10 hours ago, Longsufferingnomore said:

Might be earlier than round 11.

I think that is now designated "mid year round", or "not round 12 yet round".

There is also a suggestion to rename it "the one after round 10 round".

I believe one of the AFL Commission want it named "the round before I go on my holidays round".

PS: I await the inevitable multiple further suggestions.

Edited February 29, 20241 yr by Redleg

8 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I think that is now designated "mid year round", or "not round 12 yet round".

There is also a suggestion to rename it "the one after round 10 round".

I believe one of the AFL Commission want it named "the round before I go on my holidays round".

PS: I await the inevitable multiple further suggestions.

"almost bali time round"

13 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I think that is now designated "mid year round", or "not round 12 yet round".

There is also a suggestion to rename it "the one after round 10 round".

I believe one of the AFL Commission want it named "the round before I go on my holidays round".

PS: I await the inevitable multiple further suggestions.

Probably the around about that round.

15 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I think that is now designated "mid year round", or "not round 12 yet round".

There is also a suggestion to rename it "the one after round 10 round".

I believe one of the AFL Commission want it named "the round before I go on my holidays round".

PS: I await the inevitable multiple further suggestions.

...the one after 9.09....

9 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

If we can net a month of solid footy from BBB, will give Petts enough time to get his foot/toe right hopefully. 

I would prefer us to give Shache a decent run of 3/4 games get his confidence up rucking the forward line 50/50 with Roo, and provides a tall target, as long as he competes, BBB can't last more than 3 games with his knees. Shache is still young enough and is a good kick. He won't cost us a game even if he plays poorly along as he doesn't get out marked so that's the key to his position in the team, also give petty plenty time to get ready and can play both ends when required 

1 hour ago, Rednblueriseing said:

I would prefer us to give Shache a decent run of 3/4 games get his confidence up rucking the forward line 50/50 with Roo, and provides a tall target, as long as he competes, BBB can't last more than 3 games with his knees. Shache is still young enough and is a good kick. He won't cost us a game even if he plays poorly along as he doesn't get out marked so that's the key to his position in the team, also give petty plenty time to get ready and can play both ends when required 

Agree with this. Schache looked decent against the Blues. Ruck can only improve, and if he finds some confidence and form, with 1-2 goals a game would be very handy and more than we probably contemplated. Bonus.

That said, Brown would be a huge win to have as cover until Petty and McAdam join the group. If we play him, honestly I would prefer we just plonk him forward and instruct NOT TO RUN beyond the arc - just take out a defender and bring the ball to ground. That alone, plus his quality kicks will probably yield sufficient return.  

Ultimately, we will need either/both giving us at least 2-3 goals to make sure we navigate a really tricky first month or so, when we are likely to miss at least Petty, and perhaps McAdam for a while.

2 hours ago, Redleg said:

I think that is now designated "mid year round", or "not round 12 yet round".

There is also a suggestion to rename it "the one after round 10 round".

I believe one of the AFL Commission want it named "the round before I go on my holidays round".

PS: I await the inevitable multiple further suggestions.

with the ridiculous round 0, anything is possible

minus 1 round. Carlton Collingwood playing on new year’s eve 

im not even fully joking either

SEN reported that the AFL has imposed a firm Tuesday 5:30pm(?) deadline for injury lists. It also must contain specific periods e.g., 4-6 weeks, to stop Geelong from going with “short term” etc. 

We should have a detailed injury list by next Tuesday night. 

6 hours ago, Neil Crompton said:

...the one after 9.09....

Another Beatles fan.

5 hours ago, Rednblueriseing said:

I would prefer us to give Shache a decent run of 3/4 games get his confidence up rucking the forward line 50/50 with Roo, and provides a tall target, as long as he competes, BBB can't last more than 3 games with his knees. Shache is still young enough and is a good kick. He won't cost us a game even if he plays poorly along as he doesn't get out marked so that's the key to his position in the team, also give petty plenty time to get ready and can play both ends when required 

He needs to get some aggression.

He is far too timid in his approach to the contest.

While a good kick, he will only mark it, if it is delivered lace out in front of him and we are not renowned for such good delivery.

Maybe with Salem and Billings better delivery he can be more productive.

 

From 6:50min

Harrison Petty - Want to set him up for the whole season still 2 weeks away

Lachie Hunter 3-4 weeks away

Shane McAdam - 2 weeks away

Updated injury list from information at Goody's presser.

	PLAYER	INJURY	LENGTH
	Kysaiah Pickett	Suspension	1 Week
	Shane McAdam	Calf	2 Weeks
	Harrison Petty	Toe	2 Weeks
	Lachie Hunter	Calf	3-4 Weeks
	Ben Brown	Knee	TBC
	Jake Melksham	ACL	TBC
	Charlie Spargo	Achilles	TBC
	Daniel Turner	Stress Fracture	6-8 Weeks

AFL orders clubs to stop ‘ridiculous’ tactic

The AFL has officially ordered clubs to end the ‘ridiculous’ tactic of labelling injuries as ‘short, medium or long term’, with expected return dates now required for the 2024 season.

Geelong, Richmond and Essendon were among those to come under fire from fans and broadcasters for the strategy.

But all clubs must now share its plans for matchday and mid-week injury updates with the AFL as the league enforces the swift and detailed release of information.

Criticism reached its peak midway through last year when dual premiership player David King said clubs — the Cats in particular — were “treating the fans like fools”.

The changes, initially outlined in the new collective bargaining agreement, were reiterated by the AFL with new details ahead of Opening Round and Round 1.

Clubs have been told to provide injury information “as soon as possible” on matchday.

A player’s status must be declared alongside specific details around the problem, such as left or right side of the body and noting, for example, AC joint for a shoulder issue.

Mid-week updates should also include that information — and, crucially, offer up the number of weeks until an injured player is expected to be available for selection.

“It is not permissible to provide general availability windows, ie short term, medium term, long term,” the AFL wrote in its 2024 policy document.

The shift has already become clear in Geelong’s injury reporting.

After injuries suffered in Round 5 last year required surgery, the Cats said Tyson Stengle (fractured left wrist) and Rhys Stanley (fractured right eye socket) were both out for the ‘medium term’.

But the ambiguity was on full show when Stengle returned in Round 10 while Stanley made his comeback in Round 15.

In a further sign of the discrepancy, Geelong skipper Patrick Dangerfield was ruled out for the ‘short term’ with a left hamstring strain sustained in Round 8.

Yet he went on to miss five games — the same number as Stengle with his ‘medium term’ injury.

Following the introduction of the new rules this year the Cats last week specified Cam Guthrie was “likely to miss 8-10 weeks”when he went down with a right quadricep tendon injury.

Clubs retain the ability to list an injured player’s return date as to be confirmed “if correct at the time ... but the status must be updated ASAP to a week-of-return timeline”.

Geelong’s tendencies came under fire last year.

“They want to massage the truth with all sorts of reporting, they don’t want to give up and extra information to opposition clubs, which is ridiculous,” King said on SEN.

“At the end of the day, the fans pay the price for that.

“The Geelong injury list is just ridiculous — the short term, medium term and long term. It’s always been 1-2 weeks, 3-4 weeks and five plus.

“And then when something goes wrong, they say ‘you’ve got to trust us, you’ve got to believe us when we tell you this’. Well, we haven’t been able to believe you for the previous five years so why do we have to believe you today?”

“Let’s just be done with all that stuff, you’re treating the fans like fools.”

The new policy arrived alongside details surrounding greater media access to players as agreed in the new CBA.

All players are to be made available, if requested by media, after matches and mid-week but “there is no realistic expectation” for all 23 players to attend a single session as a full group.

The revised requirements sparked questions around Dustin Martin’s response, given he is the most high-profile player who largely shuns the spotlight.

Fines of $10,000 for players and $20,000 for clubs are reportedly on the cards if requests are repeatedly rejected.

Personally I don't feel the need for endless 4-6 weeks and have no problem with short/long term. 

And as for ALL players being forced to see the media.- I hate that.    Imagine how that could affect a bloke going through some personal probems etc - getting asked all sorts of slimy questions so some self-styed journalist can big note themselves.

Edited March 5, 20241 yr by sue

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

AFL orders clubs to stop ‘ridiculous’ tactic

The AFL has officially ordered clubs to end the ‘ridiculous’ tactic of labelling injuries as ‘short, medium or long term’, with expected return dates now required for the 2024 season.

Geelong, Richmond and Essendon were among those to come under fire from fans and broadcasters for the strategy.

But all clubs must now share its plans for matchday and mid-week injury updates with the AFL as the league enforces the swift and detailed release of information.

Criticism reached its peak midway through last year when dual premiership player David King said clubs — the Cats in particular — were “treating the fans like fools”.

The changes, initially outlined in the new collective bargaining agreement, were reiterated by the AFL with new details ahead of Opening Round and Round 1.

Clubs have been told to provide injury information “as soon as possible” on matchday.

A player’s status must be declared alongside specific details around the problem, such as left or right side of the body and noting, for example, AC joint for a shoulder issue.

Mid-week updates should also include that information — and, crucially, offer up the number of weeks until an injured player is expected to be available for selection.

“It is not permissible to provide general availability windows, ie short term, medium term, long term,” the AFL wrote in its 2024 policy document.

The shift has already become clear in Geelong’s injury reporting.

After injuries suffered in Round 5 last year required surgery, the Cats said Tyson Stengle (fractured left wrist) and Rhys Stanley (fractured right eye socket) were both out for the ‘medium term’.

But the ambiguity was on full show when Stengle returned in Round 10 while Stanley made his comeback in Round 15.

In a further sign of the discrepancy, Geelong skipper Patrick Dangerfield was ruled out for the ‘short term’ with a left hamstring strain sustained in Round 8.

Yet he went on to miss five games — the same number as Stengle with his ‘medium term’ injury.

Following the introduction of the new rules this year the Cats last week specified Cam Guthrie was “likely to miss 8-10 weeks”when he went down with a right quadricep tendon injury.

Clubs retain the ability to list an injured player’s return date as to be confirmed “if correct at the time ... but the status must be updated ASAP to a week-of-return timeline”.

Geelong’s tendencies came under fire last year.

“They want to massage the truth with all sorts of reporting, they don’t want to give up and extra information to opposition clubs, which is ridiculous,” King said on SEN.

“At the end of the day, the fans pay the price for that.

“The Geelong injury list is just ridiculous — the short term, medium term and long term. It’s always been 1-2 weeks, 3-4 weeks and five plus.

“And then when something goes wrong, they say ‘you’ve got to trust us, you’ve got to believe us when we tell you this’. Well, we haven’t been able to believe you for the previous five years so why do we have to believe you today?”

“Let’s just be done with all that stuff, you’re treating the fans like fools.”

The new policy arrived alongside details surrounding greater media access to players as agreed in the new CBA.

All players are to be made available, if requested by media, after matches and mid-week but “there is no realistic expectation” for all 23 players to attend a single session as a full group.

The revised requirements sparked questions around Dustin Martin’s response, given he is the most high-profile player who largely shuns the spotlight.

Fines of $10,000 for players and $20,000 for clubs are reportedly on the cards if requests are repeatedly rejected.

Kinda ironic that David King loses it over this, saying it treats the fans like fools, when he simultaneously defends Fox broadcasting games from a studio.

Shane McAdam TBC....bit ominous

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/1500199/injury-report-a-duo-of-demons-available?fbclid=PAAaYAD2Gy7nUtJs0XD06VuXYe5vyn7exEWGLw7kz5o99SX4ahPr6pvl24Ekc_aem_AYmURj24KYArGJyQAQvgFnrL0gS94af2KjW5y6m3uVttCivWIKdlQ8r8mAfX9M-xi5Q
 

Brown and Spargo available. 

Petty 2 weeks. Hunter 3-4 weeks. 

McAdam TBC (hamstring, not calf).

22 hours ago, Demonland said:

Updated injury list from information at Goody's presser.

	PLAYER	INJURY	LENGTH
	Kysaiah Pickett	Suspension	1 Week
	Shane McAdam	Calf	2 Weeks
	Harrison Petty	Toe	2 Weeks
	Lachie Hunter	Calf	3-4 Weeks
	Ben Brown	Knee	TBC
	Jake Melksham	ACL	TBC
	Charlie Spargo	Achilles	TBC
	Daniel Turner	Stress Fracture	6-8 Weeks

If you list Kozzy as being out suspended then you should list Joel Smith as well. He hasn’t been delisted, after all.

Name     Injury     Expected Return
Ben Brown      Knee     Available
Charlie Spargo     Achilles     Available
Harrison Petty     Toe     2 weeks
Lachie Hunter     Calf     3 - 4 weeks
Daniel Turner      Hip     7 - 8 weeks
Shane McAdam     Hamstring     TBC
Jake Melksham      Knee     TBC

31 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/1500199/injury-report-a-duo-of-demons-available?fbclid=PAAaYAD2Gy7nUtJs0XD06VuXYe5vyn7exEWGLw7kz5o99SX4ahPr6pvl24Ekc_aem_AYmURj24KYArGJyQAQvgFnrL0gS94af2KjW5y6m3uVttCivWIKdlQ8r8mAfX9M-xi5Q
 

Brown and Spargo available. 

Petty 2 weeks. Hunter 3-4 weeks. 

McAdam TBC (hamstring, not calf).

What looked like a looming disaster a couple of weeks ago hasn't come up too badly...

Not bad considering. 

Petty 2 weeks is great! McAdam TBC (and hamstring, not calf?!) is concerning.

Anyway, we have a pretty first month or so, it would be great to have as many at our disposal as possible. 

 

31 minutes ago, Red But Mostly Blue said:

Not bad considering. 

Petty 2 weeks is great! McAdam TBC (and hamstring, not calf?!) is concerning.

Anyway, we have a pretty first month or so, it would be great to have as many at our disposal as possible. 

 

That could be something new which is a worry. He was running very well on Saturday. At one stage when he was resting he was poking at his calf and I assumed if he was just feeling around to see how it felt. Nothing in what I observed indicated any hamstring awareness.

If this is a new injury then I have a feeling he will be a player that unfortunately spends more time on the sidelines than on the field.

First VFL match is 3 weeks away. What do we do with TMac Spargo and BBB in the meantime

There's often a VFL pre season match that might help

McAdam could be our new 4-6

52 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

First VFL match is 3 weeks away. What do we do with TMac Spargo and BBB in the meantime

There's often a VFL pre season match that might help

McAdam could be our new 4-6

There is a VFL practice match on Friday the 8th March and then one of Saturday the 16th of March. Both at Casey.