I have no info on the package required other than Carlton are ok for McKay to talk. 

Could we give him an additional year for the same total commit? EG TCV doesn’t change.

The big selling point from us is that McKay would be our undisputed #1 target. 

Re Lobb (FWIW):

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Had we kicked straight we could have been premiers. We played both finals without Petty and one without JVR. 
Yes we had some other issues but none of them need McKays presence to fix. Carlton would be laughing at us for years if this was to eventuate.

If Carlton are prepared to release McKay from his long and lucrative contract, then alarm bells should be ringing.

Like Grundy, we would be getting a player who is coming off his worst season. But unlike Grundy, we would have to sell the farm to get him, because I don't see the Blues getting rid of McKay as a salary dump.

A big no for mine.

Lobb, McKay….

Surely we’re not that stupid. 

4 hours ago, Megatron said:

You’re right. It’s not terrible, but horrendous. 

Only if there's any truth to it Mega

McKay is risky cause we'd need to sell the farm as contracted. But even with his flaws he'd make us better, not sure how people think otherwise.

Lobb, again, even with his flaws, would also make us better, and we'd probably get him for a nothing pick.

Please no to McKay

I very much doubt that the McKay talk is real. I would rather we trade up as far as we can and get best available. It worked in 2019.

Rip into this draft including trading a future 1st if necessary. 

Next year we will see further cap freed up via all or 2 of Brown, TMc and Tomlinson - so we can go for a Free Agent. 

Assuming you could get him why wouldnt you play McKay in the ground and have JVR and Petty as the deep forward.

He’d provide a good target on the wing and is an ok field kick. Can he improve F50 connection? Who knows.

I can’t see it being anything but picks 5 and 13 though, which I wouldn’t do. If it was 15 (or 10 or 11) and F1st then maybe  

 

11 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Lobb, McKay….

Surely we’re not that stupid. 

McKay, JVR and Lobb forward, Petty back.

It's aggressive, but I like it if true.

Every KPF is linked to us….. sounds like the media is seeing a hole and linking us to anyone and everyone. 
 

Every Bulldog KPF is seen as bait as they have a surplus. 
 

Reid and WC pick 1 is seen as available due to not being a native 
 

I could make this [censored] up. FFS
 

Ridiculous 

33 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

He's not worth 3 first round picks no Fuggin way, Id be giving them the following of the two, pick 13, future 1st rounder and or what ever we get back for Grundy hopefully pick 11.

Pick 5 should not be included in this deal unless we are getting something back in return, would rather draft a young gun mid with this.

That's a ripping deal for Carlscum and we are taking on his salary for 6 years.

Having said all this i would prefer Naughton over Mckay any day of the week.

He is worth pick 5 plus a future 1st 

11 minutes ago, adonski said:

McKay is risky cause we'd need to sell the farm as contracted. But even with his flaws he'd make us better, not sure how people think otherwise.

Lobb, again, even with his flaws, would also make us better, and we'd probably get him for a nothing pick.

Lobb has had 2 good seasons in 10. It’s a no! 

Just now, Demons11 said:

Lobb has had 2 good seasons in 10. It’s a no! 

So he's due! 

1 minute ago, Demons11 said:

Lobb has had 2 good seasons in 10. It’s a no! 

You just need Lobb to provide reasonable back up ruck work and then an ability better than Gawn or Grundy to play forward and it's a win. He could absolutely nail both roles.

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7 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Assuming you could get him why wouldnt you play McKay in the ground and have JVR and Petty as the deep forward.

He’d provide a good target on the wing and is an ok field kick. Can he improve F50 connection? Who knows.

I can’t see it being anything but picks 5 and 13 though, which I wouldn’t do. If it was 15 (or 10 or 11) and F1st then maybe  

 

I think if he was in the ground he'd struggle aerially. Not sure on this 

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5 minutes ago, Binmans PA said:

McKay, JVR and Lobb forward, Petty back.

It's aggressive, but I like it if true.

Not sure it would be Lobb plus McKay, but who knows. 

In many respects, Lobb is the perfect ruck/forward to add to our list this stage. He's not the guy that's going to take over from Gawn, that'll be a fella by the name of Sean Darcy in 2025 or so ( 😉 ), but he is perfect for the time being.

McKay, Lobb, Shache, BBB and TMac. Come on Melbourne. Sorry, no offence, but that's 5 NQR's right there. Lets fast track our slide into oblivion

1 hour ago, ChaserJ said:

Old mate Trade Whisperer has just dropped this one on Twitter as well.

Haha the Notorious "make [censored] up guy"

We've invested 1st round picks in the past 2 drafts on key forwards (JVR and Jefferson). If we pursue McKay, that would amount to 4 1st round picks on key forwards in 3 drafts. That's gross mismanagement IMO.

19 minutes ago, Binmans PA said:

McKay, JVR and Lobb forward, Petty back.

It's aggressive, but I like it if true.

If I had to swallow it, I’d go with what @Gawndy the Great suggested which was effectively using him as a link player, keeping Petty and JVR deep.

But then how much do you pay for a link player and with Fritsch also fwd I think that throws out our balance. 
 

We also need pace and classy ball users.

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14 minutes ago, Binmans PA said:

You just need Lobb to provide reasonable back up ruck work and then an ability better than Gawn or Grundy to play forward and it's a win. He could absolutely nail both roles.

Was that not his role at the Dogs?

2 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

If I had to swallow it, I’d go with what @Gawndy the Great suggested which was effectively using him as a kink player, keeping Petty and JVR deep.

But then how much do you pay for a link player and with Fritsch also fwd I think that throws out our balance. 
 

We also need pace and classy ball users.

I honestly think Petty needs to go back to defence.

We might have 1 maybe 2 more seasons of May, then I think Petty takes over.

But this all depends on if we can land a key forward.