Admission of Tanking?

[Demonland 74,457]

Sounds like an admission of tanking? Dees got investigated and punished for a similar comment by Brock McLean. Where’s the AFL Integrity Unit?

[Slartibartfast 18,124]

9 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Sounds like an admission of tanking? Dees got investigated and punished for a similar comment by Brock McLean. Where’s the AFL Integrity Unit?

Time to let the victimhood go Demonland. We’ve won a flag and have a great list. Let’s enjoy that. 

[sue 9,277]

1 minute ago, Slartibartfast said:

Time to let the victimhood go Demonland. We’ve won a flag and have a great list. Let’s enjoy that. 

Why? I can enjoy all that and still expect fair dealing.  You won't get that in the future if you just acquiesce in accepting bad behaviour in the past.

[Hellaintabadplacetobe 4,335]

After reading the article I can't see any admissions of tanking.

They knew a loss would hand them Cotchin however he said he had no instructions from board level and that he just had to let the boys play and see how it panned out. 

[GM11 793]

You have a draft system You have incentive to "not try too hard".

Not coaching to win is the same as not playing to win.

[Demon Disciple 12,537]

1 hour ago, Slartibartfast said:

Time to let the victimhood go Demonland. We’ve won a flag and have a great list. Let’s enjoy that. 

To hell with that. We were fined 500k by the AFL. If they do nothing on this latest fiasco, they should give us that money back

[Tracca 862]

4 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

To hell with that. We were fined 500k by the AFL. If they do nothing on this latest fiasco, they should give us that money back

why? if you actually read the article Terry clearly states he let the boys play but was concerned it was getting so close. move on and stop trying to shift blame

[Gouga 570]

1 minute ago, Demon Disciple said:

To hell with that. We were fined 500k by the AFL. If they do nothing on this latest fiasco, they should give us that money back

Please send the cheque to gary pert, ceo, melbourne football club...

The stupid thing is in round 22 2007 is richmond and carlton secured cotchin/priority pick respectively by losing. We are the ones that went out and won, effectively costing us a priority pick in 2007 and a better priority pick in 2008 (blease pick would have been natanui).

It was the system, not the teams. I see no difference between the richmond coaches discussing the benefit of securing cotchin during a game than connolley/bailey discussing the benefit of securing scully and trengove during a meeting. 

[Gouga 570]

3 minutes ago, Tracca said:

why? if you actually read the article Terry clearly states he let the boys play but was concerned it was getting so close. move on and stop trying to shift blame

Remember we were cleared of trying to lose games. We got fined for being the employer of connolley and bailey, because they discussed the benefit of losing games. Wallace just admitted doing the same thing. 

[sue 9,277]

16 minutes ago, Tracca said:

why? if you actually read the article Terry clearly states he let the boys play but was concerned it was getting so close. move on and stop trying to shift blame

That last phrase makes me wonder. Has anyone tried to shift blame?  No, they are merely saying it is unfair if others commit the same fault and get away with it.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,468]

The reason we were investigated was because Anderson was in charge while Demetriou was overseas. Notice Anderson didn't last too much longer after that. The AFL knows clubs tanked but don't want to admit it hence the investigations into Carlton went nowhere despite Libbas admissions (which he subsequently recanted - gee wonder why?)

[Master Deebater 500]

3 hours ago, Demonland said:

Sounds like an admission of tanking? Dees got investigated and punished for a similar comment by Brock McLean. Where’s the AFL Integrity Unit?

Have no fear. Carolyn Wilson will be right onto it

[layzie 34,528]

14 minutes ago, Hardley Benial said:

Have no fear. Carolyn Wilson will be right onto it

If she can get that heavy Richmond hat off first!

[Kick_It_To_Pickett 3,293]

Pretty sure Tony Liberatore admitted to Carlton tanking in an interview too - was never investigated. We were an easy target. He was an assistant coach at the time 

 

Edited June 18, 2023 by Kick_It_To_Pickett

[Fork 'em 7,052]

7 minutes ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

Pretty sure Tony Liberatore admitted to Carlton tanking in an interview too - was never investigated. We were an easy target. He was an assistant coach at the time 

 

The AFL made him an offer he couldn't refuse.
Shushed him up real quick.
Then he disappeared from sight.

[Fritta and Turner 4,697]

9 hours ago, Demonland said:

Where’s the AFL Integrity Unit?

Down the pub getting the bets on

[Doug Reemer 1,208]

9 hours ago, Demonland said:

Sounds like an admission of tanking? Dees got investigated and punished for a similar comment by Brock McLean. Where’s the AFL Integrity Unit?

Everyone ranked in that era.

We essentially got fined because we were [censored] at tanking!

[Redleg 42,181]

9 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

To hell with that. We were fined 500k by the AFL. If they do nothing on this latest fiasco, they should give us that money back

I don't think we actually ever paid that.

[Redleg 42,181]

1 hour ago, Doug Reemer said:

Everyone ranked in that era.

We essentially got fined because we were [censored] at tanking!

It probably has more to do with your surname.

[Bring Back Barassi 552]

11 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

To hell with that. We were fined 500k by the AFL. If they do nothing on this latest fiasco, they should give us that money back

Yeah then they gave it all back plus a whole lot more, and a CEO and legendary coach

Edited June 18, 2023 by Bring Back Barassi

[redandbluemakepurple 377]

11 hours ago, Gouga said:

Remember we were cleared of trying to lose games. We got fined for being the employer of connolley and bailey, because they discussed the benefit of losing games. Wallace just admitted doing the same thing. 

Nah, the AFL wimped out and ran that line to hide our and the games disgrace.  The newspapers reported (and did not get sued) that senior officials explicitly berated the players for being ahead.

 

[MT64 1,148]

9 hours ago, Redleg said:

I don't think we actually ever paid that.

I actually heard a story that the AFL increased our grant by $500k for us to pay them back. Unable to verify the story but my source was very bullish with their comments.

[layzie 34,528]

14 hours ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

Pretty sure Tony Liberatore admitted to Carlton tanking in an interview too - was never investigated. We were an easy target. He was an assistant coach at the time 

 

As someone said recently, the AFL must have a brilliant carpet sales guy on their speed dial.  

[Demonland 74,457]

1 hour ago, layzie said:

As someone said recently, the AFL must have a brilliant carpet sales guy on their speed dial.  

[Ugottobekidding 1,244]

Any chance Freo can tank