The 2023 Draft and Trade Targets Thread

[spirit of norm smith 13,277]

Started with 5*, 13, 25*, 33 (2x 1st round and 2x second round).
*Freo picks from Jackson trade. 

then… 

- Jordon Free agent to Sydney -> Compo end of second round (39)

- Harmes trade to Bulldogs-> 2024 future WB3rd rd 

- Grundy trade to Sydney-> 3rd rd pick 46 and 2024 future Syd2nd rd 

- draft picks 14,27,35 to GC Suns -> Pick 11 

Dees now hold picks 6, 11, 41, 46 …and the two extra future 2024 second rounder and third rounder picks. 
 

Imv there is still more afl sudoku puzzles to come !!! 

[Demon Disciple 11,089]

56 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

 Imv there is still more afl sudoku puzzles to come !!! 

I hate sudoku

[spirit of norm smith 13,277]

Hibbo retired.  Dunstan retired. Deakyn Smith (r) delisted.  
 

Started with 5*, 13, 25*, 33 (2x 1st round and 2x second round).
*Freo picks from Jackson trade. 

then… 

OUT- Jordon Free agent to Sydney -> Compo end of second round (39)

OUT- Harmes trade to Bulldogs-> 2024 future WB3rd rd 

OUT- Grundy trade to Sydney-> 3rd rd pick 46 and 2024 future Syd2nd rd 

OUT - draft picks 14,27,35 to GC Suns

IN -> Pick 11 

IN ->Tom Fullerton -> MFC 2023 draft pick 46 to Lions 

IN -> Shane McAdam > MFC 2024 2nd round draft 

Dees now hold 2023 picks 6, 11, 42

Dees still hold their future 2024 1st and 2nd round picks and 2 x third round picks  (incl one tied to the dogs)

 

 

[Dee tention 611]

Sounds like Petty is keen to go. I’m happy to keep him to his contract  because he is a very good player and is important to our structure. However, his foot is a concern long term.
 

Dees should be asking for Pick 10, 14 and Gollant at a minimum. 

or Pick 10, Adelaide F1 and Gollant. 
 

These additional picks would help net us Pick 1 from West Toast I would think… Or move down the order and nab Norths Pick 3 as well as keeping Pick 6. 
 

Edited October 18, 2023 by Dee tention

[Dee tention 611]

Would this work…? 

Melbourne

IN - Pick 7, 10 and Cadman

OUT - Petty, Pick 11, F2

Adelaide 

IN - Petty and 43 (GWS)

OUT - Picks 10, 14, Himmelberg

GWS 

IN - Pick 11, 14, F2 (Melb/Syd), Himmelberg

OUT - Pick 7, Cadman, 43 

 

[Mickey 4,193]

Even the AFL are bored

 

 

[DistrACTION Jackson 6,522]

6 minutes ago, Mickey said:

Even the AFL are bored

 

 

Gil on the phone *I won't have my last trade period turn into a non-event. Give me trades, trades and more trades. I'm offering a $500k bonus to the first side to trade a 1top 10 bnf player.

[Redleg 37,930]

6 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Gil on the phone *I won't have my last trade period turn into a non-event. Give me trades, trades and more trades. I'm offering a $500k bonus to the first side to trade a 1top 10 bnf player.

Gil is gone.

[deelusions from afar 1,619]

14 minutes ago, Dee tention said:

Would this work…? 

Melbourne

IN - Pick 7, 10 and Cadman

OUT - Petty, Pick 11, F2

Adelaide 

IN - Petty and 43 (GWS)

OUT - Picks 10, 14, Himmelberg

GWS 

IN - Pick 11, 14, F2 (Melb/Syd), Himmelberg

OUT - Pick 7, Cadman, 43 

 

I may have egg on my face at the end of the day but I can't see how the MFC would trade Petty this trade period.  He's arguably our most important player next year if he's able to reproduce the kind of form he was in prior to getting injured.

 

The trade scenario is creative but I think that's overvaluing Himmelberg - GWS paid so much to get pick 1 (Cadman) last year, can't see them giving up on him after 1 year.  Seems a lot for Adelaide to be paying for Petty (from our perspective he's worth all of that - but that's because he can play positions in our team that we have no one else as backup)

[Demon Dynasty 15,869]

Not a huge diff but MAYBE (with our HP & development side kicking in) a marginal upgrade with more potential upside ... why did we we go for Fullarton over Koschitzkea.

Both have struggled but Jacob seems to at least lead / mark strongly.  Decent length to his kick and doesn't seem to mind the contested side.

Would've also come cheap.

[Demon Dynasty 15,869]

4 hours ago, deelusions from afar said:

I may have egg on my face at the end of the day but I can't see how the MFC would trade Petty this trade period.  He's arguably our most important player next year if he's able to reproduce the kind of form he was in prior to getting injured.

 

The trade scenario is creative but I think that's overvaluing Himmelberg - GWS paid so much to get pick 1 (Cadman) last year, can't see them giving up on him after 1 year.  Seems a lot for Adelaide to be paying for Petty (from our perspective he's worth all of that - but that's because he can play positions in our team that we have no one else as backup)

You won't DW!

[layzie 29,539]

51 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Not a huge diff but MAYBE (with our HP & development side kicking in) a marginal upgrade with more potential upside ... why did we we go for Fullarton over Koschitzkea.

Both have struggled but Jacob seems to at least lead / mark strongly.  Decent length to his kick and doesn't seem to mind the contested side.

Would've also come cheap.

I was also a bit surprised. Decent overhead, haven't seen Fullerton do much in that area. 

[Jibroni 4,199]

Esava has been traded from the Scum to the ferals:

 

 

[Redleg 37,930]

19 minutes ago, Jibroni said:

Esava has been traded from the Scum to the ferals:

 

 

Well obviously those great picks 76 and 94 have made all the difference.

Does Mackie feel like a winner now, imo he looks foolish.

[Nascent 7,406]

6, 11, 42 and future 1st. Will be interesting to see what these picks turn into next month.

[Demonland 66,183]

 

[Nascent 7,406]

8 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Everyone looks weird and ugly

[Demon Disciple 11,089]

Was GWS involved in any sort of trade at all?

Not a criticism, just a little odd.

[spirit of norm smith 13,277]

In: Shane McAdam, Tom Fullarton, Jack Billings, pick 11, 42, a future second-round draft pick, and a future third-round draft pick.

Out: James Jordon, James Harmes, Brodie Grundy, pick 14, 27, 35, a future second and third-round pick. 
 

Draft picks 6,11,42 

[Ted Lasso 17,052]

29 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

In: Shane McAdam, Tom Fullarton, Jack Billings, pick 11, 42, a future second-round draft pick, and a future third-round draft pick.

Out: James Jordon, James Harmes, Brodie Grundy, pick 14, 27, 35, a future second and third-round pick. 
 

Draft picks 6,11,42 

In: about 1 million in cap space, 3 players who fill clear needs and have significant upside, a strong draft hand with two of the top 10 live picks. 

Tim Lamb is a master of the trade period 

[Redleg 37,930]

44 minutes ago, Dwight Schrute said:

In: about 1 million in cap space, 3 players who fill clear needs and have significant upside, a strong draft hand with two of the top 10 live picks. 

Tim Lamb is a master of the trade period 

With BBB, Tom Mac, Tomlinson and Melk likely to finish with us in 2024, we are probably banking another $2m in salary cap space.

[hillie 41]

something that’s been bugging me as I'm not 100% across the list rules and ability for teams to stockpile picks for players that are bid on.

I note gc and dogs have 10 picks each to match academy and father son. I was of the impression you could only have as many picks as you have list spots available. Does this mean that after delistings, retirements and trades that both those teams have a few players that remain unsigned to fulfil this requirement and following the the draft they are then re signed?
 

Does the gold coast still have the concession of a larger possible list size they were granted as part of the list concessions a few years ago?

is there an opportunity to scour these lists and pry one out as a delisted free agent as if you are uncontracted after the draft you can delist yourself and sign where you like before list lodgements?

I’m not sure who’d be available but if the list rules are as i think they are, it’d be worth investigating.

 

 

 

 

Edited October 18, 2023 by hillie

[hillie 41]

4 minutes ago, Redleg said:

With BBB, Tom Mac, Tomlinson and Melk likely to finish with us in 2024, we are probably banking another $2m in salary cap space.

Definitely gives some room for a big fish. Who are the free agents of 2024? Im thinking we are every chance not to have a first round pick after this trade period so free agency could be good for us. HP might mean we get one from adelaide if he requests and we relent next year.

[spirit of norm smith 13,277]

Three punts on fringe types who could be valuable or could be wasted additions.  Time will tell.  Let’s hope for the best.  

[dee-tox 4,829]

So we are left with three draft picks now? (6, 11 and 42)? And how many rookie spots are left?

Assume we take Pup Brown at 42?