On 23/07/2023 at 09:22, Red But Mostly Blue said:

This ⬆️

The Crows are a good young side with a lot of raw talent, capable of turning it on and especially when their season is on the line. No shame in a tight win, a lot better than a close loss. 

 

Totally agree. They pushed us right to the end. 

  On 23/07/2023 at 09:37, Dr. Gonzo said:

Crows picked through our zone with ease at times and seemed to match us in the contest (particularly centre contests) although I haven't seen the stats. They're a decent side and have Burgess who would be priming them for this time if year so no surprise they came home strong. Don't forget the Pies only just got past them, twice. Having said that if it wasn't for Rankine we probably would have put them away before half time.

I thought JJ needed to be better, it doesn't feel like he's really grabbed the opportunity having Oliver out has been. He's been ok without being outstanding. When Oliver returns I think JJ is first dropped. Woewodin has been ok for a first year player but I don't think he'll stay in the seniors much longer either. Hibberd should return nd help out backline with some leg speed.

I thought there were times when our zone was perfect and they cut us with some really good skill. 

Very good side in the making.

Edited July 23, 20231 yr by layzie

  On 23/07/2023 at 08:06, dee-tox said:

Tomlinson some good things.

Understatement!!

  On 23/07/2023 at 09:37, AllMyTeamsAreWank said:

Don't know if anyone else in this thread has mentioned it, but we had one single tackle inside our forward 50. Not good. 

So did Collingwood last night 🤷‍♂️

Not unimpressive but nevertheless, a bit meh.  Would have been a shock if we'd actually lost

We've got a hole at CHF that needs to be filled ... but if Grundy comes in and Brown goes out I'm still not filled with confidence

But otherwise, our overall game was reasonable good but not excellent.  To be honest, I don't know what to make of it when considering upcoming QF's and the like

We've qualified for a decent finals spot as such (as the buffer protects us) but the issue remains with the forward line connection being a complex one with no easy answer

We are certainly in the mix with our W/L ratio

In the end, happy to get the win

 

Edited July 23, 20231 yr by Macca

That was by far the worst game I’ve ever seen Steven May play. He was completely out of sorts. Couldn’t take a mark, spoiled his teammates, constantly out positioned, kick outs horrible, field kicking awful… nothing went well for him 

  On 23/07/2023 at 09:43, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

That was by far the worst game I’ve ever seen Steven May play. He was completely out of sorts. Couldn’t take a mark, spoiled his teammates, constantly out positioned, kick outs horrible, field kicking awful… nothing went well for him 

He’s often a bit more ‘shouty at others’ when is having a poor game… 

  On 23/07/2023 at 09:37, AllMyTeamsAreWank said:

Don't know if anyone else in this thread has mentioned it, but we had one single tackle inside our forward 50. Not good. 

Hard to explain that one.

We had 17 marks inside 50 and they cut off quite a few with O'Brien and co so it wasn't really a ground ball in 50 kind of game for us. Still would have expected more than 1 tackle I50.

Just got back from the game. 

A couple of brain fades brought them back into it:

1. Kick in to the two on one

2. When we had the ball locked in our forward pocket and ill-discipline lead to a 50 and a loss of momentum.

Strong argument that it was the lesser lights that kept us in it. Chandler obviously but Smith was good as was Taj. Felt Trac had a stinker. No idea what his numbers were, but there's times when they don't give the full story.

 

 

  On 23/07/2023 at 09:44, Engorged Onion said:

He’s often a bit more ‘shouty at others’ when is having a poor game… 

Yeah and did that too. Everyone is else’s fault. Needs to own his errors 

  On 23/07/2023 at 09:13, old dee said:

Currently we do not have a forward line that will win a flag this year. I expect us to bow out in the preliminary round. Only injuries to the pies and port teams will get us into the GF. 

Let me guess: "happy to be wrong"?

  On 23/07/2023 at 09:28, mauriesy said:

More underestimation of our opposition. They lost to Collingwood twice by a total of 3 points.

And Crows got done by the Suns, Dogs, Tigers, and nearly by the Hawks

That logic can be used both ways

  On 23/07/2023 at 09:22, Stiff Arm said:

Adelaide are 13th

Win today and Adelaide would have been one game out of the 8.

  On 23/07/2023 at 09:03, Brownie said:

Hunter's disposal is about as clean as a uni student's share house fry pan.

Or the uni student’s share house, in general 

Not enough is being made of the fact that we have been without arguably the best player in the competition for close to 3 months now. Oh and missing our best forward and one of the best medium forwards in the competition.

We just do not appreciate what a loss Oliver is. That we’ve managed to beat 2 top 4 teams without him is bloody excellent. 
 

Very few sides would cover this type of loss for as long as we have. 

Edited July 23, 20231 yr by Jaded No More

  On 23/07/2023 at 09:50, Jaded No More said:

Not enough is being made of the fact that we have been without arguably the best player in the competition for close to 3 months now. Oh and missing our best forward and one of the best medium forwards in the competition.

We just do not appreciate what a loss Oliver is. That we’ve managed to beat 2 top 4 teams without him is bloody excellent. 
 

Very few sides would cover this type of loss for as long as we have. 

nah mate... were just not competitive enough 🤷‍♂️

  On 23/07/2023 at 09:48, bing181 said:

Win today and Adelaide would have been one game out of the 8.

Plus %

Having lost today, they are one game plus % away from 4th last

Hypotheticals work both ways!

  On 23/07/2023 at 09:47, Stiff Arm said:

And Crows got done by the Suns, Dogs, Tigers, and nearly by the Hawks

That logic can be used both ways

Of course it can. But you're refusing to acknowledge one of those ways.

  On 23/07/2023 at 09:47, Stiff Arm said:

And Crows got done by the Suns, Dogs, Tigers, and nearly by the Hawks

That logic can be used both ways

Just losing to Collingwood was their best, not their worst. Today was close to their best.

  On 23/07/2023 at 09:55, bing181 said:

Of course it can. But you're refusing to acknowledge one of those ways.

Really, where did I do that?

I simply said they were 13th on the ladder 

  On 23/07/2023 at 09:53, Stiff Arm said:

Plus %

Having lost today, they are one game plus % away from 4th last

Hypotheticals work both ways!

Jesus.

What confirmation bias looks like.

  On 23/07/2023 at 09:44, Engorged Onion said:

He’s often a bit more ‘shouty at others’ when is having a poor game… 

Let's hope he gets to see how poor he really was in a replay. 

  On 23/07/2023 at 09:45, Return to Glory said:

Just got back from the game. 

A couple of brain fades brought them back into it:

1. Kick in to the two on one

2. When we had the ball locked in our forward pocket and ill-discipline lead to a 50 and a loss of momentum.

Strong argument that it was the lesser lights that kept us in it. Chandler obviously but Smith was good as was Taj. Felt Trac had a stinker. No idea what his numbers were, but there's times when they don't give the full story.

 

 

What was the initial free for in the pocket? I had no idea at the ground.  He also didn’t give melksham much time to get on the mark. Considering we could have had a few 50s go our way they chose not to pay.  Dubious umpiring with that one I thought. Get it out of our forward line and open the game back up for them.

  On 23/07/2023 at 09:50, Jaded No More said:

Not enough is being made of the fact that we have been without arguably the best player in the competition for close to 3 months now. Oh and missing our best forward and one of the best medium forwards in the competition.

We just do not appreciate what a loss Oliver is. That we’ve managed to beat 2 top 4 teams without him is bloody excellent. 
 

Very few sides would cover this type of loss for as long as we have. 

And the fact that we lack polish isn’t a surprise. 

14.13 is good production from about 50 entries. 

Again, the worry internally will be ‘The Slice through the Press’ but I hope it isn’t. Move the footy better and with purpose - which we saw a bit of today after 2 quarters last week. If you can do a suffocating press once against the best (KB) that’s enough for muscle memory and belief. Just celebrate having 27 scoring shots and kicking 13 goals is where I would go - can we do more of that?

  On 23/07/2023 at 09:45, Return to Glory said:

Strong argument that it was the lesser lights that kept us in it. Chandler obviously but Smith was good as was Taj. Felt Trac had a stinker. No idea what his numbers were, but there's times when they don't give the full story.

Trac had 26 disposals and Taj 7.