Not a lot of optimism which isn't surprising after last week's game.  Overall their focus was on underdone players, lack of speed, poor attitude and little aggression.  Lamented the absence of their tough guys:  Robinson (retired), Zorko (injured), Matheson (not selected).

From Big Footy

• Dees bring this pressure it’ll be round rd 23 2022 in rd 2 2023.
• Team balance is wrong at the moment t. We had a speed problem, now we’ve overcompensated and have a grit problem.
• Friday night against another fast moving side will be enlightening, the Demons will be fired up after us beating them last meeting.
• We lack fierceness and need to do something to shock these gentlemen players into desperation effort levels.
• i just want the players to care and reverse that putrid attitude and effort from yesterday.
• Maybe I'm getting too pessimistic but if we plan on losing the ruck contest, which is going to happen anyway , how do we expect our guys to shark it with Oliver, Petracca , Brayshaw, Viney ,Harmes etc getting service.
• Demons mids hit the ball hard. Based on what Horne-Francis did to us, Petracca will be unstoppable.
• IF Zorko was playing yesterday he would not have changed the result, but I reckon he would have become more aggressive in that 3rd Q and the team might have responded.
• Another concern I have had the last few months is the lack of defensive players in the forward line.
• Whether we win or not against Melbourne is not as consequential as to whether we turn up with intent and keep it going for the 4 quarters whatever the state of the game.  If we just fold and poonce around again I'll be genuinely worried.
• There is something fundamentally wrong with our team all down hill skiers. Of our last 5 games we have been belted 3 times that’s not a team that should be contesting for a flag.
• I watched the Dogs v Dee's last night, and even though the Dogs lost by 50, still looked light-years better than we did this weekend.
• The big worry for me is how hobbled Gawn and Petracca were and won't be this time...
• Payne and Andrews don’t get close enough to their opponents to tackle them. These are two defenders who seem to have a major deficiency in defensive skills.
• Yep the old “are we pretenders?” conundrum starts again for another year. Melbourne look deadly dangerous already and last couple of years have had the measure of our midfield.
• Bailey is not an inside mid and neither is Berry. If Berry played for the Dees or the cats he wouldn’t get a game.
• Fritchs is about to rip Rayner a new one…
• …Fritsch will run Rayner into the ground in the first quarter, if Rayner tries to run with him.
• Even in our best games there are quarters we sleep in, let alone whole games we just don't wake up.

My favourite – for its reality and light hearted humour

• Right, you go whack Petracca in the tibia with mallet, and I'll ride a mini scooter in Max Gawns' back. That oughta help Melbourne replicate their team from that semi final win.

 

Coleman was excellent against us in the final so his unavailabilty this week will help.  Dees by 4 goals!

Good to see you're back in business Luci.

39 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

• Fritchs is about to rip Rayner a new one…
• …Fritsch will run Rayner into the ground in the first quarter, if Rayner tries to run with him.

Is Rayner a defender now?

1 minute ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Is Rayner a defender now?

Yes, in a similar role to Salem. 

I reckon he is a better mid/fwd; a bit wasted in the back line as they could do with his aggression around the ball. 

21 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Yes, in a similar role to Salem. 

I reckon he is a better mid/fwd; a bit wasted in the back line as they could do with his aggression around the ball. 

The problem with Raynor fwd is that it’s too attacking to have Cameron, McCarthy, and Raynor there. We have ANB or Spargo that get up to the defensive side of the ground and then run hard forward.

Neither of the Lions three do that so they are probably looking for balance and only Raynor is a chance to be a good HBF.

34 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Yes, in a similar role to Salem. 

I reckon he is a better mid/fwd; a bit wasted in the back line as they could do with his aggression around the ball. 

And his speed too! Incredibly one paced in the middle right now.

Geeze they really aren't onboard after just 1 round are they? I get they got flogged but seriously it's round 1. What will they do when they are 0-2 after Friday night?

Edited March 21, 20232 yr by AzzKikA

38 minutes ago, AzzKikA said:

Geeze they really aren't onboard after just 1 round are they? I get they got flogged but seriously it's round 1. What will they do when they are 0-2 after Friday night?

Start looking at the history books to see the odds of making the 8 after a 0-2 start...😀

Edited March 21, 20232 yr by Lucifers Hero

20 minutes ago, AzzKikA said:

Geeze they really aren't onboard after just 1 round are they? I get they got flogged but seriously it's round 1. What will they do when they are 0-2 after Friday night?

If you can't be confident to bounce back at home with a side like that then that's kind of sad. Had we lost Rd 1 we'd be chomping at the bit for this game and a chance to put things right. 

2 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

  Lamented the absence of their tough guys:  Robinson (retired), Zorko (injured), Matheson (not selected).

 

It would be a dream come true to have those guys in their team

Absolute hapless water buffalos 

 

Just now, Sydee said:

It would be a dream come true to have those guys in their team

Absolute hapless water buffalos

Their problem is those guys are the only ones (except maybe Raynor) who gets a bit physical and ruffles feathers.  We have Viney, Harmes, May and when playing Salem, Kozzie and maybe others.

As we know a bit of aggro can lift teammates and influence a game.

I think their fans are saying the team is a bit soft without them!!

3 minutes ago, Sydee said:

It would be a dream come true to have those guys in their team

Absolute hapless water buffalos 

 

If they are water buffalo's who is the Grand Poohba ?🤣

1 minute ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Their problem is those guys are the only ones (except maybe Raynor) who gets a bit physical and ruffles feathers.  We have Viney, Harmes, May and when playing Salem, Kozzie and maybe others.

As we know a bit of aggro can lift teammates and influence a game.

I think their fans are saying the team is a bit soft without them!!

Maybe but the sad fact is that apart from Zorko who has very limited football ability IMO the other two are completely devoid of skill - how Matheson remains on their list is a complete mystery to me 

1 minute ago, picket fence said:

If they are water buffalo's who is the Grand Poohba ?🤣

3 minutes ago, Sydee said:

Maybe but the sad fact is that apart from Zorko who has very limited football ability IMO the other two are completely devoid of skill - how Matheson remains on their list is a complete mystery to me 

Just repeating what their fans say - not my view.

2 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Just repeating what their fans say - not my view.

Yep I know 

2 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Is Rayner a defender now?

They’ve shifted him back there over summer in an effort to get something out of him. He’s a number 1 pick who at this stage is a seriously average footballer. He was basically drafted with the promise of becoming a Dusty type mid forward beast and it just hasn’t happened. He’s 24 years old this year and yet only averages 12 disposals and less than a goal a game. Jack Watts had basically been crucified by the point in his career for similar output!

We should beat the Lions this week. We owe them for September.

21 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

 

We should beat the Lions this week. We owe them for September.

This. The only reason they beat us is because we were physically broken. Even their fans know it.

We should destroy them, and Viney needs to LEGALLY send Zorko that small annoying piece of human excrement into next week.

Edited March 21, 20232 yr by Jaded No More

Will be interesting to see how long before the blowtorch gets turned on Fagan, if this continues.

Just shows the margin between winning and losing is not that big in modern footy. If you’re 10% off, you’ll get smashed 

Edited March 21, 20232 yr by BW511

4 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Is Rayner a defender now?

On the team sheets, yes, but apparently not according to the comments Brisbane supporters are making!

2 hours ago, BW511 said:

Will be interesting to see how long before the blowtorch gets turned on Fagan, if this continues.

Just shows the margin between winning and losing is not that big in modern footy. If you’re 10% off, you’ll get smashed 

The question i'd have if i was lions fan is why in the heck are they still running a 2010 style defensive system. 

I might also ask why they didn't address their lack of leg speed - which we ruthlessly exploit when up and about (and are even better placed to exploit this season because Kozzie is playing more mid time, so is around the ball more and we have added mcvee and Chadler who are both quick and Hunter, whilst not super quick over the first 5 metres seems to have good cruising speed. Added to that bowser looks even quicker than he was, and the team all look super fit) 

Edited March 22, 20232 yr by binman

2 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

This. The only reason they beat us is because we were physically broken. Even their fans know it.

We should destroy them, and Viney needs to LEGALLY send Zorko that small annoying piece of human excrement into next week.

Likewise with Jarrod Berry. Will never forget Zorko and Berry’s disgusting treatment of our Harry P. 

5 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

 If we just fold and poonce around again I'll be genuinely worried.

Using the word “poonce” has ME genuinely worried. 

Danhiher has been a bit disappointing for them.  I think they were expecting more.

14 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Jarrod Berry

I hope they send him to Clarry again....

He won't get the same result this time. Clarry is a very competitive footballer and would be storing the last meeting at the back of his mind. Plus he's fit this time.