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PREGAME: Rd 09 vs Hawthorn

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2 hours ago, rpfc said:

He’s serviceable. It’s still the glaring gap on our list moving into next year.

My point was at this stage he's serviceable as a forward and if it clicks, he'll be more. As Goodwin intimated in the presser, they want to give it a further try. Let's see if it works.

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    I expect JVR will be out so bring in the Shack (even though he's a lightweight), send Petty back and May forward.

     

    Hawks fancy their chances 

    Forwards Mitch Lewis Moore Breust 

    Contested footy Newcomb Worpel

    pace and run Jiath Day Amon

    Dees need to dominate in the ruck and get first use of the footy

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    I agree with (some) others that the Petty forward experiment should continue a little longer.

    If that fails, I think Schache should get another chance or chances.

     

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    1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

    Hawks fancy their chances 

    Forwards Mitch Lewis Moore Breust 

    Contested footy Newcomb Worpel

    pace and run Jiath Day Amon

    Dees need to dominate in the ruck and get first use of the footy

    You know they're on the bottom of the ladder with one win (vs North) and a percentage of 61.6%?

    They are below West Coast who have about 25 fit players, half of whom should be nowhere near AFL selection.

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    Really interested to hear that it seems Smith is now in front of Brown in the selection order.

    Brown went from two of his better games for us, ever, to an innocuous back injury, to completely out of form and now apparently not really that close to selection. A really disappointing two months for him.

    I've never been a Smith fan. I'm still not. We can't trust his body and I'm not sure he's smart enough to play forward. But I'm happy to be proven wrong - he was starting to prove me wrong in the first month last year as a defender before he got injured.

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    6 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

    Fitness isn’t the problem, if anything he might be too fit and we might’ve trained the speed out of him. 

    This comment is almost as good as my "Salem's body type is that of an ectomorph" circa 2015.

     

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    12 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

    Fitness isn’t the problem, if anything he might be too fit and we might’ve trained the speed out of him. 

    A week off or cutting his game time down towards 70% could help. But we might have to wait until the bye to see if there’s much change with a freshen up.

    From a fitness or sports science point of view are you able to elaborate further on what exact this even means??

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    8 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

    Hawks fancy their chances 

    Forwards Mitch Lewis Moore Breust 

    Contested footy Newcomb Worpel

    pace and run Jiath Day Amon

    Dees need to dominate in the ruck and get first use of the footy

    They're tanking SONS. I expect them to be decent early before falling away in the second half. It's been the pattern of their season so far.

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    14 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

    Fitness isn’t the problem, if anything he might be too fit and we might’ve trained the speed out of him. 

    A week off or cutting his game time down towards 70% could help. But we might have to wait until the bye to see if there’s much change with a freshen up.

    How so DS?

    Could it be too much time in the weight room or maybe too much focus on the aerobic endurance fitness and not enough high intensity anaerobic stuff like sprints? Keen to hear your thoughts. 

    I wonder what they are saying over at Linda Crescent, Glenferrie....


    11 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

    Hawks fancy their chances 

    Forwards Mitch Lewis Moore Breust 

    Contested footy Newcomb Worpel

    pace and run Jiath Day Amon

    Dees need to dominate in the ruck and get first use of the footy

    not in the same league as Clarrie, Trac et al

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    16 hours ago, The heart beats true said:

    I’m one of those whose firmly of the belief that Petty is currently a better option forward.

    Petty serves two roles. He takes the opposition key defender and playmaker like Collins from GC or McCartin/McDonald from Sydney, Weitering from Carlton, McGovern from WCE etc and tries to stop their intercept marks. Against Geelong he would probably play Stewart and against the Pies probably Mihocek.

    The other is clearly to mark and kick goals himself.

    He isn't being recognised on here for the first paragraph.

     

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    25 minutes ago, Salems Lot said:

    I wonder what they are saying over at Linda Crescent, Glenferrie....

    From the coles car park? Or the council leisure centre? There’s not much else happening around there these days 😊

    Edited by Glorious Day

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    8 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

    Petty serves two roles. He takes the opposition key defender and playmaker like Collins from GC or McCartin/McDonald from Sydney, Weitering from Carlton, McGovern from WCE etc and tries to stop their intercept marks. Against Geelong he would probably play Stewart and against the Pies probably Mihocek.

    The other is clearly to mark and kick goals himself.

    He isn't being recognised on here for the first paragraph.

     

    Maybe but he's sure not performing the second. I do think he's a great defender.

    It's not to say he can't play forward.  It may take him some time to learn the craft but I'm not sure we can risk it. Certainly not with a 6 gamer playing alongside him. I hope I'm wrong. 

    Edited by leave it to deever

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    17 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said:

    Yep, it will be good to see Frosty play - keeps us all full of smiles and tolerances - admire his speed, too.

    The only ex player currently playing Afl that keeps giving back to the Mfc.

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    2 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

    The only ex player currently playing Afl that keeps giving back to the Mfc.

    Pretty sure Sauce Baker handballed it straight back to Tracc when we played the Dogs!

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    10 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

    Really interested to hear that it seems Smith is now in front of Brown in the selection order.

    Brown went from two of his better games for us, ever, to an innocuous back injury, to completely out of form and now apparently not really that close to selection. A really disappointing two months for him.

    I've never been a Smith fan. I'm still not. We can't trust his body and I'm not sure he's smart enough to play forward. But I'm happy to be proven wrong - he was starting to prove me wrong in the first month last year as a defender before he got injured.

    Hmmm and how exactly have you landed on that assessment?

    IMHO

    Retain Disco with Petty forward.

    Hibberd in, Gus to the midfield rotation and JJ to the sub (nothing against James Harmes who I think has been a good sub the last two weeks)

    J.Smith for JVR if he doesn't get off - may as well have a look at him forward at this stage.

    But that means Harmes, Spargo, Laurie and Salem don't have match play this week ...

    BBB and TMac too, but maybe they can both benefit from a(nother) week off

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    32 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

    Pretty sure Sauce Baker handballed it straight back to Tracc when we played the Dogs!

    Tracc must have called for it.

    Lost in the JVR focus this week was Goodwin's comments during his presser yesterday about team selection.

    He said, clearly, we're keeping Petty forward. The FD like what they see there. Similarly, they're not quite happy with Brown and have him working on things at VFL level. Goodwin didn't want to comment on who gets JVR's spot if the appeal fails but I suspect it won't be Brown; probably Smith, knowing how the FD think.

    Regardless of Brown's form, I don't like Petty forward and IMO I think we're barking up the wrong tree there, but the FD have a view and it's going to be persisted with.

    Hibberd sounds like he's coming straight back in, probably for Turner I'd imagine, and then it's hard to know if Spargo gets his spot back.

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