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On 7/31/2023 at 4:15 PM, hemingway said:

The much recommended book Between The Flags by Ian Munro provides many examples of the wheeling and dealing of recruiters during the 70s and 80s. 

I bought this recently, haven't got to the 70s & 80s yet ... good reading so far 👍

 
9 hours ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

It may be Luci that while there, you can solve the perennial mystery of what is under a Scotsman's kilt.

A Scot mate of mine is known for doing handstands on New Years Eve while wearing his kilt, I always avert my gaze but this one time I was traumatized for days. There are some things you just cannot unsee.

On 7/31/2023 at 3:57 PM, poita said:

I must have missed the email Poita? 

I never heard this as reliable information when he was drafted or asked for a release. 

To be honest the Scully saga  was not a lot different in that he decided once here about halfway through he wanted out ( due entirely to the monster GWS offer to both himself and father). 

But you are stating that he  NEVER wanted to come and let this be known to The Kangas before the draft. A Club if that was so has to make a decision and get most things right. 

JHF clearly did not respect the NMFC by his actions and deceit and single  mindedness and as he fought defiantly to get out of the Club it would appear.

Doesn't make the Club wrong IMO in selecting him as he has been the only No 1 can recall other than Scully who fought the system. 

It's two bottom Clubs with a potentially poor future at the time that have been in this situation. But thankfully both are outliers not the norm in the AFL draft system. 

Eonder if we had chosen Nic Nat instead of Wattsy would he have done any thing like this, 

Really Jacko did this in a way but stayed a bit longer and got the premiership spoils!! Maybe he wont get that  at Freo ?  Time alone will tell. 

 

 

 
16 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Thank you.

Glasgow is new for me so seeking out its quirky spots.  And its the easiest way to get to the wedding in Ayrshire.  

For a decent whisky you may need to visit Scotland!🙂

Whilst there are a lot there for sure, Japan has some amazing whisky and one of the absolute best imo is Hellyers Rd from Tassie.

On 8/1/2023 at 8:10 PM, Diamond_Jim said:

that's a good discussion point and relevant to teams like MFC ever catching the big boys.

There is no doubt that North of old were an entertaining and successful team. Why did they not catch on whereas Hawthorn did ? Was it simply the weight of premiership numbers or was there something else

Believe it or not some of what makes clubs now big or otherwise has to do with Melbourne's geography. Richmond was not a wildly successful club early in the competition when Collingwood was racking up premierships at will but it was a big suburb full of small working class cottages filled with large Catholic families - the genesis of the Tiger Army.

North by contrast is a small suburb with plenty of industrial/warehouse areas taking up space so an even smaller population, and in football club terms is sandwiched between Carlton and Essendon, both successful early in the VFL. So it's always had a smaller base and more attractive clubs surrounding it. Add to that it was late to the VFL and had literally no success - played in one losing grand final in its first 50 years in the League and you have the recipe for North today.

On a personal note I would that its [censored] colours also contribute to its lack of appeal. I mean really, washed out sky blue, and white(!). Contrast that to, I don't know say a deep, blood red and a dark, almost black navy blue, those are colours you can get around.

The lack of a name suburban base was always offered as a major reason for Melbourne not having a bigger following when it was ruling the roost.

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1 hour ago, Gorgoroth said:

Whilst there are a lot there for sure, Japan has some amazing whisky and one of the absolute best imo is Hellyers Rd from Tassie.

I love Hellyers Rd but the pricepoint is a little beyond ideal compared to other great local whisky brands.  

11 hours ago, No. 31 said:

I bought this recently, haven't got to the 70s & 80s yet ... good reading so far 👍

An excellent book.  It put so much of this period into context. Essential reading for any supporter wanting to get a better understanding of this period from the 1970s through to the 2000s. I thought I knew it all, but the book provided information that I was unaware of, had forgotten, or for which I had scanty knowledge. It’s a reminder to never forget the past as it teaches us so many lessons for current and future times. 

18 hours ago, grazman said:

Love Banksy as you can probably tell 😄

Exhibition was next level awesome!

Love how he juxtaposes images to make the viewer smile, laugh, ponder or be shocked.

 
2 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Exhibition was next level awesome!

Love how he juxtaposes images to make the viewer smile, laugh, ponder or be shocked.

Do you have time and interest to visit any Charles Rennie Mackintosh sites while you're in Glasgow, Luci.  He's a favourite of mine, e.g.:

https://www.gla.ac.uk/hunterian/visit/ourvenues/themackintoshhouse/

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1 minute ago, old55 said:

Do you have time and interest to visit any Charles Rennie Mackintosh sites while you're in Glasgow, Luci.  He's a favourite of mine, e.g.:

https://www.gla.ac.uk/hunterian/visit/ourvenues/themackintoshhouse/

I do! He is next on my list.  Along with walking the 'Street Art Trail'.


Some Bansky street art to ponder:

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Ok. Time for teams and football so I'll take my leave of this thread and DL for the rest of my holiday.

Folks get the decor out to paint the town red and blue as our 14th flag beckons!!

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8 hours ago, layzie said:

I love Hellyers Rd but the pricepoint is a little beyond ideal compared to other great local whisky brands.  

Maaaaaaate, when you are drinking whisky, you pay for what you get. Hellyers is a great distiller, a lot of others decent, but not the same class. And tbh I think Hellyers are well priced. We got a starward from the whisky club and it was the same price and I don’t rate it at all.

6 hours ago, Gorgoroth said:

Maaaaaaate, when you are drinking whisky, you pay for what you get. Hellyers is a great distiller, a lot of others decent, but not the same class. And tbh I think Hellyers are well priced. We got a starward from the whisky club and it was the same price and I don’t rate it at all.

See I love Starward and you just went blasphemous! 😜

However if you're talking the Solera I'm not a massive fan, much prefer Fortis. 

I've only tried the 12 year single malt from Hellyers. Just didnt quite see the fuss. Happy to try again for sure.

In other news the whisky show is on Saturday 2 mins from my place and I don't have tickets!

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6 hours ago, layzie said:

See I love Starward and you just went blasphemous! 😜

However if you're talking the Solera I'm not a massive fan, much prefer Fortis. 

I've only tried the 12 year single malt from Hellyers. Just didnt quite see the fuss. Happy to try again for sure.

In other news the whisky show is on Saturday 2 mins from my place and I don't have tickets!

Slightly peated is my fav of theirs and they did an exclusive through the whisky club and it’s fantastic. Got a few bottles of that one.

 

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14 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Ok. Time for teams and football so I'll take my leave of this thread and DL for the rest of my holiday.

Folks get the decor out to paint the town red and blue as our 14th flag beckons!!

Wow LH the last time you were this confident was 2021. 

On 8/3/2023 at 7:46 AM, pitmaster said:

Believe it or not some of what makes clubs now big or otherwise has to do with Melbourne's geography. Richmond was not a wildly successful club early in the competition when Collingwood was racking up premierships at will but it was a big suburb full of small working class cottages filled with large Catholic families - the genesis of the Tiger Army.

North by contrast is a small suburb with plenty of industrial/warehouse areas taking up space so an even smaller population, and in football club terms is sandwiched between Carlton and Essendon, both successful early in the VFL. So it's always had a smaller base and more attractive clubs surrounding it. Add to that it was late to the VFL and had literally no success - played in one losing grand final in its first 50 years in the League and you have the recipe for North today.

On a personal note I would that its [censored] colours also contribute to its lack of appeal. I mean really, washed out sky blue, and white(!). Contrast that to, I don't know say a deep, blood red and a dark, almost black navy blue, those are colours you can get around.

The lack of a name suburban base was always offered as a major reason for Melbourne not having a bigger following when it was ruling the roost.

I saw a theory awhile ago that made sense to me about how and why the big clubs got big and it was due to the emerging TV coverage of the late 60s and 70's.
It was this time when Carlton, Collingwood and Richmond were all top sides and so dominating the footy show replays.
Teams on the bottom of the ladder during this time barely got a look in.
Every year for eg I'd watch the Grand Final eve replays and we were never in them.
Same with saturday nights when they'd review the days games and then show the last qtr or so of the game of the round.
We very rarely got a look in there either.
Essendon and Hawthorns era of dominance during the 80's helped their cause.
Meanwhile we for the most part were stinking up the bottom of the ladder for multiple decades.
Can't explain Norf but I do feel for them pioneering Friday night footy only then for the other clubs to muscle in on their lucrative action.




 

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1 hour ago, Gorgoroth said:

Slightly peated is my fav of theirs and they did an exclusive through the whisky club and it’s fantastic. Got a few bottles of that one.

 

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Definitely going to have to try this. I'm all about the Pinot/red wine casks.

Been meaning to join the Whisky club for years. More than happy to get a decent whisky each month for reasonable $. 

1 hour ago, Gorgoroth said:

Slightly peated is my fav of theirs and they did an exclusive through the whisky club and it’s fantastic. Got a few bottles of that one.

 

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This whisky was well received by the best independent whisky reviewer going around Ralphy Mitchell from the Isle of Mann. His weekly reviews are well worth checking out.

 

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15 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Some Bansky street art to ponder:

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Magnificent! The exhibition would have been something else! 


On 8/3/2023 at 6:41 AM, Gorgoroth said:

Whilst there are a lot there for sure, Japan has some amazing whisky and one of the absolute best imo is Hellyers Rd from Tassie.

Agreed on Japanese whiskies. Superb. Moreover Japan is a remarkable place to buy whisky. You can get a bottle of excellent Scotch ....Ardbeg etc...from a Seven Eleven for half what they cost here, even less. It's ridiculously cheap.

10 minutes ago, Redlagged said:

Agreed on Japanese whiskies. Superb. Moreover Japan is a remarkable place to buy whisky. You can get a bottle of excellent Scotch ....Ardbeg etc...from a Seven Eleven for half what they cost here, even less. It's ridiculously cheap.

My brother is in Japan right now. Might have to put in an order! 

18 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Some Bansky street art to ponder:

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Brilliant art, Luci.

Shame about this…

https://amp.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2023/feb/14/banksy-new-artwork-margate-kent-violence-against-women

And this…

https://amp.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2016/jul/11/banksy-stencils-destroyed-by-construction-workers-in-melbourne

 

My fave Banksy…

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“PILLOW FIGHT”

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On 8/2/2023 at 9:24 PM, WalkingCivilWar said:

Poor bastard.

Remember the times when we’d say “we only lost by five goals!” 🥳 🎉 🎈 

Further to this… last night Sophie (one of our three AMAZING leaders) told me that in 2013 if we lost a match by anything under five goals the cheer squad would sing the song. 😢

On 8/1/2023 at 8:10 PM, Diamond_Jim said:

that's a good discussion point and relevant to teams like MFC ever catching the big boys.

There is no doubt that North of old were an entertaining and successful team. Why did they not catch on whereas Hawthorn did ? Was it simply the weight of premiership numbers or was there something else

The PLEASANT SUNDAY MORNINGS at the old hawthorn ground would have helped.The family club, a family that gets [censored] together is happy


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