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With the end of the home and away season approaching the first retirements of 2023 have been announced - Richmond’s Robbie Tarrant, followed by Jack Ziebell of North Melbourne. There will be many more to come so here’s this year’s version of the ins and outs at the AFL Clubs ~



ADELAIDE 

In: James Borlase (re-listed ®) Chris Burgess (Gold Coast Suns) Daniel Curtin (Claremont WA) Charlie Edwards (Sandringham Dragons) Will Hamill (re-listed ®) Oscar Ryan (Murray Bushrangers)

Out: James Borlase (delisted) Tyler Brown (delisted) Tom Doedee (Brisbane) Will Hammill (delisted) Jackson Hateley (delisted) Shane McAdam (Melbourne) Fischer McAsey (retired) Andrew McPherson (delisted) Tariek Newchurch (delisted) Paul Seedsman (retired)

BRISBANE LIONS 

In: Tom Doedee (Adelaide) Luke Lloyd (Sandringham Dragons) Logan Morris (Western Jets) Bruce Reville (Cat B ®) Brandon Ryan (Hawthorn) Reece Torrent (Peel Thunder WA) Zane Zakostelsky (Claremont WA)

Out: Marcus Adams (retired) Nakia Cockatoo (retired) Blake Coleman (delisted) Tom Fullarton (Melbourne) Jack Gunston (Hawthorn) Darryl McDowell White Jr (delisted) Rhys Mathieson (delisted) Daniel Rich (retired)

CARLTON 

In: Matt Carroll (Sandringham Dragons ®) Matt Duffy (Cat B ®) Orazio Fantasia (Port Adelaide) Elijah Hollands (Gold Coast Suns) Ashton Moir (Glenelg SA) Rob Monahan (Cat B ®) Billy Wilson (Dandenong Stingrays)

Out: Ed Curnow (retired) Paddy Dow (St Kilda) Zac Fisher (North Melbourne) Josh Honey (delisted) Lochie O’Brien (delisted) Sam Philip (delisted) Lachie Plowman (retired)

COLLINGWOOD

In: Harry DeMattia (Dandenong Stingrays) Tew Jiath (Gippsland Power) Lachie Schultz (Fremantle)

Out: Taylor Adams (Sydney Swans) Trent Bianco (delisted) Arlo Draper (delisted) Jack Ginnivan (Hawthorn) Will Kelly (delisted) Cooper Murley (delisted) Trey Ruscoe (delisted) Tom Wilson (delisted)

ESSENDON



In: Nate Caddy (Northern Knights) Xavier Duursma (Port Adelaide) Todd Goldstein (North Melbourne) Jade Gresham (St Kilda) Luamon Lual (GWV Rebels) Ben McKay (North Melbourne) Archie Roberts (Sandringham Dragons) Vigo Visentini (Sandringham Dragons ®)

Out: Massimo D’Ambrosio (Hawthorn) Alastair Lord (delisted) Can McBride (delisted ®) Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti (retired) Rhett Montgomerie (delisted ®) Anthony Munkara (delisted ®) Andrew Phillips (retired) Will Snelling (delisted) James Stewart (delisted) Patrick Voss (delisted) Brandon Zerk-Thatcher (Port Adelaide) 

FREMANTLE

In: Jack Delean (South Adelaide SA) Odin Jones (West Perth WA ®) Oscar McDonald (ex Carlton) Ollie Murphy (Sandringham Dragons) Jeremy Sharp (Gold Coast ®) Cooper Simpson (Dandenong Stingrays)

Out: Eric Benning (delisted) Travis Colyer (delisted) Joel Hambling (Sydney Swans)  Liam Henry (St Kilda) Lachie Schultz (Collingwood) Nathan Wilson (delisted)

GEELONG

In: Mitch Edwards (Peel Thunder WA) Joe Furphy (Cat B ®) Lawson Humphries (Swan Districts WA) Emerson Jeka (Hawthorn ®) Shaun Mannagh (Werribee VFL) Connor O'Sullivan (Murray Bushrangers) Esava Ratugolea (Port Adelaide) George Stevens (GWV Rebels) Oliver Wiltshire (Barwon Heads VIC)

Out: Jonathon Ceglar (retired) Flynn Kroeger (delisted) Sam Menegola (delisted) Esava Ratugolea (Port Adelaide) Osca Ricardi (delisted) Sam Simpson (delisted) Isaac Smith (retired) Cooper Whyte (delisted)

GOLD COAST SUNS

In: Sam Clohesy (Werribee VFL® ) Sam Day (Gold Coast relist) Will Graham (Suns Academy QLD) Jack Mahony (North Melbourne ®) Ethan Read (Suns Academy QLD) Jake Rogers (Suns Academy QLD) Will Rowlands (Norwood SA ®) Jed Walter (Suns Academy QLD)

Out: Jed Anderson (delisted) Connor Blakely (retired) Chris Burgess (Adelaide) Mabior Chol (Hawthorn) Charlie Constable (retired) Elijah Hollands (Carlton) Brodie McLaughlin (delisted) Jeremy Sharp (delisted) Jake Stein (delisted)

GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY GIANTS

In: Phoenix Gothard (Murray Bushrangers) Adam Kennedy (re-listed ®) James Leake (Tasmania Devils) Harvey Thomas (Giants Academy) Nathan Wardius (Cat B ®)

Out: Phil Davis (retired) Cameron Fleeton (delisted) Matt Flynn (West Coast Eagles) Jason Gillbee (delisted ®) Adam Kennedy (delisted) Daniel Lloyd (retired)

HAWTHORN 

In: Mabior Chol (Gold Coast Suns) Massimo D’Ambrosio (Essendon) Calsher Dear (Sandringham Dragons) Jack Ginnivan (Collingwood) Jack Gunston (Brisbane Lions) Will McCabe (Central District SA) Bodie Ryan (Glenelg SA) Cooper Stephens (re-listed ®) Nick Watson (Eastern Ranges) Chad Wingard (Hawthorn relist)

Out: Lachie Bramble (delisted) Tyler Brockman (West Coast Eagles) Fergus Greene (delisted) Emerson Jeka (delisted) Jacob Koschitzke (Richmond) Ned Long (delisted) Max Lynch (retired) Josh Morris (delisted) Fionn O'Hara (delisted ®) Brandon Ryan (Brisbane Lions) Cooper Stephens (delisted) Chad Wingard (delisted)

MELBOURNE 

In: Jack Billings (St Kilda) Kynan Brown (Oakleigh Chargers Cat B ®) Tom Fullarton (Brisbane Lions) Marty Hore (Williamstown VFL ®) Shane McAdam (Adelaide) Jake Melksham (re-listed ®) Koltyn Tholstrup (Subiaco WA) Caleb Windsor (Eastern Ranges)

Out: Luke Dunstan (retired) Brodie Grundy (Sydney Swans) James Harmes (Western Bulldogs) Michael Hibberd (retired) James Jordon (Sydney Swans) Jake Melksham (delisted) Deaykin Smith (delisted ®) Kye Turner (delisted ®)

NORTH MELBOURNE 

In: Wil Dawson (Gippsland Power) Zane Duursma (Gippsland Power) Zac Fisher (Carlton) Taylor Goad (South Adelaide, SA) Riley Hardeman (Swan Districts WA) Colby McKercher (Tasmania Devils) Finnbar Maley (Northern Bullants VFL ®) Bigoa Nyuon (Richmond) Toby Pink (delisted free agent) Dylan Stephens (Sydney Swans)

Out: Aiden Bonar (delisted) Ben Cunnington (retired) Jacob Edwards (delisted) Todd Goldstein (Essendon) Aaron Hall (retired) Daniel Howe (retired) Flynn Perez (delisted) Ben McKay (Essendon) Jack Mahony (delisted) Phoenix Spicer (delisted) Kayne Turner (delisted) Lachie Young (delisted) Jack Ziebell (retired)

PORT ADELAIDE 

In: Esava Ratugolea (Geelong) Ivan Soldo (Richmond) Jordan Sweet (Western Bulldogs) Xavier Welsh (East Perth WA ®) Brandon Zerk-Thatcher (Essendon)

Out: Thomas Anastasopoulos (Geelong Falcons) Nathan Barkla (delisted ®) Riley Bonner (delisted) Lachlan Charleson (GWV Rebels) Trent Dumont (delisted) Xavier Duursma (Essendon) Orazio Fantasia (Carlton) Sam Hayes (delisted) Tom Jonas (retired) Will Lorenz (Oakleigh Chargers) Scott Lycett (retired) Jake Pasini (delisted) Brynn Teakle (delisted ®)

RICHMOND

In: Liam Fawcett (Central District SA) Oliver Hayes Brow (Cat B ®) Jacob Koschitzke (Hawthorn) Kane McAuliffe (North Adelaide SA) Sam Naismith (ex Sydney Swans)

Out: Kaelan Bradtke (delisted ®) Jason Castagna (retired) Trent Cotchin (retired) Bigoa Nyuon (Hawthorn) Jack Riewoldt (retired) Ivan Soldo (Port Adelaide) Robbie Tarrant (retired)

ST KILDA

In: Riley Bonner (Port Adelaide ) Lance Collard (Subiaco WA) Paddy Dow (Carlton) Hugo Garcia (Calder Cannons) Angus Hastie (Geelong Falcons) Liam Henry (Fremantle) Liam O'Connell (Cat B ®) Ari Schoenmaker (Tassie Devils) Darcy Wilson (Murray Bushrangers)

Out: Oscar Adams (delisted) Jack Billings (Melbourne) Jack Bytel (delisted) Nick Coffield (Western Bulldogs) Leo Connolly (delisted) Jade Gresham (Essendon) Tom Highmore (delisted) Dan McKenzie (delisted) Jack Peris (delisted) 

SYDNEY SWANS

In: Taylor Adams (Collingwood) Caiden Cleary (Swans Academy) Will Green (Northern Knights) Brodie Grundy (Melbourne) Joel Hambling (Fremantle) James Jordon (Melbourne) Indhi Kirk (Cat B ®) Sam Reid (re-listed ®)

Out: Ryan Clarke (delisted) Lance Franklin (retired) Will Gould (delisted) Hugo Hall-Kahan (delisted ®) Tom Hickey (retired) Paddy McCartin (retired) Cameron Owen (delisted) Lachlan Rankin (delisted) Marc Sheather (delisted) Patrick Snell (Brisbane Academy) Dylan Stephens (North Melbourne) 

WEST COAST EAGLES 

In: Tyler Brockman (Hawthorn) Matt Flynn (GWS Giants) Clay Hall (Peel Thunder WA) Harvey Johnston (Sandringham Dragons) Coen Livingstone (Cat B ®) Loch Rawlinson (Sturt SA ®) Archer Reid (Gippsland Power) Harley Reid (Bendigo Pioneers)

Out: Greg Clark (delisted) Shannon Hurn (retired) Luke Foley (delisted) Nic Naitanui (retired) Xavier O'Neill (delisted) Sam Petrevski-Seton (delisted) Luke Shuey (retired) Connor West (delisted) Isiah Winder (delisted) 

WESTERN BULLDOGS

In: Nick Coffield (St Kilda) Jordan Croft (Calder Cannons) Taylor Duryea (re-listed ®) Joel Freijah (GWV Rebels) James Harmes (Melbourne) Lachie McNeil (re-listed ®) Aiden O’Driscoll (Perth WA) Ryley Sanders (Sandringham Dragons) Lachlan Smith (Gippsland Power) 

Out: Josh Bruce (retired) Hayden Crozier (delisted) Taylor Duryea (delisted) Mitch Hannan (delisted) Robbie McComb (delisted) Toby McLean (delisted) Lachlan McNeil (delisted) Tim O'Brien (delisted) Cody Raak (delisted) Roarke Smith (delisted) Jordan Sweet (Port Adelaide)

If you know of any other retirements or delistings, please feel free to advise.

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Demonland has made the difficult decision to not to permit this platform to be used to discuss & debate the off-field issues relating to the Melbourne Football Club including matters currently being litigated between the Club & former Board members, the culture at the club & the personal issues & allegations against some of our players & officials.

We do not take these issues & this decision lightly & of course we believe that these serious matters affecting the club we love & are so passionate about are worthy of discussion & debate & I wish we could provide a place where these matters can be discussed in a civil & respectful manner.

However these discussions unfortunately invariably devolve into areas that may be defamatory, libelous, spread unsubstantiated rumours & can effect the mental health of those involved. Even discussion & debate of known facts or media reports can lead to finger pointing, blame & personal attacks.

The repercussion is that these discussions can open this website, it’s owners & it’s users to legal action & may result in this website being forced to shutdown.

Our moderating team are all volunteers & cannot moderate the forum 24/7 & as a consequence problematic content that contravenes our rules & standards may go unnoticed for some time before it can be removed.

We reserve the right to delete posts that offend against our above policy & indeed, to ban posters who are repeat offenders or who breach our code of conduct.

WE HAVE BUILT A FANTASTIC ONLINE COMMUNITY AT DEMONLAND OVER THE PAST 23 YEARS & WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THE CLUB WE LOVE & ARE SO PASSIONATE ABOUT.

Thank you for your continued support & understanding. Go Dees.


Natanui said to be contemplating retirement....

West Coast chief executive Trevor Nisbett won’t seek a contract extension beyond next year but expects Adam Simpson to remain as coach of the AFL club.

The long-time Eagles boss also confirmed that cult figure Nic Naitanui could join veterans Shannon Hurn and Luke Shuey in retirement.

The 33-year-old Naitanui, who is contracted for next season, has been sidelined for all of 2023 after managing just eight games last year.

“I’m sure he’s weighing up his future as we speak because it’s a long, long journey back (from his achilles injury) and he knows that,” Nisbett told SEN Radio in Perth.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/ginnivan-in-again-magpies-lose-sidebottom-for-cats-game-because-of-foot-injury-20230809-p5dv42.html

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On 8/8/2023 at 5:38 PM, Whispering_Jack said:

For completeness, former players Fischer McAsey (Adelaide) and Jason Castagna (Richmond) who announced their retirements before the start of the season, have been added to the list.

If I didn't know these guys were (now former) footballers, with names like these I would have thought they were protagonists in a US TV crime show with Fischer McAsey being the cop and Castagna part of a New Jersey crime family.

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6 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

If I didn't know these guys were (now former) footballers, with names like these I would have thought they were protagonists in a US TV crime show with Fischer McAsey being the cop and Castagna part of a New Jersey crime family.

Fisher McAsey sounds like he needs a proctologist. 

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6 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

Wise decision by Paddy I would say.

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Agree it's a wise decision but very unfortunate - could certainly play 

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On 8/15/2023 at 9:17 AM, Demonstone said:

Jack Riewoldt (Richmond) is the latest veteran to announce his departure from AFL.

I never warmed to him but acknowledge that he had an excellent career.

I'd take him as a rookie pick.

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