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CASEY: Rd 11 vs Southport

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1 minute ago, Diamond Tim said:

I agree with Bill Shorten......

So does 90% of this site.

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    1 minute ago, whatwhat say what said:

    Yeah doesn’t impose himself on the game with physicality but always runs to the right spots and is a lovely kick both at goal and around the ground

    That's what I sort of thought - feel we need our bigger bodies to be crashing packs, inflicting pain.....

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    3 minutes ago, Diamond Tim said:

    That's what I sort of thought - feel we need our bigger bodies to be crashing packs, inflicting pain.....

    He’s bigger enough to impose himself. The Pies aren’t big

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    1 minute ago, Roost it far said:

    He’s bigger enough to impose himself. The Pies aren’t big

    Agree he's big enough - issue is whether he'll use that size to actually impose himself....

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    Just now, Diamond Tim said:

    Agree he's big enough - issue is whether he'll use that size to actually impose himself....

    Kids on his last chance, as long as he goes when it’s his turn I’m happy.

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    In the highlights I saw of Jefferson playing as a junior, it seemed he excelled in an emptied out forward line where he could beat a 1 on 1 opponent.
    I believe he won’t get this at Casey in the same line up as seasoned vets like brown/tmac and even Schache. Whether or not he needs this to exploit his greatest attributes is yet to be seen. 
    Happy for him to have something of a gap year, developing in the gym and working on adding strings to his bow whilst we have other options ahead of him. 

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    30 minutes ago, Diamond Tim said:

    Be interested on your take on The Shack - I haven't seen much of him at Casey but during the game with the D's I thought he looked like he had good skills with ball in hand but didn't use his size to impose himself - bit like the Weed, tentative at times....am I misreading his game?

    No. Suggest you seek a job at the Deez as JT's 2IC.

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    50 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

    Kids on his last chance, as long as he goes when it’s his turn I’m happy.

    Who is the subject of these last 4 posts?  Is it the skinny first year player Jefferson?  🤦

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    1 hour ago, Gator said:

    So does 90% of this site.

    Feeling a bit MFC 2013?

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    14 minutes ago, old55 said:

    Feeling a bit MFC 2013?

    A bit too cryptic for me, old friend.

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    3 hours ago, Roost it far said:

    Jefferson strengths

    marking when alone

    Don't understand as a supposed Melb. supporter why you would continually bag a 19 year old kid?  Just bizarre. And while you're at it, listen to your inner voice, the one that tells you to STFU.

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    1 hour ago, monoccular said:

    Who is the subject of these last 4 posts?  Is it the skinny first year player Jefferson?  🤦

    Schache, c’mon champ keep up 

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    7 minutes ago, dee-tox said:

    Don't understand as a supposed Melb. supporter why you would continually bag a 19 year old kid?  Just bizarre. And while you're at it, listen to your inner voice, the one that tells you to STFU.

    It’s not saying that. It’s saying ignore the noise you know you’re right. I’m actually not bagging him, this is a cut throat business and I don’t see enough strengths for this guy to become a regular player at the level. You may believe differently and that’s fine. Isn’t this a discussion forum? you’ve resorted to abuse as your form of discussion I’m just stating what I see. Maybe watch a few Casey games and give us your view of his strengths 

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    32 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

    It’s not saying that. It’s saying ignore the noise you know you’re right. I’m actually not bagging him, this is a cut throat business and I don’t see enough strengths for this guy to become a regular player at the level. You may believe differently and that’s fine. Isn’t this a discussion forum? you’ve resorted to abuse as your form of discussion I’m just stating what I see. Maybe watch a few Casey games and give us your view of his strengths 

    i watch casey's every game

    he was much better earlier in the season when he didn't have additional talls competing in the same role

    positives based on what i've seen:

    • he runs to the right spots
    • his hands are quite good
    • his kicking shows penetration and accuracy

    negatives based on what i've seen:

    • he doesn't appear to have much tank
    • he's as skinny as a rake
    • his hangs his head when things don't go the way he wants

    you're just another hanrahan, typical of too many on this platform that want perfection and only ever look for the negative

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    9 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

    i watch casey's every game

    he was much better earlier in the season when he didn't have additional talls competing in the same role

    positives based on what i've seen:

    • he runs to the right spots
    • his hands are quite good
    • his kicking shows penetration and accuracy

    negatives based on what i've seen:

    • he doesn't appear to have much tank
    • he's as skinny as a rake
    • his hangs his head when things don't go the way he wants

    you're just another hanrahan, typical of too many on this platform that want perfection and only ever look for the negative

    Thanks for your observations. I’ll stop critiquing the kid as it clearly offends some. It’s not meant to although my tone isn’t always great 

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    4 hours ago, 12345_54321 said:

    Our forward structure was Brown-Tmac, Fritta and Gawn/Jackson in our Premiership year. Our defence was Petty May Lever.

    It never needed to be changed other than personnel. 2 key defenders and the interceptor. And 2 key forwards and medium tall with a resting ruckman. 

    Brown standing in the square alleviates so much pressure from Roo purely by the defender he takes. Fritsch gets a third tall who he can play off if Brown is there. I struggle to understand why people can’t see it to be honest.

    Generals fight the last war

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    8 hours ago, Diamond Tim said:

    The Gasometer marks n goals. Too easy...

    Brayden Crossley ‘the fridge’ (double door version). Former Gold Coast Sun rookie. Delisted under a cloud. An absolute monster in the flesh. The ‘Weed’ gave him the run around in the second half of last year’s VFL Grannie.

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    POINT WELL MADE by KC from Casey 

    The Casey Demons had a number of points to make to themselves, their opponents and the VFL football world when they traveled up to the Gold Coast to take on the Southport Sharks in the 2022 Grand Final rematch at Fankhauser Reserve. 

    After living the glory of an almost perfect premiership, the Demons stumbled after winning the opening four games of the season and have struggled in their recent northern state sojourns - their only loss in 2022 came at the hands of the Lions in Brisbane and they were given a touch up by Gold Coast in Round 7. Last week, a team of 14 Melbourne listed players folded like a rickety card table in the final term of their match at Werribee. Suddenly, they were in fifth place with a few competitors breathing down their necks. Add some injuries and a suspension and Casey’s season was on the line.

    As it was a week earlier against Werribee, the Demons were pitted against a committed team with some experienced mature bodies, desperate for a victory to keep them finals contention. This time however, the Demons maintained their composure for most of the game and they were able to do so through the agency of their mix of AFL and VFL listers. Of the former, two in particular stood out.

    Josh Schache started proceedings for the visitors with the opening goal of the game in its opening minutes. He kicked his second before half time and then booted his team’s only two goals in the last including the final score late in the match that put Casey in front by a solitary point. Apart from his accuracy when up forward, Schache fought valiantly in the ruck against Southport’s man mountain, Brayden Crossley who was called in to the task after the injury to Jake Bell. Crossley was dominant in the ruck duels but Schache's contribution around the ground as well as up forward which included 15 possessions, seven marks, four tackles, and five hitouts on top of the four straight goals was crucial.

    James Jordon has spent much of 2023 on the cusp at Melbourne with a number of appearances as a substitute. He was back in the midfield at Casey this week but his prolific 30 disposal display was sublime, on top of which his five clearances, and four tackles and a goal were timely given Clayton Oliver’s injury and James Harmes’ suspension ahead of the Kings Birthday blockbuster. This spectacular goal has all of the hallmarks of goal of the year.

    Casey was well led by Mitch White and the experienced Matt Buntine and fueled by outstanding performances from Roan Steele (23 touches, 10 marks) and George Grey (3 goals, 16 disposals, 5 marks and 6 tackles). Two of Grey’s goals came late in the third term after the Sharks had wrested the lead for the first time in almost an hour of play, a contribution that gave the visitors an 8 point lead at the final break. 

    A few young Demons who are pushing hard for AFL promotion in Blake Howes (23 touches, 8 marks), Taj Woewodin (23 disposals, six tackles and three clearances) and Bailey Laurie (22 touches, six tackles) were all busy. Deakyn Smith played a strong game as the small defender while Daniel Turner, Andy Moniz-Wakefield and Ollie Sestan all had their moments. Together, they put together a fine team effort and made their points well in the Queensland sun.

    With the upcoming Kings Birthday weekend, the Demons return to their home fortress for a match up against Collingwood VFL next Sunday.

    CASEY DEMONS 1.2.8 6.6.42 9.9.63 11.10.76

    SOUTHPORT SHARKS 3.0.18 4.5.29 8.7.55 11.9.75

    GOALS 

    CASEY DEMONS Schache 4 Grey 3 Brown 2 Jordon Sestan 

    SOUTHPORT SHARKS Crossley Foggo Lockett Lockhart 2 Fields Heron Thurlow

    BEST

    CASEY DEMONS Jordon Grey Schache Laurie Steele Howes

    SOUTHPORT SHARKS Woodcock Crossley Joyce Dawson Thurlow Spencer

    Statistics 

    Jed Adams 3 kicks 2 handballs 5 disposals 1 mark 13 dream team points
    Riley Baldi 4 kicks 4 handballs 8 disposals 3 marks 2 tackles 38 dream team points
    Jack Bell 2 handballs 2 disposals 1 tackle 6 hit outs 14 dream team points [injured]
    Ben Brown 2 goals 1 behind 8 kicks 2 handballs 10 disposals 4 marks 1 tackle 56 dream team points
    Matt Buntine 7 kicks 9 handballs 16 disposals 1 mark 2 tackles 47 dream team points 
    Tom Freeman 12 kicks 2 handballs 14 disposals  4 marks 50 dream team points
    Rhys Galvin 2 kicks 2 handballs 4 disposals 1 mark 1 tackle 17 dream team points
    George Grey 3 goals 1 behind 11 kicks 5 handballs 16 disposals 5 marks 6 tackles 102 dream team points
    Blake Howes 14 kicks 9 handballs 23 disposals 8 marks 81 dream team points
    Matt Jefferson 1 behind 4 kicks 2 handballs 6 disposals 3 marks 1 tackle 27 dream team points
    James Jordon 1 goal 15 kicks 15 handballs 30 disposals 3 marks 4 tackles 104 dream team points
    Bailey Laurie 1 behind 16 kicks 6 handballs 22 disposals 3 marks 6 tackles 97 dream team points
    Andy Moniz-Wakefield 1 behind 8 kicks 5 handballs 13 disposals 4 marks 4 tackles 63 dream team points 
    Harvey Neocleous 10 kicks 4 handballs 14 disposals 4 marks 2 tackles 58 dream team points
    Josh Schache 4 goals 8 kicks 5 handballs 13 disposals 7 marks 4 tackles 105 dream team points 
    Oliver Sestan 1 goal 1 behind 7 kicks 1 handball 8 disposals 1 mark 4 tackles 51 dream team points
    Miles Shepherd 6 kicks 2 handballs 8 disposals  4 marks 2 tackles 40 dream team points
    Deaykin Smith 14 kicks 4 handballs 18 disposals 5 marks 2 tackles 76 dream team points
    Roan Steele 16 kicks 7 handballs 23 disposals 10 marks 1 tackle 93 dream team points
    Daniel Turner 11 kicks 4 handballs 15 disposals 5 marks 56 dream team points
    Ryan Valentine 1 behind 2 kicks 5 handballs 7 disposals 1 mark 1 hit out 18 dream team points
    Mitch White 1 behind 11 kicks 8 handballs 19 disposals 2 marks 6 tackles 75 dream team points
    Taj Woewodin 1 behind 10 kicks 13 handballs 23 disposals 2 marks 6 tackles 76 dream team points

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    Very impressive 2nd half from Grey.

    Attended a number of CBs and looked 'ok'.

    Pushed forward for some quality involvements and goals then a fab marking attempt that resulted in a free on the boundary late in the final quarter was very gutsy to hold up play and get us going towards 50.

    Shown some very good signs in patches in a number of other games over the years but today was another level imho.

    What do the Casey experts think and where are we at here in terms of getting him on our list?

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    7 hours ago, Diamond Tim said:

    Agree that there are coaching issues but basic skill and decision making processes seem to be playing a significant part in the equation too - Angus Brayshaw hitting a Baggers defender on the chest when he was 20 metres clear of opposition and with 3 D fwds clear and begging for it is illustrative of why our scoring rate has slumped. As are the simple set shot misses ( Chandler last night was sub sub par for eg)

    There seems to be a lot more selfishness in the forward 50 as well. 

    I was stunned at Frittas snap goal when Chandler was standing all by himself in the goal square last night.

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    13 minutes ago, Brownie said:

    There seems to be a lot more selfishness in the forward 50 as well. 

    I was stunned at Frittas snap goal when Chandler was standing all by himself in the goal square last night.

    Probably for the other game thread, Brownie, but I think 'snap' is a bit harsh. He had, and took, his time, and on second and subsequent looks I reckon the angle was less, and the distance to the closing defender greater, than they first appeared.

    Though 'Chin' did look somewhat less than congratulatory...

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    13 minutes ago, Brownie said:

    There seems to be a lot more selfishness in the forward 50 as well. 

    I was stunned at Frittas snap goal when Chandler was standing all by himself in the goal square last night.

    He kicked a goal that he's paid to kick, did kick & would kick every day of the week.

    I would rather Fritsch take the shot than start 2nd guessing himself.

     

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