Jump to content

POSTGAME: Rd 15 vs Geelong

Demonland
Demonland
in Melbourne Demons

Featured Replies

  On 23/06/2023 at 08:54, bing181 said:

Smith showing his lack of footy nouse and being consistently outmanoeuvred by Stewart has nothing to do with Stafford.

Stop blaming the coaches, the team just isn't as good as what many here seem to think. That's why we lose matches.

Surely its up to Stafford to know what his charges can and cant do...and makeceffects to remedy it or call time.

Thats his bloody job surely.

Players dont pick themselves, players dont devise the game. Thats ALL the Coaches domain ...so yeah....some here will call them out.

  • Quote
    • Like 2
     
      On 23/06/2023 at 09:01, beelzebub said:

    Surely its up to Stafford to know what his charges can and cant do...and makeceffects to remedy it or call time.

    Thats his bloody job surely.

    Players dont pick themselves, players dont devise the game. Thats ALL the Coaches domain ...so yeah....some here will call them out.

    I've lost faith in Stafford. He can go at the end of the year.

  • Quote
    • Like 3
    • Sad 1
      On 23/06/2023 at 08:49, Redlagged said:

    You don't say.

    Yeah the reason why the obvious needs to be said is that too many want to focus on inconsequential subject matter like a player here or there making the odd error

    Big picture says that the connection from the mids to the forwards needs to be addressed

    Edited by Macca

  • Quote
    • Like 2
     
      On 23/06/2023 at 08:42, Macca said:

    We really missed Oliver last night after Viney was so very good against the Pies

    And Oliver is a real last quarter crunch-time player ... he plays and we're at least closer

    Can't have an elite player like him out for too long as when you play the better teams they will exploit his absence

    The unanswered question is why Kozzie isn't being used in the middle for that x-factor or to just change things up.  Get him into the play to get his numbers up I say.  Just hands on the ball with a receive-and-go would help

    Clarrie clears the contests with the first disposal which makes us look quick and move it quick.

    Sparrow does it occasionally, Trac too but Clarrie does it a lot.

  • Quote
    • Like 6
      On 23/06/2023 at 09:03, Gorgoroth said:

    Clarrie clears the contests with the first disposal which makes us look quick and move it quick.

    Sparrow does it occasionally, Trac too but Clarrie does it a lot.

    That's right and we can only cover for Oliver for so long before his absence gets exploited

  • Quote
    • Like 6

      On 23/06/2023 at 09:08, Macca said:

    That's right and we can only cover for Oliver for so long before his absence gets exploited

    Umm... cough... last night....cough..

  • Quote
    • Like 2
    • Thanks 1
      On 23/06/2023 at 09:08, Macca said:

    That's right and we can only cover for Oliver for so long before his absence gets exploited

    Well we better get a new plan cos it’s being exploited and Clarrie has said his hammy is still sore.

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    • Shocked 1
     
      On 23/06/2023 at 09:01, beelzebub said:

    Surely its up to Stafford to know what his charges can and cant do...and makeceffects to remedy it or call time.

    Stafford can't make up for the fact that we don't have the cattle. The extreme of your position is that you could take Mooroopna thirds and turn them into an AFL team with great coaching. Sooner or later, you need the players who can do the job, and for key position forwards we just don't have them.

  • Quote
    • Like 1

      On 23/06/2023 at 03:29, layzie said:

    Nice one mate! What kind of clubs are you rocking?

    Had the same clubs from age 14 to 30. Cr-ppy cheap Rapiers (which actuallly still hit really, really well).  Bought some Mizuno MP32s but couldn’t hit them so now have some circa 1998 Titleist DCIs. TM Sim Max D/3W, Ping Anser and set of Cleveland 588 special Ws at 49/56/60. Probably swap the 56 back to a very nice Hogan 54. The DCIs are waaaay under loft - would love to hit a new cavity. 
     

    Just practice though - as has always been, and always will be. 

  • Quote
    • Like 1

    Clarry in the midfield allows us to play Trac as a high half forward resulting in goals and goal assists.

    Without Trac we have JVR and Fritter as the goal-kicking key forwards. Kossie kicks goals but the other forward's Max/Grundy, Nibbler, Chandler, JJ/Spargo don't. Smith did well to hit the scoreboard but there are too many role players and not enough classy forward targets. Melksham would have been a better bet on Stewart.

    That forward set-up really needs a stingy defence to assist in kicking a winning score.

  • Quote
    • Like 2
      On 23/06/2023 at 09:10, beelzebub said:

    Umm... cough... last night....cough..

    Yet we defeated the Pies without Oliver

  • Quote
    • Like 2

      On 23/06/2023 at 09:12, dees189227 said:

    Stewart got fined $1500 for that cheap shot on viney

    Money irrelevant imo...  no one flew the flag... pathetic.  

    He's the first to do so..no one for him. 

  • Quote
    • Like 3
      On 23/06/2023 at 09:22, Macca said:

    Yet we defeated the Pies without Oliver

    An aberration both ways i think.

    Every other coach will have their strategists watching our game ( last night )

     

  • Quote
    • Like 1
      On 23/06/2023 at 09:22, beelzebub said:

    Money irrelevant imo...  no one flew the flag... pathetic.  

    He's the first to do so..no one for him. 

    That’s a real “tell”, culturally, innit - unless no one saw it

  • Quote
    • Like 2
      On 23/06/2023 at 01:47, Kozzie4PM said:

    I may have this wrong but you seem to be suggesting Petracca doesn't bring his best to the big moments. Which would be an odd criticism of a Norm Smith medallist.

    Don’t want to speak for the poster but that’s n=1. I think one could make the point that there’s a sample now (this year) where similar examples are missing - at critical junctures. 

  • Quote
    • Like 2

      On 23/06/2023 at 08:42, Macca said:

    We really missed Oliver last night after Viney was so very good against the Pies

    And Oliver is a real last quarter crunch-time player ... he plays and we're at least closer

    Can't have an elite player like him out for too long as when you play the better teams they will exploit his absence

    The unanswered question is why Kozzie isn't being used in the middle for that x-factor or to just change things up.  Get him into the play to get his numbers up I say.  Just hands on the ball with a receive-and-go would help

    In my opinion kossie is not a midfielder, does not get enough of the ball to do damage, leave him in the forward line but in a different role should never go past CHF, they have to learn to ping the ball around to get it into the forward line in different angles, but we will just keep going down the line.

  • Quote
    • Like 2

    If anyone watches the replay again, have a look at the faces and attitude of the team coming out of the race There was a mantra in 2021 of having fun and enjoying each others company. The team looks to be lacking internal spark. I also wonder if the supporter base is not quite up for it either at the minute. 

  • Quote
    • Like 2
      On 23/06/2023 at 09:46, DEE32 said:

    If anyone watches the replay again, have a look at the faces and attitude of the team coming out of the race There was a mantra in 2021 of having fun and enjoying each others company. The team looks to be lacking internal spark. I also wonder if the supporter base is not quite up for it either at the minute. 

    Didn't know the supporter base played for the club, when did they extend the playing list?

  • Quote
    • Haha 1
     
      On 23/06/2023 at 09:12, bing181 said:

    Stafford can't make up for the fact that we don't have the cattle. The extreme of your position is that you could take Mooroopna thirds and turn them into an AFL team with great coaching. Sooner or later, you need the players who can do the job, and for key position forwards we just don't have them.

    I would still suggest he hasnt a clue about forward patterns and craft.  There is some talent there, but manifestly misdirected. 

    Blind Freddy can see we areva mess up front. That's someone's job. That someone is Stafford.

     

  • Quote
    • Like 4
      On 23/06/2023 at 09:24, beelzebub said:

    An aberration both ways i think.

    Every other coach will have their strategists watching our game ( last night )

     

    You’re such a drama queen. Other coaches can have all the strategies they like. Fact is our best is the best. Run Oliver and Petty back into touch and look out

  • Quote
    • Like 2

    Join the conversation

    You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

    Guest
    Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
    Reply to this topic...
    Go to topic listing

    Featured Content

    • NON-MFC: Round 06

      The Easter Round kicks off in style with a Thursday night showdown between Brisbane and Collingwood, as both sides look to solidify their spots inside the Top 4 early in the season. Good Friday brings a double-header, with Carlton out to claim consecutive wins when they face the struggling Kangaroos, while later that night the Eagles host the Bombers in Perth, still chasing their first victory of the year. Saturday features another marquee clash as the resurgent Crows look to rebound from back-to-back losses against a formidable GWS outfit. That evening, all eyes will be on Marvel Stadium where Damien Hardwick returns to face his old side—the Tigers—coaching the Suns at a ground he's never hidden his disdain for. Sunday offers two crucial contests where the prize is keeping touch with the Top 8. First, Sydney and Port Adelaide go head-to-head, followed by a fierce battle between the Bulldogs and the Saints. Then, Easter Monday delivers the traditional clash between two bitter rivals, both desperate for a win to stay in touch with the top end of the ladder. Who are you tipping this week and what are the best results for the Demons?

        • Thanks
      • 9 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • REPORT: Essendon

      What were they thinking? I mean by “they” the coaching panel and team selectors who chose the team to play against an opponent who, like Melbourne, had made a poor start to the season and who they appeared perfectly capable of beating in what was possibly the last chance to turn the season around.It’s no secret that the Demons’ forward line is totally dysfunctional, having opened the season barely able to average sixty points per game which means there has been no semblance of any system from the team going forward into attack. Nevertheless, on Saturday night at the Adelaide Oval in one of the Gather Round showcase games, Melbourne, with Max Gawn dominating the hit outs against a depleted Essendon ruck resulting from Nick Bryan’s early exit, finished just ahead in clearances won and found itself inside the 50 metre arc 51 times to 43. The end result was a final score that had the Bombers winning 15.6 (96) to 8.9 (57). On balance, one could expect this to result in a two or three goal win, but in this case, it translated into a six and a half goal defeat because they only managed to convert eight times or 11.68% of their entries. The Bombers more than doubled that. On Thursday night at the same ground, the losing team Adelaide managed to score 100 points from almost the same number of times inside 50.

        • Sad
        • Clap
        • Like
      • 0 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • PODCAST: Essendon

      The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 14th April @ the all new time of 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we dissect another Demons loss at Kardinia Park to the Cats in the Round 04. Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show. If you would like to leave us a voicemail please call 03 9016 3666 and don't worry no body answers so you don't have to talk to a human.

        • Thanks
      • 56 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • PREGAME: Fremantle

      The Demons return home to the MCG in search of their first win for the 2025 Premiership season when they take on the Fremantle Dockers on Saturday afternoon. Who comes in and who goes out?

        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 176 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • VOTES: Essendon

      Max Gawn leads the Demonland Player of the Year ahead of Clayton Oliver, Christian Petracca, Kade Chandler and Jake Bowey. Your votes please. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 & 1.

        • Thanks
      • 24 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • POSTGAME: Essendon

      Despite a spirited third quarter surge, the Demons have slumped to their worst start to a season since 2012, remaining winless and second last on the ladder after a 39-point defeat to Essendon at Adelaide Oval in Gather Round.

        • Vomit
        • Sad
        • Thanks
      • 271 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland
    View All