Demonland 74,430 Posted March 5, 2024 Posted March 5, 2024 OVERALL VOTES (21 voters) To play finals 21 (of 21) - Brisbane Lions, Collingwood, GWS Giants 20 - Carlton 17 - Melbourne 16 - Port Adelaide 14 - Sydney Swans 13 - Adelaide Crows 7 - Western Bulldogs 6 - St Kilda 5 - Geelong 3 - Essendon 2 - Fremantle, Gold Coast Suns Premiers 13 - Brisbane Lions 3 - Collingwood 2 - GWS Giants, Sydney Swans 1 - Carlton Runner-up 9 - Collingwood 3 - Brisbane Lions, Carlton, GWS Giants 2 - Sydney Swans 1 - Melbourne Wooden spoon 18 - West Coast Eagles 3 - North Melbourne Brownlow Medal 5 - Nick Daicos (Collingwood), Tom Green (GWS Giants), Errol Gulden (Sydney Swans) 2 - Marcus Bontempelli (Western Bulldogs) 1 - Zak Butters (Port Adelaide), Toby Greene (GWS Giants), Christian Petracca (Melbourne), Caleb Serong (Fremantle) Coleman Medal 6 - Charlie Curnow (Carlton) 5 - Nick Larkey (North Melbourne) 4 - Jeremy Cameron (Geelong) 2 - Aaron Naughton (Western Bulldogs) 1 - Ben King (Gold Coast Suns), Max King (St Kilda), Jamarra Ugle-Hagan (Western Bulldogs), Taylor Walker (Adelaide) JONATHAN BROWN Top 8 changes: Adelaide and Western Bulldogs IN, St Kilda and Sydney OUT Premiers: Brisbane Lions. “So close last year. The additions of Will Ashcroft, Tom Doedee and Jack Payne, all not there on Grand Final day should get them to the promised land.” Runner-up: Collingwood Wooden spoon: West Coast Eagles Brownlow Medal: Nick Daicos (Collingwood) Coleman Medal: Jeremy Cameron (Geelong) BEN COTTON Top 8 changes: Adelaide IN, St Kilda OUT Premiers: Collingwood Runner-up: Brisbane Lions Wooden spoon: West Coast Eagles Brownlow Medal: Nick Daicos (Collingwood) Coleman Medal: Nick Larkey (North Melbourne) BEN DIXON Top 8 changes: Adelaide and Essendon IN, Melbourne and St Kilda OUT Premiers: Collingwood. “System and talent, clearly the competition leaders in these areas, young enough to be still hungry and their ability to win tight games in clutch moments is no fluke.” Runner-up: Sydney Swans Wooden spoon: West Coast Eagles Brownlow Medal: Toby Greene (GWS Giants) Coleman Medal: Charlie Curnow (Carlton) JASON DUNSTALL Top 8 changes: Adelaide IN, St Kilda OUT Premiers: Brisbane Lions Runner-up: Collingwood Wooden spoon: West Coast Eagles Brownlow Medal: Marcus Bontempelli (Western Bulldogs) Coleman Medal: Charlie Curnow (Carlton) BRAD JOHNSON Top 8 changes: Western Bulldogs IN, St Kilda OUT Premiers: Brisbane Lions. “They have class all over the ground and will finish top 4 to put themselves in the best position to hold up the cup in 2024.” Runner-up: Carlton Wooden spoon: North Melbourne Brownlow Medal: Errol Gulden (Sydney Swans) Coleman Medal: Aaron Naughton (Western Bulldogs) SARAH JONES Top 8 changes: Adelaide and Essendon IN, Port Adelaide and St Kilda OUT Premiers: Brisbane Lions Runner-up: Collingwood Wooden spoon: West Coast Eagles Brownlow Medal: Errol Gulden (Sydney Swans) Coleman Medal: Jeremy Cameron (Geelong) JACK JOVANOVSKI Top 8 changes: Adelaide and Geelong IN, Port Adelaide and Sydney OUT Premiers: Brisbane Lions Runner-up: Collingwood Wooden spoon: West Coast Eagles Brownlow Medal: Tom Green (GWS Giants) Coleman Medal: Nick Larkey (North Melbourne) DAVID KING Top 8 changes: Western Bulldogs IN, Melbourne OUT Premiers: Collingwood. “I think the Pies will be better in year three under Craig McRae. Collingwood played awesome football pre-bye last year, but patchy after that point, winning games in bursts, which avails significant scope for improvement.” Runner-up: GWS Giants Wooden spoon: West Coast Eagles Brownlow Medal: Nick Daicos (Collingwood) Coleman Medal: Nick Larkey (North Melbourne) MAX LAUGHTON Top 8 changes: Adelaide and Geelong IN, Carlton and Sydney OUT Premiers: Brisbane Lions Runner-up: GWS Giants Wooden spoon: West Coast Eagles Brownlow Medal: Marcus Bontempelli (Western Bulldogs) Coleman Medal: Max King (St Kilda) KATH LOUGHNAN Top 8 changes: Adelaide and Fremantle IN, Port Adelaide and St Kilda OUT Premiers: GWS Giants. “I want to see history made with Toby Greene and Adam Kingsley leading the Giants to their first ever premiership.” Runner-up: Brisbane Lions Wooden spoon: North Melbourne Brownlow Medal: Nick Daicos (Collingwood) Coleman Medal: Taylor Walker (Adelaide) ALASTAIR LYNCH Top 8 changes: Nil Premiers: Brisbane Lions. “They’re the only team to play in finals all of the past five years and they’ve won the most games over the last five years. The team that narrowly got beaten on Grand Final day last year will improve: Will Ashcroft will come in for the second half of the year, Tom Doedee comes in too and their better players like Hugh McCluggage and Zac Bailey are young and improving ... They’ve got to win one. There’ll be a next year, but those stats are both good and bad. You play finals the last five years and win the most games last five years and not win one? That’s no good. I think they are legitimately getting better, so they’ve got to win one.” Runner-up: Collingwood Wooden spoon: West Coast Eagles Brownlow Medal: Errol Gulden (Sydney Swans) Coleman Medal: Jeremy Cameron (Geelong Cats) GARRY LYON Top 8 changes: Geelong IN, St Kilda OUT Premiers: Brisbane Lions. “Been trending towards this for 5 years. They’re ready.” Runner-up: GWS Giants Wooden spoon: West Coast Eagles Brownlow Medal: Tom Green (GWS Giants) Coleman Medal: Charlie Curnow (Carlton) LEIGH MONTAGNA Top 8 changes: Geelong IN, Sydney OUT Premiers: Brisbane Lions. “This is their season, no excuses, Gabba fortress, players in their prime.” Runner-up: Melbourne Wooden spoon: West Coast Eagles Brownlow Medal: Caleb Serong (Fremantle) Coleman Medal: Charlie Curnow (Carlton) CAMERON MOONEY Top 8 changes: Adelaide and Geelong IN, Melbourne and St Kilda OUT Premiers: GWS Giants. “They have all three areas covered well as a team, with game winners on every-line and last year will push them to go further.” Runner-up: Collingwood Wooden spoon: West Coast Eagles Brownlow Medal: Tom Green (GWS Giants) Coleman Medal: Nick Larkey (North Melbourne) MATTHEW PAVLICH Top 8 changes: Essendon and Fremantle IN, Port Adelaide and St Kilda OUT Premiers: Carlton Runner-up: Sydney Swans Wooden spoon: West Coast Eagles Brownlow Medal: Christian Petracca (Melbourne) Coleman Medal: Jeremy Cameron (Geelong) MARK RICCIUTO Top 8 changes: Adelaide and Gold Coast IN, St Kilda and Sydney OUT Premiers: Brisbane Lions. “Very close last year and would be hungrier than ever.” Runner-up: Collingwood Wooden spoon: North Melbourne Brownlow Medal: Zak Butters (Port Adelaide) Coleman Medal: Nick Larkey (North Melbourne) JACK RIEWOLDT Top 8 changes: Adelaide and Gold Coast IN, Port Adelaide and St Kilda OUT Premiers: Sydney Swans Runner-up: Collingwood Wooden spoon: West Coast Eagles Brownlow Medal: Errol Gulden (Sydney Swans) Coleman Medal: Ben King (Gold Coast Suns) DWAYNE RUSSELL Top 8 changes: Western Bulldogs IN, St Kilda OUT Premiers: Brisbane Lions. “Perfectly placed to go one better after meeting a better team on Grand Final day last year, and blowing a golden opportunity when the grand final was at the Gabba.” Runner-up: Collingwood Wooden spoon: West Coast Eagles Brownlow Medal: Nick Daicos (Collingwood) Coleman Medal: Charlie Curnow (Carlton) KELLI UNDERWOOD Top 8 changes: Adelaide and Western Bulldogs IN, Melbourne and St Kilda OUT Premiers: Sydney Swans. “No Bud, but Brodie will use the fire in his belly to propel the Swans to their first flag in twelve years.” Runner-up: Brisbane Lions Wooden spoon: West Coast Eagles Brownlow Medal: Errol Gulden (Sydney Swans) Coleman Medal: Aaron Naughton (Western Bulldogs) BEN WATERWORTH Top 8 changes: Western Bulldogs IN, Sydney Swans OUT Premiers: Brisbane Lions Runner-up: Carlton Wooden spoon: West Coast Eagles Brownlow Medal: Tom Green (GWS Giants) Coleman Medal: Charlie Curnow (Carlton) DAVID ZITA Top 8 changes: Adelaide and Western Bulldogs IN, St Kilda and Sydney OUT Premiers: Brisbane Lions Runner-up: Carlton Wooden spoon: West Coast Eagles Brownlow Medal: Tom Green (GWS Giants) Coleman Medal: Jamarra Ugle-Hagan (Western Bulldogs) 2 Quote
binman 44,824 Posted March 5, 2024 Posted March 5, 2024 (edited) Ben Dixon: Premiers: Collingwood. “System and talent, clearly the competition leaders in these areas, young enough to be still hungry and their ability to win tight games in clutch moments is no fluke.” Young enough to still be hungry? We'll i guess that could apply to any team, but relevant data points are the Pies have the oldest list in the AFL and 9 of their best 22 players are over 30: Cameron Mihocek Crisp Hoskin-Elliott Elliott Cox Sidebottom Howe Pendlebury Edited March 5, 2024 by binman 7 2 Quote
Fromgotowoewodin 1,606 Posted March 5, 2024 Posted March 5, 2024 With Dixon and King putting us out of the 8 you can pretty much lock us in now. Easy option to nominate the pies again but I think they’ll struggle to go back to back. Won a lot of close games last 2 years, could’ve lost any of their 3 finals last year. Pundits overrating them. That said we have a fair bit of work to do to stay in top 4 contention as other teams are coming (giants and swans worry me) 7 1 Quote
DistrACTION Jackson 10,728 Posted March 5, 2024 Posted March 5, 2024 Seeing as the 'experts' very rarely get it right I am happy with these 1 1 Quote
Demon17 5,262 Posted March 5, 2024 Posted March 5, 2024 Dermot says Lions won't win a flag with Daniher and Hipwood as their key forwards I agree with him 2 Quote
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted March 5, 2024 Posted March 5, 2024 It's perfect for the club really, no pressure or expectation externally compared to the extreme levels of the last few years. I've got a feeling we're going to make a few "Experts" look a bit silly in 2024 4 Quote
rjay 25,424 Posted March 5, 2024 Posted March 5, 2024 We will all know at the end of September... These predictions are set up to make us all look like fools. 1 hour ago, Demonland said: GARRY LYON Top 8 changes: Geelong IN, St Kilda OUT Premiers: Brisbane Lions. “Been trending towards this for 5 years. They’re ready.” 1 hour ago, Demonland said: Premiers: Brisbane Lions. “Perfectly placed to go one better after meeting a better team on Grand Final day last year, and blowing a golden opportunity when the grand final was at the Gabba.” So, let me say that things rarely go in a straight line as far as life and sport are concerned. Brisbane to have a rocky ride this season... 1 Quote
Roost it far 10,136 Posted March 5, 2024 Posted March 5, 2024 Brisbane deserve to be favourites, they’ll be incredibly hard to beat 2 Quote
deebunked 285 Posted March 5, 2024 Posted March 5, 2024 Everyone picked Eagles for the spoon. They'll still have one of the better crowd aggregates in '24. I just hope Collingwood drop off. Highly possible, their arrogance is vomitous. 2 Quote
Its Time for Another 4,306 Posted March 5, 2024 Posted March 5, 2024 I think you'd be confident in saying many of the predictions about us are based on the pre season issues and thinking we won't be able to play football anymore. Blues game showed not only are we still an elite drilled unite but our system is even better. Plus hopefully our injury woes will be well behind us within the next 4-6 weeks but they might cause us a shaky start in the first 6 weeks which could leave us outside the 4 for a while. Thus opening game is sooo important. I haven't seen anyone in the press comment on the fact that we flogged Collingwood and Carlton in the finals in every statistic except unfortunately the final one of a winning score. All we need to do is fix that final part of the system and we should be serious contenders and on the basis of the Carlton game there's a lot of improvement already. IT's prediction. If we get through the first 6 weeks at say 4-2 we'll finish top 2 and will be hard to stop from there. I have a wedding to go to on Grand Final day. I've already told She Who Must Be Obeyed I'm not going to miss finally seeing a Dees Premiership live for that wedding. 9 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted March 5, 2024 Posted March 5, 2024 AFL WEBSITE Prediction from Nathan “Chook” 🐔 Nathan Schmook Premier: Brisbane Runner-up: Greater Western Sydney Wooden spoon: West Coast Moving up: Fremantle Set to fall: Melbourne Club under the most pressure (and why): Melbourne. The Demons haven't taken full advantage of their prime years. Ending two seasons of straight-sets exits will be a challenge after their pre-season setbacks. Will the Suns finally make finals?: No Brownlow Medal: Errol Gulden Coleman Medal: Charlie Curnow AFL Rising Star: Colby McKercher Recruit of the year: Brodie Grundy Surprise All-Australian: Jordan Clark Who should headline the Grand Final entertainment?: Foo Fighters Headline you'll see: Freo zeroes in on forward target with draft kitty Headline you won't see: Club pushes the line with matchday concussion management Big call: Like the Brownlow Medal in 2023, youth will be the big storyline in the Coleman Medal race (around Charlie Curnow) as Max King, Jamarra Ugle-Hagan and Nick Larkey push the superstar Blue with top-five finishes. Schmook's ladder prediction 1. Brisbane 2. Greater Western Sydney 3. Collingwood 4. Sydney 5. Carlton 6. Fremantle 7. Adelaide 8. Port Adelaide 9. St Kilda 10. Western Bulldogs 11. Melbourne 12. Gold Coast 13. Geelong 14. Essendon 15. Hawthorn 16. Richmond 17. North Melbourne 18. West Coast 1 Quote
Demonland 74,430 Posted March 5, 2024 Author Posted March 5, 2024 Damian Barrett Premier: Brisbane Runner-up: Geelong Wooden spoon: Hawthorn Moving up: Geelong Set to fall: Port Adelaide Club under the most pressure (and why): Gold Coast, because it sacked Dew to get Dimma, and now won’t stop talking about finals Will the Suns finally make finals?: No Brownlow Medal: Chad Warner Coleman Medal: Jeremy Cameron AFL Rising Star: Ryley Sanders Recruit of the year: Brodie Grundy Surprise All-Australian: Ollie Henry Who should headline the Grand Final entertainment? Def Leppard and Motley Crue Headline you'll see: Melbourne: We Don’t Have A Drug Culture Headline you won't see: Gold Coast: We Knew We Had Dimma Even Before 2023 Started Big call: Suns Pick Up Buddy In Mid-Season Draft Barrett's ladder prediction 1. Brisbane 2. Geelong 3. Sydney 4. Greater Western Sydney 5. Collingwood 6. Carlton 7. Melbourne 8. Adelaide 9. St Kilda 10. Fremantle 11. Port Adelaide 12. Western Bulldogs 13. Essendon 14. Gold Coast 15. Richmond 16. West Coast 17. North Melbourne 18. Hawthorn Riley Beveridge Premier: Collingwood Runner-up: Brisbane Wooden spoon: West Coast Moving up: Adelaide Set to fall: St Kilda Club under the most pressure (and why): Gold Coast. Made the splashy coaching hire, now the Suns simply have to deliver and finally play finals football Will the Suns finally make finals?: No Brownlow Medal: Nick Daicos Coleman Medal: Charlie Curnow AFL Rising Star: Colby McKercher Recruit of the year: Lachie Schultz Surprise All-Australian: Josh Rachele Who should headline the Grand Final entertainment? Dua Lipa Headline you'll see: Nick Daicos stamps his name as the best player in the League Headline you won't see: Pressure off Blues as Michael Voss' side has a quiet few weeks Big call: All-Australian ruck Tim English lured home and joins the Eagles Beveridge's ladder prediction 1. Brisbane 2. Collingwood 3. Carlton 4. Greater Western Sydney 5. Melbourne 6. Port Adelaide 7. Adelaide 8. Sydney 9. Gold Coast 10. Western Bulldogs 11. Geelong 12. St Kilda 13. Essendon 14. Richmond 15. Fremantle 16. North Melbourne 17. Hawthorn 18. West Coast Sarah Black Premier: Brisbane Runner-up: Collingwood Wooden spoon: North Melbourne Moving up: Sydney Set to fall: Richmond Club under the most pressure (and why): Melbourne. An off-season in the headlines for all the wrong reasons, coupled with a talented list and an injury-decimated forward line spells concerns. Will the Suns finally make finals?: No (the women did it last year, though!) Brownlow Medal: Marcus Bontempelli. Please. The man needs one. Coleman Medal: Charlie Curnow AFL Rising Star: Ryley Sanders Recruit of the year: Tom Doedee Surprise All-Australian: Noah Anderson Who should headline the Grand Final entertainment?: Taytay played to 96,000 last month, let's bump it up to 100k. Dream big. Headline you'll see: Bombers' finals win-drought celebrates 20 years Headline you won't see: Tiges bounce back under Yze Big call: Cats to continue a slow descent, the old guard leading them to a couple of upset wins along the way Black's ladder prediction 1. Brisbane 2. Collingwood 3. Sydney 4. Greater Western Sydney 5. Carlton 6. Melbourne 7. Port Adelaide 8. Adelaide 9. St Kilda 10. Geelong 11. Fremantle 12. Western Bulldogs 13. Gold Coast 14. Essendon 15. Richmond 16. West Coast 17. Hawthorn 18. North Melbourne Nat Edwards Premier: Brisbane Runner-up: Carlton Wooden spoon: West Coast Moving up: Adelaide Set to fall: St Kilda Club under the most pressure (and why): Melbourne. It's the obvious answer, but after a tumultuous season they are going to be feeling the heat if they don't get off to a good start. Will the Suns finally make finals?: I've been burned by the Suns on this front for the last two seasons, never again. So, no. Brownlow Medal: Nick Daicos Coleman Medal: Nick Larkey AFL Rising Star: George Wardlaw Recruit of the year: Brodie Grundy Surprise All-Australian: Max Holmes Who should headline the Grand Final entertainment? Taylor Swift - she's already been enchanted by Melbourne, so why not get her back to rock the 'G in style? It's the perfect Love Story. Headline you'll see: Contract talks on hold for Dusty Headline you won't see: Eagles fans revolt after West Coast brings back the banner Big call: Brodie Grundy back in the All-Australian team Edwards' ladder prediction 1. Brisbane 2. Carlton 3. Collingwood 4. Port Adelaide 5. Greater Western Sydney 6. Melbourne 7. Adelaide 8. Essendon 9. Sydney 10. Western Bulldogs 11. Geelong 12. Gold Coast 13. St Kilda 14. Fremantle 15. Richmond 16. Hawthorn 17. North Melbourne 18. West Coast Josh Gabelich Premier: Brisbane Runner-up: Collingwood Wooden spoon: West Coast Moving up: Adelaide Set to fall: St Kilda Club under the most pressure (and why): Western Bulldogs following the off-season upheaval in the footy department. Will the Suns finally make finals?: No Brownlow Medal: Tom Green Coleman Medal: Nick Larkey AFL Rising Star: Ryley Sanders Recruit of the year: Brodie Grundy Surprise All-Australian: Hayden Young Who should headline the Grand Final entertainment? DMAs Headline you'll see: Eagles chase free agent Tim English Headline you won't see: Brisbane's era under Chris Fagan is over Big call: Bailey Smith has played his final game for the Western Bulldogs Gabelich's ladder prediction 1. Brisbane 2. Collingwood 3. Carlton 4. Greater Western Sydney 5. Sydney 6. Port Adelaide 7. Western Bulldogs 8. Adelaide 9. Melbourne 10. Gold Coast 11. St Kilda 12. Fremantle 13. Geelong 14. Essendon 15. Richmond 16. Hawthorn 17. North Melbourne 18. West Coast Sarah Olle Premier: Brisbane Runner-up: Greater Western Sydney Wooden spoon: West Coast Moving up: Adelaide Set to fall: St Kilda Club under the most pressure (and why): Given its off-season, Melbourne will be an eternal fascination in 2024. If Carlton can't hit the highs of last year, it will be intriguing to see if the Blues revert to self-implosion or maintain the course. Fremantle must perform better – otherwise expect coach Justin Longmuir's tenure to be at the fore of discussion in the west. Will the Suns finally make finals?: No. But by the thinnest of margins. Brownlow Medal: A NSW flavour: Errol Gulden or Tom Green Coleman Medal: Charlie Curnow AFL Rising Star: If he stays fit, George Wardlaw. Expect an immediate impact from Ryley Sanders. Recruit of the year: Lachie Schultz will fit in beautifully at the reining premiers, while Brodie Grundy will fill a big hole at the Swans. Surprise All-Australian: Mitch Owens Who should headline the Grand Final entertainment? Bring some more girl power to the 'G: Is Beyonce in the budget? Headline you'll see: 400 not out: Pendles eyes Boomer's games record Headline you won't see: Honeymoon period's over for McRae Big call: Extra time will decide the Grand Final Olle's ladder prediction 1. Brisbane 2. Greater Western Sydney 3. Collingwood 4. Port Adelaide 5. Carlton 6. Melbourne 7. Adelaide 8. Sydney 9. Gold Coast 10. Geelong 11. Western Bulldogs 12. St Kilda 13. Essendon 14. Fremantle 15. Richmond 16. Hawthorn 17. North Melbourne 18. West Coast Nathan Schmook Premier: Brisbane Runner-up: Greater Western Sydney Wooden spoon: West Coast Moving up: Fremantle Set to fall: Melbourne Club under the most pressure (and why): Melbourne. The Demons haven't taken full advantage of their prime years. Ending two seasons of straight-sets exits will be a challenge after their pre-season setbacks. Will the Suns finally make finals?: No Brownlow Medal: Errol Gulden Coleman Medal: Charlie Curnow AFL Rising Star: Colby McKercher Recruit of the year: Brodie Grundy Surprise All-Australian: Jordan Clark Who should headline the Grand Final entertainment?: Foo Fighters Headline you'll see: Freo zeroes in on forward target with draft kitty Headline you won't see: Club pushes the line with matchday concussion management Big call: Like the Brownlow Medal in 2023, youth will be the big storyline in the Coleman Medal race (around Charlie Curnow) as Max King, Jamarra Ugle-Hagan and Nick Larkey push the superstar Blue with top-five finishes. Schmook's ladder prediction 1. Brisbane 2. Greater Western Sydney 3. Collingwood 4. Sydney 5. Carlton 6. Fremantle 7. Adelaide 8. Port Adelaide 9. St Kilda 10. Western Bulldogs 11. Melbourne 12. Gold Coast 13. Geelong 14. Essendon 15. Hawthorn 16. Richmond 17. North Melbourne 18. West Coast Callum Twomey Premier: Brisbane Runner-up: Port Adelaide Wooden spoon: West Coast Moving up: Gold Coast Set to fall: St Kilda Club under the most pressure (and why): Brisbane – they're as ready as a challenger can be. Five years near the top and they have a super list. Will the Suns finally make finals?: Miss on percentage Brownlow Medal: Nick Daicos Coleman Medal: Jeremy Cameron AFL Rising Star: Harley Reid Recruit of the year: Lachie Schultz Surprise All-Australian: Nic Martin Who should headline the Grand Final entertainment?: Katy Perry or Pink Headline you'll see: Bring back the tagger Headline you won't see: Clubs in full agreeance on 2025 mid-season trade rules Big call: Sam Darcy becomes a star of the competition in his third season Twomey's ladder prediction 1. Brisbane 2. Port Adelaide 3. Collingwood 4. Melbourne 5. Greater Western Sydney 6. Carlton 7. Sydney 8. Western Bulldogs 9. Gold Coast 10. Essendon 11. Adelaide 12. St Kilda 13. Fremantle 14. Geelong 15. Richmond 16. North Melbourne 17. Hawthorn 18. West Coast Michael Whiting Premier: Brisbane Runner-up: Greater Western Sydney Wooden spoon: West Coast Moving up: Adelaide Set to fall: St Kilda Club under the most pressure (and why): Melbourne. After losing all four finals since winning the 2021 premiership, coupled with their off-field dramas, it's a huge season for Simon Goodwin's Demons, who should still be very much in premiership contention with their list. Will the Suns finally make finals? Yes. The coach says finals is the floor, so let’s see them back it up. Brownlow Medal: Errol Gulden Coleman Medal: Charlie Curnow AFL Rising Star: George Wardlaw Recruit of the year: Lachie Schultz Surprise All-Australian: Keidean Coleman Who should headline the Grand Final entertainment? Foo Fighters Headline you'll see: Hugh McCluggage is the game's next million-dollar man Headline you won't see: Shutdown small defender selected in the All-Australian team (they're the new wingmen). Big call: We'll see our first non-Victorian Grand Final since West Coast and Sydney in 2006. Whiting's ladder prediction 1. Brisbane 2. Greater Western Sydney 3. Sydney 4. Collingwood 5. Carlton 6. Melbourne 7. Adelaide 8. Gold Coast 9. Port Adelaide 10. Fremantle 11. Western Bulldogs 12. Essendon 13. Geelong 14. St Kilda 15. Richmond 16. Hawthorn 17. North Melbourne 18. West Coast 1 1 Quote
buck_nekkid 6,101 Posted March 5, 2024 Posted March 5, 2024 All the experts can suck balls. All leaping off. If anything, we are better than last year. Not all teams can say that. 2 1 Quote
binman 44,824 Posted March 5, 2024 Posted March 5, 2024 (edited) Some interesting comments in that lot. I actually agree we are under pressure in terms of maximizing success with this list, and going out in two years in a straight sets. That is fair. But i would have thought that the Lions are under even more pressure on that front given that group, with the huge leg up of home games at the GABBA, has yet to win a flag and have only made one grand final. Not to mention their appalling record at the MCG. But pressure because of 'off-field dramas' palaver is such a nonsense, and the perfect example of the media creating a narrative and then shoe horning clubs into that narrative. Like clubs are monkeys and the media is the organ grinder. We have been very clear we have a strong culture. The way the club has dealt with the issues Clarry has faced is just one piece of evidence to back that claim up. Another is the number of key re-signings in the last 2-3 years, including Koz last year. Does anyone seriously think McAdam would have nominated the dees after wanting out from that cultural competency disaster zone at the crows without checking with Koz and/or other Aboriginal community members about the culture at the dees? Why should the media hysteria theatre create pressure for us to perform? Do we owe the media and the footy public something because of some confected 'off-field dramas'? What a load cobblers. The club doesn't need extrinsic motivators (though us against the world vibe might be of some help), no doubt their intrinsic desire to win another flag is motivation - and pressure - enough. Of the AFL journos, i really rate Twomey and Beveridge. So its no surprise that Twomey has the Lions under the most pressure. And i agree with Beveridge (and, shudder, Barrett's), that Suns (and the AFL too for that matter) given how much money they poured into the Suns) are under enormous pressure, particularly given Dimwit has all but promised finals. Edited March 5, 2024 by binman 3 1 Quote
Roger Mellie 4,205 Posted March 5, 2024 Posted March 5, 2024 The clowns at AFL Media have made their predictions, now it's your turn: Premier: Melbourne Runner-up: Brisbane Wooden spoon: West Coast Moving up: Hawthorn Set to fall: Geelong, oh wait.... Collingwood Club under the most pressure (and why): Dees, endless media attention, Gold Coast with Dimma talking finals Will the Suns finally make finals?: No Brownlow Medal: The Bont Coleman Medal: Nick Larkey AFL Rising Star: Ryley Sanders Recruit of the year: Brodie Grundy Surprise All-Australian: Kiddy Coleman Who should headline the Grand Final entertainment? Foo Fighters Headline you'll see: Melbourne's Culture - already a broken record Headline you won't see: No more gambling advertising 🥳 Big call: Petty turns back on Adelaide to extend contract with Dee's after kicking 64 goals for the season 🤞 Top 8 1. Brisbane 2. Melbourne 3. GWS 4. Collingwood - booo 5. Carlton 6. Sydney 7. Port 8. Adelaide 1 1 Quote
Roger Mellie 4,205 Posted March 5, 2024 Posted March 5, 2024 Sorry, just saw this thread after starting another one inviting predictions. Mods can chuck it if they see fit. Cheers 1 Quote
Monbon 1,840 Posted March 5, 2024 Posted March 5, 2024 Please keep in mind that the Predictors are mostly blokes and women who have not played afl, some of them, let alone footy. They all are asked to comment on things not even Cassandra or Nostradamus ever commented on. Some of them are hysterical Melbourne haters ( yes, I meant historical but my keypad kept changing it ) so who gives a flying can of duck what their mostly uneducated and biased opinions are?????? 1 Quote
Queanbeyan Demon 7,023 Posted March 5, 2024 Posted March 5, 2024 Thank goodness for the (sometime) sane voices on 'Land. Cos the media haven't a clue. 1 Quote
Roost it far 10,136 Posted March 5, 2024 Posted March 5, 2024 (edited) Melbourne 8.24.72 Brisbane 8.8.56 Norm Smith Christian Petracca Brownlow Christian Petracca Best Cook Christian Petracca Best Bloke Max Gawn Melbourne took till the 18 minute mark of the last quarter to kick their 3rd goal and then slammed on the last 5 to run over Brisbane with time running out. It was youngster Caleb Windsor who broke the Dee’s run of 9 straight behinds before Kozzie Pickett, Charlie Spargo and Clayton Oliver kicked the next 3 straight to put the Dee’s in front with superstar Christian Petracca bringing the house down with a 60 metre bomb with a minute remaining. Edited March 5, 2024 by Roost it far 1 1 1 2 Quote
At the break of Gawn 4,512 Posted March 5, 2024 Posted March 5, 2024 Damian Barrett having Geelong as Runners up is wild. Probably the most unhinged prediction I’ve seen. Considering we’ve gone out in straight sets twice as premiership favourites, it’ll be interesting to see how we go without some of the pressure. 3 1 Quote
monoccular 17,760 Posted March 5, 2024 Posted March 5, 2024 8 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said: Club under the most pressure (and why): Melbourne. The Demons haven't taken full advantage of their prime years. Ending two seasons of straight-sets exits will be a challenge after their pre-season setbacks. Nathan Shmuk - yes, disappointing not doing better in finals but please, Mr Shmuk, let me know which teams in the past have only been out of top 4 for 2 rounds over 3 consecutive seasons?. 1 1 Quote
Wodjathefirst 2,671 Posted March 5, 2024 Posted March 5, 2024 I love how we don’t feature highly with most pundits out there in media land. I can feel another 2021 coming on. GO DEES! 1 1 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted March 5, 2024 Posted March 5, 2024 Prediction. No prediction to get half of the predictions correct. 1 Quote
binman 44,824 Posted March 5, 2024 Posted March 5, 2024 https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/mar/05/afl-2024-predicted-ladder-part-two-collingwood-can-win-if-theyre-giant-killers?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other 1 Quote
binman 44,824 Posted March 5, 2024 Posted March 5, 2024 From above article by Jonathan Horne (whose analysis i often disagree with but really like) Sixth – Melbourne Melbourne has had six months of what-ifs. What if Caleb Marchbank had filed his fingernails. What if they’d lowered their eyes against Collingwood. What if Angus Brayshaw hadn’t been knocked out cold. What if Clayton Oliver wasn’t in disarray. What if they’d kicked straight. They let the Oliver story get out of control. Rather than take a hose to the fire, the strategy seemed to be to stand in front of it spraying the word “culture” dozens of times. In football, the word has been pulverised, made redundant. It’s the new “learnings”. Goodwin calls them a blue-collar team. They defend from the high ground. They patrol and gobble. They contest like angry ants. But their connection with their forwards needs tidying up. There’s too many blasters in that midfield. Get that right and keep Gawn in one piece, and this remarkably consistent side can challenge again. 1 Quote
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