POSTGAME: Rd 15 vs Geelong

[beelzebub 23,390]

5 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Smith showing his lack of footy nouse and being consistently outmanoeuvred by Stewart has nothing to do with Stafford.

Stop blaming the coaches, the team just isn't as good as what many here seem to think. That's why we lose matches.

Surely its up to Stafford to know what his charges can and cant do...and makeceffects to remedy it or call time.

Thats his bloody job surely.

Players dont pick themselves, players dont devise the game. Thats ALL the Coaches domain ...so yeah....some here will call them out.

[dazzledavey36 55,866]

1 minute ago, beelzebub said:

Surely its up to Stafford to know what his charges can and cant do...and makeceffects to remedy it or call time.

Thats his bloody job surely.

Players dont pick themselves, players dont devise the game. Thats ALL the Coaches domain ...so yeah....some here will call them out.

I've lost faith in Stafford. He can go at the end of the year.

[Macca 17,113]

1 hour ago, Redlagged said:

You don't say.

Yeah the reason why the obvious needs to be said is that too many want to focus on inconsequential subject matter like a player here or there making the odd error

Big picture says that the connection from the mids to the forwards needs to be addressed

Edited June 23, 2023 by Macca

[Gorgoroth 13,184]

19 minutes ago, Macca said:

We really missed Oliver last night after Viney was so very good against the Pies

And Oliver is a real last quarter crunch-time player ... he plays and we're at least closer

Can't have an elite player like him out for too long as when you play the better teams they will exploit his absence

The unanswered question is why Kozzie isn't being used in the middle for that x-factor or to just change things up.  Get him into the play to get his numbers up I say.  Just hands on the ball with a receive-and-go would help

Clarrie clears the contests with the first disposal which makes us look quick and move it quick.

Sparrow does it occasionally, Trac too but Clarrie does it a lot.

[Macca 17,113]

3 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

Clarrie clears the contests with the first disposal which makes us look quick and move it quick.

Sparrow does it occasionally, Trac too but Clarrie does it a lot.

That's right and we can only cover for Oliver for so long before his absence gets exploited

[beelzebub 23,390]

1 minute ago, Macca said:

That's right and we can only cover for Oliver for so long before his absence gets exploited

Umm... cough... last night....cough..

[Gorgoroth 13,184]

2 minutes ago, Macca said:

That's right and we can only cover for Oliver for so long before his absence gets exploited

Well we better get a new plan cos it’s being exploited and Clarrie has said his hammy is still sore.

[dees189227 12,453]

Stewart got fined $1500 for that cheap shot on viney

[bing181 9,424]

8 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Surely its up to Stafford to know what his charges can and cant do...and makeceffects to remedy it or call time.

Stafford can't make up for the fact that we don't have the cattle. The extreme of your position is that you could take Mooroopna thirds and turn them into an AFL team with great coaching. Sooner or later, you need the players who can do the job, and for key position forwards we just don't have them.

[layzie 34,335]

51 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

What they are saying at Victoria Park 

“How on earth did we lose to this mob on Kings Birthday”.

Who cares 

[layzie 34,335]

1 hour ago, demon3165 said:

May is not known for his agility...

Yeah but you don't need agility to run in a straight line 

[Superunknown 4,241]

5 hours ago, layzie said:

Nice one mate! What kind of clubs are you rocking?

Had the same clubs from age 14 to 30. Cr-ppy cheap Rapiers (which actuallly still hit really, really well).  Bought some Mizuno MP32s but couldn’t hit them so now have some circa 1998 Titleist DCIs. TM Sim Max D/3W, Ping Anser and set of Cleveland 588 special Ws at 49/56/60. Probably swap the 56 back to a very nice Hogan 54. The DCIs are waaaay under loft - would love to hit a new cavity. 
 

Just practice though - as has always been, and always will be. 

[Older demon 2,799]

Clarry in the midfield allows us to play Trac as a high half forward resulting in goals and goal assists.

Without Trac we have JVR and Fritter as the goal-kicking key forwards. Kossie kicks goals but the other forward's Max/Grundy, Nibbler, Chandler, JJ/Spargo don't. Smith did well to hit the scoreboard but there are too many role players and not enough classy forward targets. Melksham would have been a better bet on Stewart.

That forward set-up really needs a stingy defence to assist in kicking a winning score.

[DeeMee 923]

Crackers Keenan - “You can’t pull up your socks if you’re not wearing any.”

[Macca 17,113]

11 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Umm... cough... last night....cough..

Yet we defeated the Pies without Oliver

[beelzebub 23,390]

9 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

Stewart got fined $1500 for that cheap shot on viney

Money irrelevant imo...  no one flew the flag... pathetic.  

He's the first to do so..no one for him. 

[beelzebub 23,390]

1 minute ago, Macca said:

Yet we defeated the Pies without Oliver

An aberration both ways i think.

Every other coach will have their strategists watching our game ( last night )

 

[Superunknown 4,241]

8 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Money irrelevant imo...  no one flew the flag... pathetic.  

He's the first to do so..no one for him. 

That’s a real “tell”, culturally, innit - unless no one saw it

[Superunknown 4,241]

7 hours ago, Kozzie4PM said:

I may have this wrong but you seem to be suggesting Petracca doesn't bring his best to the big moments. Which would be an odd criticism of a Norm Smith medallist.

Don’t want to speak for the poster but that’s n=1. I think one could make the point that there’s a sample now (this year) where similar examples are missing - at critical junctures. 

[demon3165 2,832]

19 minutes ago, layzie said:

Yeah but you don't need agility to run in a straight line 

He was turned inside out though.

[demon3165 2,832]

54 minutes ago, Macca said:

We really missed Oliver last night after Viney was so very good against the Pies

And Oliver is a real last quarter crunch-time player ... he plays and we're at least closer

Can't have an elite player like him out for too long as when you play the better teams they will exploit his absence

The unanswered question is why Kozzie isn't being used in the middle for that x-factor or to just change things up.  Get him into the play to get his numbers up I say.  Just hands on the ball with a receive-and-go would help

In my opinion kossie is not a midfielder, does not get enough of the ball to do damage, leave him in the forward line but in a different role should never go past CHF, they have to learn to ping the ball around to get it into the forward line in different angles, but we will just keep going down the line.

[DEE32 100]

If anyone watches the replay again, have a look at the faces and attitude of the team coming out of the race There was a mantra in 2021 of having fun and enjoying each others company. The team looks to be lacking internal spark. I also wonder if the supporter base is not quite up for it either at the minute. 

[demon3165 2,832]

2 minutes ago, DEE32 said:

If anyone watches the replay again, have a look at the faces and attitude of the team coming out of the race There was a mantra in 2021 of having fun and enjoying each others company. The team looks to be lacking internal spark. I also wonder if the supporter base is not quite up for it either at the minute. 

Didn't know the supporter base played for the club, when did they extend the playing list?

[beelzebub 23,390]

42 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Stafford can't make up for the fact that we don't have the cattle. The extreme of your position is that you could take Mooroopna thirds and turn them into an AFL team with great coaching. Sooner or later, you need the players who can do the job, and for key position forwards we just don't have them.

I would still suggest he hasnt a clue about forward patterns and craft.  There is some talent there, but manifestly misdirected. 

Blind Freddy can see we areva mess up front. That's someone's job. That someone is Stafford.

 

[Roost it far 9,528]

47 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

An aberration both ways i think.

Every other coach will have their strategists watching our game ( last night )

 

You’re such a drama queen. Other coaches can have all the strategies they like. Fact is our best is the best. Run Oliver and Petty back into touch and look out