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  On 27/09/2023 at 07:42, Deespicable said:

Now all into luring Nick Larkey from Kangas.

With cap space created by Grundy/Harmes/Brown, will sign him on mega four-year deal worth $4M.

He’s already signed a million a year 7 year deal with North recently. He can’t tear that up for an inferior contract. We’d have to take that contract on, which we’d gladly do if it was an option. It’s not. Larkey is staying put. Even if he suddenly wanted out after signing a huge deal recently, North wouldn’t let him walk and would demand every pick we have plus more. It’s fantasy and we need to chase realistic options.

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      On 27/09/2023 at 07:56, Lord Travis said:

    He’s already signed a million a year 7 year deal with North recently. He can’t tear that up for an inferior contract. We’d have to take that contract on, which we’d gladly do if it was an option. It’s not. Larkey is staying put. Even if he suddenly wanted out after signing a huge deal recently, North wouldn’t let him walk and would demand every pick we have plus more. It’s fantasy and we need to chase realistic options.

    Well said.

    Not sure why there's so much talk about Larkey on here. He made noises about being a one club player and signed a huge deal with the roos just a few months ago. 

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    These fantasy trades just aren’t going to happen. I think we are stuck with our existing list and if everyone is fit for 2024, can I just say if we can’t construct winning scores from a set up involving Petty, JVR, Fritsch, Smith, Kossie, McAdam, Chandler, ANB and Tracc, there is a serious coaching problem. Especially if with our great hand in the draft we could pull in a couple of mids who have elite kicking skills and also like to run forward and kick the odd goal. 

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      On 21/09/2023 at 06:02, Its Time for Another said:

    I seem to be on my pat malone on this but the treatment of Schache this year has been one of the season's mysteries for me. He was never given a chance. He is exactly the type of player we have needed at various stages during the season but was never really given a chance. I would have at least given him a couple of decent games so he could settle in to the system a bit and see if he could deliver. He was brought on for 10 minutes as the sub a few rounds ago and then the final was an utter debacle. How could he not have been worth a try compared to T Mac. There was nothing to lose. Obviously they don't rate him but at least give the guy a go, especially in the circumstances this season. I'd hate to get treated that way by my Boss in a job and stay happy and focused. 

    In a contest you don’t need to shoulder him aside you just breathe heavily to knock him sideways 

    the reason is he weighs 94 kgs

    ollie wines weighs 94 kgs! Ish 

    ruckmen weigh plus 100

    so he has limited scope to chop out and he has shown little as a KPF even though we had pretty mint supply to the fwd line at Casey 

    Edited by dino rover
    Typo

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      On 27/09/2023 at 07:55, samcantstandya said:

    It will have to happen with another player as Spargo is a required player and won't be released.

    Thst can be changed at the drop of a contract quite easily. 

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    Jaiden Hunter from Essendon worth a 2 year deal?

    Kicked goals in the wafl, got drafted mid year, kicked 4 in his second game then out with a back injury.

    Essendon yet to offer him a deal. 

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      On 27/09/2023 at 10:22, Earl Hood said:

    These fantasy trades just aren’t going to happen. I think we are stuck with our existing list and if everyone is fit for 2024, can I just say if we can’t construct winning scores from a set up involving Petty, JVR, Fritsch, Smith, Kossie, McAdam, Chandler, ANB and Tracc, there is a serious coaching problem. Especially if with our great hand in the draft we could pull in a couple of mids who have elite kicking skills and also like to run forward and kick the odd goal. 

    Besides young draftees if we are serious about making a grand final in the next 2 years we need a key forward, can't rely on JVR and Petty so much, 1 more tall forward who can kick 2 goals a game and we're set. Don't know who's available but even a mature ager similar to Mihocek

    Forget about BBB, Or Tmac they have given all they got.

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      On 28/09/2023 at 05:55, DeeSpencer said:

    Jaiden Hunter from Essendon worth a 2 year deal?

    Kicked goals in the wafl, got drafted mid year, kicked 4 in his second game then out with a back injury.

    Essendon yet to offer him a deal. 

    If he's not good enough for Essendon when they're already relying on Weideman, then can't see how he'd be good enough for us!

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      On 28/09/2023 at 06:08, Lord Travis said:

    If he's not good enough for Essendon when they're already relying on Weideman, then can't see how he'd be good enough for us!

    Essendon apparently will offer him a one year deal but seem to be dragging their feet. Hawthorn just waltzed in and got Massimo D’Ambrosio who I think is a beauty. 

    We got to try someone!

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      On 28/09/2023 at 08:17, DeeSpencer said:

    Essendon apparently will offer him a one year deal but seem to be dragging their feet. Hawthorn just waltzed in and got Massimo D’Ambrosio who I think is a beauty. 

    We got to try someone!

    picks and chooses when to work defensively

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      On 20/09/2023 at 02:20, BaliDemon said:

    If Lynch is deemed too expensive then for me Casboult is the solid cut price alternative from that list. 

    He is certainly durable. Played 41 games for the Suns over the past two seasons. 60 goals (35 last year, 25 this year). Big brute of a lad, 200cm, could provide ruck relief for Gawn. 

    Much prefer Lynch though. 

    It’s a no on Chol for me. Hardwick shopping him out of two clubs says a fair bit about what he thinks of his application and attitude. 

    Did both clubs “shop him out” or did / does Chol not want to play under Hardwick?

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      On 28/09/2023 at 02:23, dino rover said:

    In a contest you don’t need to shoulder him aside you just breathe heavily to knock him sideways 

    the reason is he weighs 94 kgs

    ollie wines weighs 94 kgs! Ish 

    ruckmen weigh plus 100

    so he has limited scope to chop out and he has shown little as a KPF even though we had pretty mint supply to the fwd line at Casey 

    So one has to wonder why the hell was he named, then never used, as sub in a cutthroat semi final when our other tall forward wasn’t delivering anything much?  Absolute mystery. 

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      On 19/09/2023 at 23:40, KingDingAling said:

    JVR, Petty, and Jefferson. We will be fine next year. Just this year we were stiff with injury with Petty.

    We were still good enough, unfortunately (as we all know) inaccuracy killed us.

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      On 27/09/2023 at 07:21, Mach5 said:

    Having a look over playing lists, there’s a few that seem to have excess tall forwards.
    Looking for a bargain...

    StK - Cooper Sharman?

    Coll - Ash Johnson?

    GCS - Burgess? Chol the obvious option. McLaughlin?

    Adel - Fogarty? Gollant?

    WBD - O’Brien? 

    Port - Lord? Scully?

    Haw - Ramadan?

    Freo - Corbett? Treacy? Kuek?

    I’d take Fogarty for the right price if he’s available. Very good set shot so improves us straight away.

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      On 28/09/2023 at 12:13, BDA said:

    I’d take Fogarty for the right price if he’s available. Very good set shot so improves us straight away.

    Not sure he helps our groundball game and is a little undersized for a KPF.

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      On 28/09/2023 at 12:35, Binmans PA said:

    Not sure he helps our groundball game and is a little undersized for a KPF.

    He is a little short side.

    Not sure there are many KPF who are good on the deck but he contests, marks and kicks straight. More important traits in a forward in my book.

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      On 28/09/2023 at 11:25, monoccular said:

    So one has to wonder why the hell was he named, then never used, as sub in a cutthroat semi final when our other tall forward wasn’t delivering anything much?  Absolute mystery. 

    I agree

    i would have thought Grundy the better option but what would I know?

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      On 28/09/2023 at 20:02, BDA said:

    He is a little short side.

    Not sure there are many KPF who are good on the deck but he contests, marks and kicks straight. More important traits in a forward in my book.

    Naughton is excellent at ground level, but Fogarty is a beautiful kick.

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      On 27/09/2023 at 07:55, samcantstandya said:

    It will have to happen with another player as Spargo is a required player and won't be released.

    Not sure about that he struggled to get a senior game for a large part of this year.

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      On 27/09/2023 at 07:55, samcantstandya said:

    It will have to happen with another player as Spargo is a required player and won't be released.

    I think he would if we got a very good offer.

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    Don’t know why we would let a good ball user like spargo go when we’re short of good ball users as it is 

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      On 29/09/2023 at 01:18, BDA said:

    Don’t know why we would let a good ball user like spargo go when we’re short of good ball users as it is 

    We're not letting him go.

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      On 29/09/2023 at 01:18, BDA said:

    Don’t know why we would let a good ball user like spargo go when we’re short of good ball users as it is 

    He doesn’t get it often enough. 

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      On 29/09/2023 at 01:36, old dee said:

    He doesn’t get it often enough. 

    10 possessions a game he averages over 7 seasons. You need to be Cyril Rioli good to be effective with those numbers. And Cyril Rioli he 'aint. Spargo doesn't hit the scoreboard enough either.

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      On 29/09/2023 at 02:01, BaliDemon said:

    10 possessions a game he averages over 7 seasons. You need to be Cyril Rioli good to be effective with those numbers. And Cyril Rioli he 'aint. Spargo doesn't hit the scoreboard enough either.

    How many would he average if our half backs ran and kicked the ball to the fat side and then to Charlie streaming open at half forward? He’d go from 10 to 15 very quickly. 

    I also don’t care how many goals he kicks if he lands the ball on a forwards chest inside 40 and within the corridor 2-3 times a game.

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