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  On 11/05/2023 at 08:13, DutchDemons said:

Where do I watch this?

Netflix

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      On 11/05/2023 at 08:23, McQueen said:

    Netflix

    It’s a 6 part special with how long this has gone on. 
     

    Episode 1: The Stretcher 

    Episode 2: MRO’s day out 

    Episode 3: Tribunal Tribulations 

    Episode 4: OUTRAGE

    Episode 5: The Appeal

    Episode 6: JVR on winning the Coleman

    Edited by Jaded No More

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    Meanwhile JVR has been named at FF 

    love the optimism from the club ♥️💙

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    Houghton (Melbourne): This attempt to impose a regime of health and safety upon players when construing a rule like 18.5 is quite wrong. 

    We are about to find out whether the appeal board has any skerrick of integrity and independence left.

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    Nice 'flex' from the Dees - as it all happens concurrently...

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      On 11/05/2023 at 08:22, Diamond_Jim said:

    the standard of care would be quite high in the area of possible concussion so I'm not sure it helps

    The framing of the charge on grounds similar to a tortious complaint is perhaps a dangerous misconception in the area of a disciplinary tribunal.

    Yep it has been framed like that and Counsel for the AFL has argued it that way in his submission by saying "he needed to take care and he failed to take care".

    But what I'm trying to do is ascertain how he failed to take reasonable care. What was he supposed to do? What would the reasonable person have done? It is accepted he intended to spoil the ball. He tried to spoil the ball and just missed. It wasn't a roundhouse or swinging arm spoil. I'm really not sure what the AFL are saying he should've done other than pull out of the contest.

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    Wednesday Adams has just taken the stand for the Dees talking about Vicarious Intent and pure Accident. Seems her logic is impeccable!!

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      On 10/05/2023 at 14:42, GBDee said:

    Change petition now garnering worldwide attention with my signature in England. Forwarded it to my mate who’s a North London Lions player who’s passing it on to their squad WhatsApp group. 😁

    Free the Roo One. Am so glad the club has appealed this. 

    💪 Nice! I signed it in the US and then jumped on a plane to Europe. Now Im gonna sign it again here

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      On 11/05/2023 at 08:27, Demon Dynasty said:

    Houghton (Melbourne): This attempt to impose a regime of health and safety upon players when construing a rule like 18.5 is quite wrong. 

    We are about to find out whether the appeal board has any skerrick of integrity and independence left.

    THANK YOU HOUGHTON!!

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    The Rules have to be read in conjunction with the Regulations. Google afl regulations.

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    As for the reasonable test, what sort of precedent does it establish if his suspension is upheld? 

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      On 11/05/2023 at 08:30, Scoop Junior said:

    Yep it has been framed like that and Counsel for the AFL has argued it that way in his submission by saying "he needed to take care and he failed to take care".

    But what I'm trying to do is ascertain how he failed to take reasonable care. What was he supposed to do? What would the reasonable person have done? It is accepted he intended to spoil the ball. He tried to spoil the ball and just missed. It wasn't a roundhouse or swinging arm spoil. I'm really not sure what the AFL are saying he should've done other than pull out of the contest.

    If you frame it in tortious terms the standard would be to ensure you execute the interception in a non contact manner

    IMO they are mixing concepts badly

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      On 11/05/2023 at 08:33, layzie said:

    If Houghton wins do the AFL have to pay his fees?

    I think we had to pay $10,000 to appeal which we get back if/when we win.

     

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      On 11/05/2023 at 08:11, dazzledavey36 said:

    He won't get off.

    This Woods guy is too much of a defence of duty of care for the player.

     

    Yes he will.

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    I’m not that impressed with our rebuttal. I expected more. 
    Also where was the argument that this isn’t a strike? 

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