Farewell James Jordon

[Mach5 4,499]

I feel like he wasn’t going to improve if he stayed, but I expect him to kick on wherever he ends up.

[Winners at last 4,941]

I wonder if his alter ego Jordan Jones will also be leaving.

[BaliDemon 401]

2 hours ago, bobby1554 said:

And how do you think the player he would have replaced felt, not being out there when the final siren went? The sub was for injuries only that year, and the only one we had was May. Would you have dragged May? I think not.

I think he (whoever came off for him) would’ve felt wonderful knowing his teammate was able to share the glory and joy of having had a chance to be out there on the ground, just like he’d been able to for the previous 3 quarters and 20 minutes. I think whoever that player may have been would’ve loved sharing that lifelong memory with James.

The match was won and over as a contest. Nothing at all to do with being ‘dragged’. Everything to do with thinking about the moment and an experience of a lifetime for a young man who was part of the team. It was a crappy thing not to have done imo. I was embarrassed for him and disappointed in the coach it didn’t happen. 

Edited September 19, 2023 by BaliDemon

[BaliDemon 401]

5 hours ago, Jerry Lundergard said:

The sub rule in 2021 was for medical reasons only, so technically he could only come on for an injury, which there was none in the GF.

Silly excuse. No-one would’ve prevented or cared had we activated him. “Spargs has got a bit of a hammy. Better come off.” No worries. 

[layzie 30,400]

Time to go and explore new opportunities, thanks for everything James. Glad Cal referred to him as a premiership player.

[spirit of norm smith 13,605]

26 minutes ago, layzie said:

Time to go and explore new opportunities, thanks for everything James. Glad Cal referred to him as a premiership player.

MELBOURNE premiership player James Jordon has informed the Demons he will be exploring his free agency options.

Melbourne has been keen to retain him but he is set to look at the opportunities for more cemented roles having been either the starting or finishing substitute in eight of his 18 games this year. 

The hard-running wingman has played 65 games for the Demons, including 25 in their premiership campaign two years ago when he was the medical substitute for their three finals, including the Grand Final win over the Western Bulldogs.
 

[Bystander 894]

11 hours ago, Demons11 said:

Geeze we are going to have some turnover this year.  Casey are going to struggle next year 

It will if you pull 7 players out during finals.

Not sure that helped the ones either.

[mo64 5,280]

The club may say that they wanted to retain JJ, but did everything possible to drive him away. Getting Hunter would have been a slap in the face, because he established himself as a wingman in 2022. And Hunter really hasn't proven to be an upgrade. Then constantly used as a sub or at Casey in 2023.

The club's list management needs to be questioned. Like Bedford, JJ is leaving before he has reached his prime. And I don't see a lot of emerging midfield talent at Casey to cover for injuries in 2024. 

Unlike some in our current team, JJ will walk into most teams. Unfortunately he was not one of Goody's pets. Sad to see him go.

 

[Jaded No More 60,054]

His performance last Friday showed us why he’d struggle to get a consistent game in our side. He was just ok but he isn’t damaging. He’s behind Oliver, Viney, Trac, Gus and Sparrow. That’s a lot of talent to sit behind and hope something changes. 

[Redleg 38,516]

57 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

MELBOURNE premiership player James Jordon has informed the Demons he will be exploring his free agency options.

Melbourne has been keen to retain him but he is set to look at the opportunities for more cemented roles having been either the starting or finishing substitute in eight of his 18 games this year. 

The hard-running wingman has played 65 games for the Demons, including 25 in their premiership campaign two years ago when he was the medical substitute for their three finals, including the Grand Final win over the Western Bulldogs.
 

Disappointing for us he is a FA, as we will get little for him, a lowly pick, whereas if he was contracted, we could get something far better.

Anyway all the best JJ.

[whatwhat say what 20,369]

49 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Disappointing for us he is a FA, as we will get little for him, a lowly pick, whereas if he was contracted, we could get something far better.

Anyway all the best JJ.

i personally don't think so

his value is probably a third rounder, which is what we'll get for him

mid-paced midfielders who aren't particularly good by foot are dime-a-dozen

[old55 21,864]

1 hour ago, Jaded No More said:

His performance last Friday showed us why he’d struggle to get a consistent game in our side. He was just ok but he isn’t damaging. He’s behind Oliver, Viney, Trac, Gus and Sparrow. That’s a lot of talent to sit behind and hope something changes. 

60% game time, 10 possessions and 1 tackle. Zero impact as Gus's replacement.

I think it was an opportunity to make a statement and he did.

[poita 3,755]

All year the talk has been that Jordon will look elsewhere for more midfield opportunities. We gave him midfield time late in the season, particularly against Adelaide & Richmond, and he was so ordinary. His semi final performance was especially woeful.

He's not quick, he's not a great kick, and it takes him so long to make a decision every time he gets the ball. You only have to look at how Saad led him to the ball on multiple occasions at the start of the third quarter to see that he doesn't do anything instinctively on the football field.

Ultimately he is one of many players who has regressed over the past two seasons, and I have no issue with moving him on, rather than him resigning on a 3-4 year deal on decent money. Unfortunately we won't be well compensated, but we are not improving the team by retaining these sort of players.

 

[Travy14 1,608]

Love this guy and spewing we will lose him.  But he has to go for opportunities.  He has the talent and if he gets to be the #1 contested player for a team he will go well, will be a good fit at Sydney. best of luck to him!

[DeeSpencer 23,672]

2 hours ago, Redleg said:

Disappointing for us he is a FA, as we will get little for him, a lowly pick, whereas if he was contracted, we could get something far better.

Anyway all the best JJ.

I’m not sure that’s true, we offer a fat contract that nets us a second rounder if anyone offers the same. If he was traded it would probably be for a 3rd.

Teams will consistently pay overs for free agents because they don’t cost a pick. Classic examples include Adam Tomlinson, Mabior Chol and Rory Atkins

[DeeSpencer 23,672]

1 hour ago, old55 said:

60% game time, 10 possessions and 1 tackle. Zero impact as Gus's replacement.

I think it was an opportunity to make a statement and he did.

3 centre bounce attendances.

Hard to make an impact as a one paced mid playing in the half forward Death Valley 

[old55 21,864]

6 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

3 centre bounce attendances.

Hard to make an impact as a one paced mid playing in the half forward Death Valley 

True, but do you think he could have laid a tackle on Newman say?  Maybe he was on Saad, there wasn't too much "woof" and Saad was kicking out after behinds so that inflated his stats.  I'm not watching the replay to find out.

[Redleg 38,516]

1 hour ago, whatwhat say what said:

i personally don't think so

his value is probably a third rounder, which is what we'll get for him

mid-paced midfielders who aren't particularly good by foot are dime-a-dozen

Then why are 5 clubs rumoured to be chasing him, if he is a dime a dozen player?

He is no star, but he must be better than that.

[Redleg 38,516]

18 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

I’m not sure that’s true, we offer a fat contract that nets us a second rounder if anyone offers the same. If he was traded it would probably be for a 3rd.

Teams will consistently pay overs for free agents because they don’t cost a pick. Classic examples include Adam Tomlinson, Mabior Chol and Rory Atkins

I believe he is an Unrestricted Free Agent and we are not offering him a fat contract.

[MrFreeze 1,632]

I do not see a huge upwards trajectory for Jimmy. Likely to be be pushed out by more talented younger players at any of the suggested clubs. Good luck to him, will have to be very smart about where he chooses to go.

Edited September 20, 2023 by MrFreeze

[Jaded No More 60,054]

37 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Then why are 5 clubs rumoured to be chasing him, if he is a dime a dozen player?

He is no star, but he must be better than that.

Because he’s young, he’s shown he can play consistently on the wing and as an inside mid and he will cost another club nothing. Why wouldn’t you, if you’re a club who needs some more contested ball winners?

[DeeSpencer 23,672]

36 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I believe he is an Unrestricted Free Agent and we are not offering him a fat contract.

The reports say we want him to stay. So of course we offer him as much as we can afford to drive his price up. I’d even offer a fraction more than we’d ever want to offer just to inflate the market. The number of teams interested show how in demand free talent is. We have to be part of boosting that contract dollar and hopefully getting 2nd round compo. 

[leave it to deever 16,581]

He's probably  better off somewhere  else.

[old55 21,864]

5 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

The reports say we want him to stay. So of course we offer him as much as we can afford to drive his price up. I’d even offer a fraction more than we’d ever want to offer just to inflate the market. The number of teams interested show how in demand free talent is. We have to be part of boosting that contract dollar and hopefully getting 2nd round compo. 

Do you really want to risk him calling our bluff with Harmes and Dunstan leaving and taking 3 or 4 more years with us?

[mo64 5,280]

9 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

The reports say we want him to stay. So of course we offer him as much as we can afford to drive his price up. I’d even offer a fraction more than we’d ever want to offer just to inflate the market. The number of teams interested show how in demand free talent is. We have to be part of boosting that contract dollar and hopefully getting 2nd round compo. 

What we offer is irrelevant, because it seems he is leaving for opportunity, not money. Even if we have a fat contract in front of him, as an UFA, the other club doesn't have to match or exceed our offer.