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Anyone know if Foxtel are showing the match simulations (Melbourne V Richmond on 18 Feb) even though they are exclusively KAYO telecasts?

Last year the answer was yes, but not in 2022. 

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    28 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    Anyone know if Foxtel are showing the match simulations (Melbourne V Richmond on 18 Feb) even though they are exclusively KAYO telecasts?

    Last year the answer was yes, but not in 2022. 

    I saw a Foxtel ad last night saying Preseason footy starts on 18th Feb so I assume they will. 

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    15 hours ago, TheWiz said:

    I’m currently on $39 for Foxtel Plus and $25 for Sports HD. Big increase.

    Will have to balance the cost of living, or the Kayo buffering + a very unhappy partner!!

    Not disiminal 😬

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    Get ready for Hubbl in a couple of weeks (launch date 14 Feb)

    Not sure it delivers any benefit but it's the new Foxtel service to deliver Kayo and Binge. In reality it's designed to get you to put all your other subscriptions through it (Netflix, Disney etc). Bundling or "stacking" as it's often called is the new approach to maximising their $$$ returns. Other than one bill a month for all your streaming services it's unclear that it delivers much more. Perhaps a discount but no signs of that.

    The streaming industry is clearly in a state of flux with way too many players

    https://www.mediaweek.com.au/foxtels-hubbl-launch-binge-and-kayo-sports-accounts-moving-to-new-platform-in-february/

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    On 03/02/2024 at 13:33, Diamond_Jim said:

    Get ready for Hubbl in a couple of weeks (launch date 14 Feb)

    Not sure it delivers any benefit but it's the new Foxtel service to deliver Kayo and Binge. In reality it's designed to get you to put all your other subscriptions through it (Netflix, Disney etc). Bundling or "stacking" as it's often called is the new approach to maximising their $$$ returns. Other than one bill a month for all your streaming services it's unclear that it delivers much more. Perhaps a discount but no signs of that.

    The streaming industry is clearly in a state of flux with way too many players

    https://www.mediaweek.com.au/foxtels-hubbl-launch-binge-and-kayo-sports-accounts-moving-to-new-platform-in-february/

    After my experience last year DJ I doubt I will be back for more of the spinning arrow of death that accompanied any live game. 

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    1 hour ago, old dee said:

    After my experience last year DJ I doubt I will be back for more of the spinning arrow of death that accompanied any live game. 

    Did you watch though the Live Channels OD? I always do and rarely have any buffering issues.

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    3 hours ago, Clintosaurus said:

    Did you watch though the Live Channels OD? I always do and rarely have any buffering issues.

    Yes, on replays it was great even better picture quality. But live AFL it was poor. No problem I can live without it. I will miss F1. 

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    1 hour ago, old dee said:

    Yes, on replays it was great even better picture quality. But live AFL it was poor. No problem I can live without it. I will miss F1. 

    Do you have NBN fibre to the premises OD. If you have fibre to the node NBN will now upgrade you for free with a relatively short waiting time (1-2 months).

    This combined with making sure you have a good wifi distribution at home will see the ring disappear. The best system of wi fi extension these days is "Mesh".

    Those F1 timeslots make following that sport challenging

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    9 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    Do you have NBN fibre to the premises OD. If you have fibre to the node NBN will now upgrade you for free with a relatively short waiting time (1-2 months).

    This combined with making sure you have a good wifi distribution at home will see the ring disappear. The best system of wi fi extension these days is "Mesh".

    Those F1 timeslots make following that sport challenging

    DJ fibre to the house. Modem is in the room next door. Replays are great it is difficult to watch F1 without a streaming service these days. 

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    10 hours ago, old dee said:

    DJ fibre to the house. Modem is in the room next door. Replays are great it is difficult to watch F1 without a streaming service these days. 

    do you have a wired (ethernet) or wireless connection to the room next door?

    if wireless you could have a problem there despite the fast speed to the house

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    22 hours ago, old dee said:

    Yes, on replays it was great even better picture quality. But live AFL it was poor. No problem I can live without it. I will miss F1. 

    Do you chromecast to your tv or just use the Smart TV Kayo?

    I was chromecasting from a Galaxy S22 all last year and whenever the game was live I would get lags at the worst times but never on replays. Recently I decided to test another streaming method: my laptop and connecting to the tv with an HDMI cable. Watched the whole College Football National Championship (4 hrs) without a single lag or spinning arrow. 

    It's a real pain but sometimes you just have to try another method, if one is available of course. These services struggle to get functionality right on all devices, should be a lot better. 

     

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    14 hours ago, old dee said:

    DJ fibre to the house. Modem is in the room next door. Replays are great it is difficult to watch F1 without a streaming service these days. 

    Download a speed test app (they're free) to whatever you are using to watch (STB or TV) and check the speed. You're looking for a speed of 20 or greater.

    I suspect as Daisycutter mentions you are having intermittent short drop outs on your wi fi and thus the buffering. You won't get the buffering on replays or streaming movies etc as they are loading your cache with the show often five minutes in advance. Live sport is about 20 seconds of cache at most so you will notice any drop out.

    The good thing is that this is relatively easily fixed with a new router and a mesh satellite near your TV

    https://www.jbhifi.com.au/collections/computers-tablets/mesh-routers

    I have one of the more expensive Orbi systems which is great but I see JB Hi Fi has a good deal on an Eero system for $480. This includes the router and two satellites.

    (Without boring you Mesh involves the router and the satellites continually "talking" to each other whereas extenders are simply the router to the extender. Think spider webs which are much stronger than a single strand)

    PS: Layzie makes some good points. I use an Apple TV box and they are great

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    3 hours ago, layzie said:

    Do you chromecast to your tv or just use the Smart TV Kayo?

    I was chromecasting from a Galaxy S22 all last year and whenever the game was live I would get lags at the worst times but never on replays. Recently I decided to test another streaming method: my laptop and connecting to the tv with an HDMI cable. Watched the whole College Football National Championship (4 hrs) without a single lag or spinning arrow. 

    It's a real pain but sometimes you just have to try another method, if one is available of course. These services struggle to get functionality right on all devices, should be a lot better. 

     

    This Chromecast or the Chromecast with Google TV? (one with the apps etc).

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    On 18/01/2024 at 19:32, Queanbeyan Demon said:

    PayTV in Australia is an unmitigated disaster. Foxtel would be lucky to be worth AUD2B. Between Murdoch and Telstra, at least AUD100B has been flushed down the toilet over 27 odd years. Technically, it's a catastrophic. Former republics of the USSR have significantly superior technology and services than good ol' Australia. What an embarrassment that the AFL sell their soul to this pimple on the backside of the entertainment industry.

     

    Music to my ears

    The quicker that Murdoch scum is removed from this country, the better

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    2 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    Download a speed test app (they're free) to whatever you are using to watch (STB or TV) and check the speed. You're looking for a speed of 20 or greater.

    I suspect as Daisycutter mentions you are having intermittent short drop outs on your wi fi and thus the buffering. You won't get the buffering on replays or streaming movies etc as they are loading your cache with the show often five minutes in advance. Live sport is about 20 seconds of cache at most so you will notice any drop out.

    The good thing is that this is relatively easily fixed with a new router and a mesh satellite near your TV

    https://www.jbhifi.com.au/collections/computers-tablets/mesh-routers

    I have one of the more expensive Orbi systems which is great but I see JB Hi Fi has a good deal on an Eero system for $480. This includes the router and two satellites.

    (Without boring you Mesh involves the router and the satellites continually "talking" to each other whereas extenders are simply the router to the extender. Think spider webs which are much stronger than a single strand)

    PS: Layzie makes some good points. I use an Apple TV box and they are great

    assuming od is using wifi from tv to router .....

    an alternative would be to use a "powerline" connection. this is ethernet over your houses power points it works well where you can't run an ethernet cable to the router direct. you can get good high speeds now over powerline e.g. 2000 mbs.

    if you want to try it you just need 2 powerline units. one plugged near router and one plugged near tv. they are a complete unit the size of your fist which just sit in a power point. then run short ethernet cable to router on one and a short ethernet cable on other to the tv. also the one plugged to the router can support multiple remote powerlines,

    best bet would be to buy a second hand pair on marketplace. there are heaps advertised. look for something in range 1000 mps to 2000 mps. i bought a pair recently for about $50. you can also get a satellite one which in addition to having ethernet port(s) has a wifi gateway which might be useful for phone, ipad etc users if the normal wifi is weak at that place in the house.

    if od is interested i can help him source a pair

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    On 06/02/2024 at 12:14, roy11 said:

    This Chromecast or the Chromecast with Google TV? (one with the apps etc).

    Just regular chromecast plugged into a non smart TV. Casting straight from Kayo.

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    1 hour ago, whatwhat say what said:

    pertinent to some of the discussion herein: https://theathletic.com/5255840/2024/02/06/espn-fox-warner-sports-streaming-service/

    what will it mean for us in far flung oztraya? probably nothing with the various streamers tied to networks and our anti-siphoning...

    ...yet...

    Sounds like they're either bundling or wholesaling. It's the next round (Telstra's new product Hubbl is essentially a bundler).

    The real game changer if it ever comes will be worldwide rights. Region locking is fragmenting the world of streaming as is the number of would be players

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    3 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    Sounds like they're either bundling or wholesaling. It's the next round (Telstra's new product Hubbl is essentially a bundler).

    The real game changer if it ever comes will be worldwide rights. Region locking is fragmenting the world of streaming as is the number of would be players

    Effectively exists for American sports already - you can get nba, nfl, and mlb as standalone 

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    On 03/02/2024 at 13:33, Diamond_Jim said:

    Get ready for Hubbl in a couple of weeks (launch date 14 Feb)

    Not sure it delivers any benefit but it's the new Foxtel service to deliver Kayo and Binge. In reality it's designed to get you to put all your other subscriptions through it (Netflix, Disney etc). Bundling or "stacking" as it's often called is the new approach to maximising their $$$ returns. Other than one bill a month for all your streaming services it's unclear that it delivers much more. Perhaps a discount but no signs of that.

    The streaming industry is clearly in a state of flux with way too many players

    https://www.mediaweek.com.au/foxtels-hubbl-launch-binge-and-kayo-sports-accounts-moving-to-new-platform-in-february/

    Sounds like they are trying to launch something to compete with AppleTV/Google TV. I'm assuming it won't effect the existing Kayo/Binge apps.

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    16 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

     Sounds like they are trying to launch something to compete with AppleTV/Google TV. I'm assuming it won't effect the existing Kayo/Binge apps.

    it's a replacement of telstra tv, i assume - it'll be the same as the sky stream box, a puck device, that aggregates most (but probably not all) the streaming service options

    i use a telstra tv and it has foxtel, kayo, netflix, binge, paramount, apple, nba, nfl, etc. etc. as standalone apps that you download and use accordingly

     

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    notifications have gone out advising of the price rise and 4k switch - according to a friend of mine at the coalface, afl will be in true 4k as nep improved all cameras (e.g both those used by 7 and fox) last season

    however, the espn channels aren't being broadcast on 4k - just fs1-4 (cricket, nrl, whatever is shunted to 3, afl) and presumably any + channels that they run for overlap content

    really annoying that the nba in particular is higher quality on illegal streams (e.g. true 4k) than thru the kayo on 4k enabled tvs and add ons that use 4k like apple tv, telstra tv etc

    and, as per previous, it's not available on 4k in mobile apps and browsers

    an inferior product just keeps going up in price...

    Edited by whatwhat say what

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    18 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

    notifications have gone out advising of the price rise and 4k switch - according to a friend of mine at the coalface, afl will be in true 4k as nep improved all cameras (e.g both those used by 7 and fox) last season

    Yes.. others have reported that the price of digital memberships to AFL and NRL clubs went up by around $20-30 for the season.

    Looking forward to seeing the new product.

    Unfortunately the replays may be in the old format with reduced FPS. Hopefully not

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    If I buy as Armchair Membership how many people can access Kayo at the same time?  In other words, can I share it with a mate?

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    56 minutes ago, Slartibartfast said:

    If I buy as Armchair Membership how many people can access Kayo at the same time?  In other words, can I share it with a mate?

    I believe it comes with Kayo Basic plans, if so 2 users can stream/view at the same time. 

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