good player, but houston is a two-time all oztrayan for good reason

Callaghan is still just 21 with only 50 games under his belt.

Callaghan has far more upside, imo.  Should become a superstar.

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Is Callaghan wanting to come to Vic? If he's an option to extract from GWS, then we should throw the kitchen sink at him. He was previously a top 5 pick and has shown he was worth it, developing well in a stacked midfield. We should throw pick 5 without a second thought and potentially sweeteners on top. He's already a very good line breaking midfielder inside and outside particularly. He will be a star in future and only 21 years old.

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1 hour ago, Lord Travis said:

Is Callaghan wanting to come to Vic? If he's an option to extract from GWS, then we should throw the kitchen sink at him. He was previously a top 5 pick and has shown he was worth it, developing well in a stacked midfield. We should throw pick 5 without a second thought and potentially sweeteners on top. He's already a very good line breaking midfielder inside and outside particularly. He will be a star in future and only 21 years old.

Contracted until the end of next year and no signs that he’s unhappy. I expect over summer he’ll sign an extension until free agency Ie, 2029.

We should make him an offer (both now and for post 2025), the same as the Saints and half the other Melbourne clubs should. Doubt he’ll be interested though.

I can’t imagine there’s anyway GWS would trade him short of a stupid offer Ie. Pick 5, future first, steak knives and whilst he’s very good I don’t think that’s a wise deal.