Alice Springs Match

[sue 9,102]

 

Doubts over AFL match in Alice Springs amid council dispute

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@Demonland

Andy, I just posted the above in the 2023 Fixture thread. Should I remove my post to avoid doubling up?

[Lucifers Hero 39,737]

My mfcss says they will make us play it in Darwiin:  longer flights, hotter more humid weather and longer recovery time.😬

For a full blown mfcss they will probably schedule it as a day game and give us a 6 day break afterwards. 🙄

[Demonland 72,159]

21 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

My mfcss says they will make us play it in Darwiin:  longer flights, hotter more humid weather and longer recovery time.😬

For a full blown mfcss they will probably schedule it as a day game and give us a 6 day break afterwards. 🙄

I say move it to the G and still give us the half a mill 

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

25 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

My mfcss says they will make us play it in Darwiin:  longer flights, hotter more humid weather and longer recovery time.😬

For a full blown mfcss they will probably schedule it as a day game and give us a 6 day break afterwards. 🙄

And Goody will smile and give the AFL a cuddle. 

[YearOfTheDees 3,266]

In the unlikely event this game is moved back to the MCG, would the replacement home game against The Hawks still stand. Only ask because the replacement game is only a few weeks away.

[Diamond_Jim 12,568]

40 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

My mfcss says they will make us play it in Darwiin:  longer flights, hotter more humid weather and longer recovery time.😬

For a full blown mfcss they will probably schedule it as a day game and give us a 6 day break afterwards. 🙄

think as Eddie would..

this is a football wide issue on which the national code must take a stand. It is not appropriate that the NT be compensated by a game in Darwin nor is it equitable that the financial burden should fall on the competing clubs. A compensatory payment should be made by the AFL equal to what the competing clubs would have received

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,817]

Good.

Move it back to the MCG where we need as much opportunity to prefect our form and game plan prior to finals.

We’ve gone from 3 interstate trips in the early 90’s to 8 this year.

Our schedule has become way more taxing since we’ve sold home games and more interstate sides have come in, whilst less games to attend for the heart and soul of the membership.

Edited April 21, 2023 by Bring-Back-Powell

[Cranky Franky 2,052]

Apparently the Council stopped some of the games being played in town due to a range of problems including violence.

Instead of threatening to move the game the AFL should talk to the Council & the NT government & local community groups & look at some solutions to the main issue.

[dl4e 5,851]

Play it in Wonthaggi.

[layzie 33,793]

Glad I haven't bought flights yet. What a let down 

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,817]

6 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

My mfcss says they will make us play it in Darwiin:  longer flights, hotter more humid weather and longer recovery time.😬

For a full blown mfcss they will probably schedule it as a day game and give us a 6 day break afterwards. 🙄

If the MFC are even half serious about finishing top 4 and ultimately winning a flag this year, we as members should  expect the club to decline the offer and associated money attached to a Darwin home game.

We play a hard running and disciplined St Kilda at Marvel the following week, and playing in Darwin would be woeful preparation ahead of the game.

With that being said, I’m sure this issue will get resolved and the Alice game goes ahead.

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,817]

21 minutes ago, layzie said:

Glad I haven't bought flights yet. What a let down 

I’m sure the game goes ahead.

Just a bit of hot air from the media.

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5 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

We’ve gone from 3 interstate trips in the early 90’s to 8 this year.

Our schedule has become way more taxing since we’ve sold home games and more interstate sides have come in, whilst less games to attend for the heart and soul of the membership.

Of course we have, the number of interstate sides has doubled since then.

The heart and soul of the membership can only attend games in Melbourne? 🤔  Interesting viewpoint.

[whatwhat say what 22,743]

back at the g, thanks

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,817]

1 hour ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Of course we have, the number of interstate sides has doubled since then.

The heart and soul of the membership can only attend games in Melbourne? 🤔  Interesting viewpoint.

That was a mostly rushed post on my part to be fair. But I will say this:

1) Had we not sold a game this year and the AFL would stop their fascination with scheduling us down at Hobart every year aside from 2022, we’d have 6 games, which is the same as Collingwood, our direct competitor for this year’s flag. 8 interstate trips is too many IMO and the club needs to seriously look at this, if last weeks flat performance against Essendon is a portent of things to come.

So I agree with you that the interstate teams have doubled since 1991 and we should be playing more interstate games, but why are we playing 8 interstate games as opposed to 6 like Collingwood?

2) where in my post did i say the heart and soul can ONLY attend games in Melbourne? I posted that there are less games for Victorian based MFC members to attend games in VIC. Whether they have the time and finances to go to 2-4 interstate games a year is their prerogative.

 

 

Edited April 21, 2023 by Bring-Back-Powell

[Phil C 728]

Yes because the AFL know anything about the social issues facing Alice. Run a football competition and stay in your lane AFL. 

[Lucifers Hero 39,737]

7 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

That was a mostly rushed post on my part to be fair. But I will say this:

1) Had we not sold a game this year and the AFL would stop their fascination with scheduling us down at Hobart every year aside from 2022, we’d have 6 games, which is the same as Collingwood, our direct competitor for this year’s flag. 8 interstate trips is too many IMO and the club needs to seriously look at this, if last weeks flat performance against Essendon is a portent of things to come.

So I agree with you that the interstate teams have doubled since 1991 and we should be playing more interstate games, but why are we playing 8 interstate games as opposed to 6 like Collingwood?

2) where in my post did i say the heart and soul can ONLY attend games in Melbourne? I posted that there are less games for Victorian based MFC members to attend games in VIC. Whether they have the time and finances to go to 2-4 interstate games a year is their prerogative.

I'm not sure the number of interstate games is the major issue. 

The question is can mfc do the preparation and recovery better.  In the past week:

• we caught the red eye back and flew out again a few days later for the Gather round
• Freo stayed in Adelaide before the Gather round
• Bulldogs went from Adelaide to Perth for last nights game

Freo and Bulldogs effectively cut out an interstate trip.  We chose to fly back and take the red eye.

A lot to learn form those experiences.

And it is our choice to invest in and play in Alice.

Edited April 21, 2023 by Lucifers Hero

[Lucifers Hero 39,737]

14 hours ago, Demonland said:

I say move it to the G and still give us the half a mill 

Of course, we all do!

But won't happen.

Edited April 21, 2023 by Lucifers Hero

[Timothy Reddan-A'Blew 5,118]

9 hours ago, dl4e said:

Play it in Wonthaggi...

... 🎶 Lookin' Out My Back Door 🎶

[layzie 33,793]

7 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

That was a mostly rushed post on my part to be fair. But I will say this:

1) Had we not sold a game this year and the AFL would stop their fascination with scheduling us down at Hobart every year aside from 2022, we’d have 6 games, which is the same as Collingwood, our direct competitor for this year’s flag. 8 interstate trips is too many IMO and the club needs to seriously look at this, if last weeks flat performance against Essendon is a portent of things to come.

So I agree with you that the interstate teams have doubled since 1991 and we should be playing more interstate games, but why are we playing 8 interstate games as opposed to 6 like Collingwood?

2) where in my post did i say the heart and soul can ONLY attend games in Melbourne? I posted that there are less games for Victorian based MFC members to attend games in VIC. Whether they have the time and finances to go to 2-4 interstate games a year is their prerogative.

 

 

8 interstate games is a bit of a shock and definitely too many. The club may have just let this happen in the past but we're at the point where we should be pushing back on this.

[Demon_spurs 1,846]

Flight booked, Accommodation booked, Entertainment package with MFC booked, all because a) I want to see the game in Alice and b) Because the AFL don't release the game time before round 10 and I missed out last year because all the Accommodation was booked and the flights were 5 times the price. If this game gets cancelled I will expect a full refund from......Somebody

[Lucifers Hero 39,737]

58 minutes ago, layzie said:

8 interstate games is a bit of a shock and definitely too many. The club may have just let this happen in the past but we're at the point where we should be pushing back on this.

Easier said than done. 

• Our contract with MCC is for 9 Home MCG games.  I believe Collingwood and Richmond have a higher number of Home games at the G.
• We get a 10th at the G to offset the loss of Alice for members.
• We get a couple of 'extras' at the G by playing 'Away' games vs other MCG tennants:  2 'extra' in 2023
• If we bring Alice back home we lose the offset game.
• To play more games in Victoria would mean playing more at Marvel. 
• By my reckoning the sum of these is why we play at the Cattery each year.
• To play those interstate games at the G means mediocre crowds at best.
• We aren't going to get more than one maybe two repeat games at the G against the big clubs.

Very tricky for the club to balance all these.

Anytime, anyone, anywhere!

[old55 23,548]

40 minutes ago, Demon_spurs said:

Flight booked, Accommodation booked, Entertainment package with MFC booked, all because a) I want to see the game in Alice and b) Because the AFL don't release the game time before round 10 and I missed out last year because all the Accommodation was booked and the flights were 5 times the price. If this game gets cancelled I will expect a full refund from......Somebody

Me too ...

[layzie 33,793]

1 minute ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Easier said than done. 

• Our contract with MCC is for 9 Home MCG games.  I believe Collingwood and Richmond have a higher number of Home games at the G.
• We get a 10th at the G to offset the loss of Alice for members.
• We get a couple of 'extras' at the G by playing 'Away' games vs other MCG tennants:  2 'extra' in 2023
• If we bring Alice back home we lose the offset game.
• To play more games in Victoria would mean playing more at Marvel. 
• By my reckoning the sum of these is why we play at the Cattery each year.
• To play those interstate games at the G means mediocre crowds at best.
• We aren't going to get more than one maybe two repeat games at the G against the big clubs.

Very tricky for the club to balance all these.

Anytime, anyone, anywhere!

Just wish it was better. Why do Collingwood and Richmond have more games in their contract? Is it just member numbers?