He's not playing well but I think there are good enough reasons for it to warrant persisting longer.

He is a confidence player but is at I think 1.5 from set shots. I suspect if he had nailed a few more of his set shots earlier, he'd be feeling better about himself.

He also isn't fit enough but I suspect the FD think he'll get that fitness just as quickly in the seniors than anywhere else.

I can't deal with the "swap TMac and Petty" stuff though. TMac's looked great in the backline so far this year and looked awful in the forward line last year. Robbing Peter to (potentially) pay Paul isn't the answer.

Those thinking that Petty will be dropped are way out of touch with reality 

4 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

He's not playing well but I think there are good enough reasons for it to warrant persisting longer.

He is a confidence player but is at I think 1.5 from set shots. I suspect if he had nailed a few more of his set shots earlier, he'd be feeling better about himself.

He also isn't fit enough but I suspect the FD think he'll get that fitness just as quickly in the seniors than anywhere else.

I can't deal with the "swap TMac and Petty" stuff though. TMac's looked great in the backline so far this year and looked awful in the forward line last year. Robbing Peter to (potentially) pay Paul isn't the answer.

If hes not performing he needs to be dropped. Cant have Shache, Fullarton et all playing well and being continually ignored

Question is about his foot really doesn't seem to be moving like he was against the roos in 23.

• Is he 100% healthy?
• Is he playing still sore?
• Will it do more damage?

Otherwise play him, we have a lot of options specially with a sub.

 

1 hour ago, M_9 said:

Of the Cat’s back six the only two players IMO that could match Harrison would be Stewart and Tuohy. I doubt he’d be playing on either. If he can’t beat Holmes, Guthrie, Henry or SdK he does not deserve to be in the seniors.

Similarly the Blues have a very ordinary back six save for Weitering and Williams.

Am I reading this right? If he can’t beat Holmes, he doesn’t deserve to be in the side. Why would a wingman be matched on Petty? 

Edited April 26, 20241 yr by Dee Zephyr

1 hour ago, M_9 said:

Of the Cat’s back six the only two players IMO that could match Harrison would be Stewart and Tuohy. I doubt he’d be playing on either. If he can’t beat Holmes, Guthrie, Henry or SdK he does not deserve to be in the seniors.

Similarly the Blues have a very ordinary back six save for Weitering and Williams.

And who played on him on Wednesday, he isn’t winning much of it regardless of who is on him 

Edited April 26, 20241 yr by Garbo

46 minutes ago, DemonSam said:

Question is about his foot really doesn't seem to be moving like he was against the roos in 23.

• Is he 100% healthy?
• Is he playing still sore?
• Will it do more damage?

Otherwise play him, we have a lot of options specially with a sub.

 

That is certainly my concern. Watched him closely when away from play and during breaks. He walks like an old man, and I should know! 🧑‍🦯

1 hour ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Am I reading this right? If he can’t beat Holmes, he doesn’t deserve to be in the side. Why would a wingman be matched on Petty? 

I haven’t seen much of the Cats. I looked at where Holmes has been named. Rounds 1 and 2 wing. Round 3 F. Rounds 4,5,6 and 7 HB. Petty has been playing HF.

1 hour ago, Garbo said:

And who played on him on Wednesday, he isn’t winning much of it regardless of who is on him 

Miller played on Petty. Miller had 9. 7 and 5. (disposals, marks, tackles).. Petty had 6,3 and 1.

i watched Petty closely as I don’t believe he’ll ever make a forward. He was lost. Miller dragged up the ground at every opportunity. Petty’s best game post round 20 (6 goals) was round 2 v Hawks when he had 12,9 and 1 playing as a back man.

He's devoid of confidence and doesn't seem to be the type of character to tough it out in the one's (could be wrong on that).

I trust the FD and i understand the valid arguments about structure, but he strikes me as someone who would be better served playing in the twos to regain confidence rather than in the limelight (hope i'm wrong and he kicks 3 against the Cats).

1 hour ago, Palace Dees said:

That is certainly my concern. Watched him closely when away from play and during breaks. He walks like an old man, and I should know! 🧑‍🦯

I think he is gone with injury, if we are smart, ....... well need I say more!

3 hours ago, Billy said:

There is no way he’d beat SdK or Henry one on one at the moment, they’re both very good backmen & Holmes & Guthrie would run off him all night long, no way sorry

 

I said if Petty couldn’t beat any of the Cat’s four less experienced back man he didn’t deserve a spot.
On current form I agree with you - he wouldn’t beat any of them.

4 hours ago, picket fence said:

If hes not performing he needs to be dropped. Cant have Shache, Fullarton et all playing well and being continually ignored

As to Schache, yes we can. We’ve seen enough of him at senior level to know he’s not the answer. 

As to Fullarton, we need to see more at VFL level. If he keeps up his recent form and Petty doesn’t improve, then sure, the pressure will come. 

5 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

He's not playing well but I think there are good enough reasons for it to warrant persisting longer.

He is a confidence player but is at I think 1.5 from set shots. I suspect if he had nailed a few more of his set shots earlier, he'd be feeling better about himself.

He also isn't fit enough but I suspect the FD think he'll get that fitness just as quickly in the seniors than anywhere else.

I can't deal with the "swap TMac and Petty" stuff though. TMac's looked great in the backline so far this year and looked awful in the forward line last year. Robbing Peter to (potentially) pay Paul isn't the answer.

The Swap is that Petty is a higher quality back, and Tmac is a level above Petty as a forward. So it’s a no brainer. 

What position did he play against Richmond? He looked lost. To the backline to find form. Or play him deep forward. 

12 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

As to Schache, yes we can. We’ve seen enough of him at senior level to know he’s not the answer. 

As to Fullarton, we need to see more at VFL level. If he keeps up his recent form and Petty doesn’t improve, then sure, the pressure will come. 

Injury permitting, he'll come good before it gets to this IMO.

11 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

What position did he play against Richmond? He looked lost. To the backline to find form. Or play him deep forward. 

The start of the firsy quarter he was playing as a roaming CHF which I don't think is his strength.

Few times earlier in that quarter he got onto a few long leads towards the wing and unfortunately we tried to honour him but butchered the kick instead. 

After that he looked gas for the rest of the game.

16 hours ago, picket fence said:

I think he is gone with injury, if we are smart, ....... well need I say more!

If you read Tmacs comments about his injury it's taken him a good 12 months or more to get back to how he's playing at the moment.

Exceptionally limited preseason.

Selected to play AFL on the back of zero VFL form and lack of preparation.

Head-scratching selection decision.

Will turn it around.  

38 minutes ago, Gator said:

Exceptionally limited preseason.

Selected to play AFL on the back of zero VFL form and lack of preparation.

Head-scratching selection decision.

Will turn it around.  

That's how highly they rate him and how important he is to the structure. 

Agree, he will turn it around.

14 hours ago, KingDingAling said:

The Swap is that Petty is a higher quality back, and Tmac is a level above Petty as a forward. So it’s a no brainer. 

It's not necessarily true that in 2024 Petty is a higher quality back than TMac.

It's also not necessarily true that in 2024 TMac is a level above Petty as a forward. 

But what's clear to me is that TMac has been part of our yet-again-competition-leading elite defence for the last 6 games. It's not worth disrupting just to try to get Petty more into the game.

4 hours ago, Gator said:

Exceptionally limited preseason.

Selected to play AFL on the back of zero VFL form and lack of preparation.

Head-scratching selection decision.

Will turn it around.  

Im not at all confident that

A He's fit

B He will turn it around

On 26/04/2024 at 17:47, picket fence said:

If hes not performing he needs to be dropped. Cant have Shache, Fullarton et all playing well and being continually ignored

We can and should ignore Schache

19 hours ago, picket fence said:

Im not at all confident that

A He's fit

B He will turn it around

Im not sure his fitness is an issue. He seems to be running well and getting to contests. I think the issue is confidence. Or that he's just much better at defending which I think is an easier role.

I think we persist with Petty. You need absolute competitors up forward in finals. Finals tend to bring heaps more pressure on the ball carrier, and at times we may need to just bomb it in long to gain territory. Petty, at his best, is a fantastic contested mark and is someone who could have one of those nights to turn a game.