On 28/09/2022 at 00:00, Lucifers Hero said:

That was for FA's where a club can get a better deal trading them out a year early than getting a lesser AFL compensation pick when an FA.

But a club does have more bargaining power with regards to a trade with a full year on a contract as opposed to a contract that is finished

The Luke Jackson example for instance ... many here are saying that we might have to accept unders as we don't necessarily hold a strong hand

That may or may not be true

However, I'm reckoning that Kossie will re-sign an extended contract. If that doesn't happen, the speculation will heighten

So there's a few different outcomes (more than 1 club might want him) and none of those possibilities can be ruled out

Have Port said they are not interested?  Why the hell not?  The bloke can play and who wouldn't want him?

Many here have stated that we can't afford to lose Kossie ... so it could be assumed that he is valued highly

Do you reckon we've offered Kossie an extention?  If not, why not?  I understand that we've been busy securing other players but we can do more than 1 deal at the same time

 

  On 28/09/2022 at 00:15, Macca said:

But a club does have more bargaining power with regards to a trade with a full year on a contract as opposed to a contract that is finished

The Luke Jackson example for instance ... many here are saying that we might have to accept unders as we don't necessarily hold a strong hand

That may or may not be true

However, I'm reckoning that Kossie will re-sign an extended contract. If that doesn't happen, the speculation will heighten

So there's a few different outcomes (more than 1 club might want him) and none of those possibilities can be ruled out

Have Port said they are not interested?  Why the hell not?  The bloke can play and who wouldn't want him?

Many here have stated that we can't afford to lose Kossie ... so it could be assumed that he is valued highly

Do you reckon we've offered Kossie an extention?  If not, why not?  I understand that we've been busy securing other players but we can do more than 1 deal at the same time

Absolutely agree that a club has more bargaining power for a contracted player.  I was clarifying the Roos reference.

  On 15/09/2022 at 11:51, A F said:

Particularly when they're only his second and third years. Kozzy is a star.

He is, but he can definitely be better. I think he needs a bit more forward craft coaching and if we were able to snare Stevie J, would become the prominent SF of the comp. Skillfully better than Stengle and Papley IMV, but lacks a bit of experience based smarts. 

  On 28/09/2022 at 00:22, Lucifers Hero said:

Absolutely agree that a club has more bargaining power for a contracted player.  I was clarifying the Roos reference.

As much as I'm somewhat confident that Kossie will re-sign, I'm a bit concerned that we haven't secured him past the 2023 season

So it's the optimist vs the pessimist in me that arrives as the realist

Boring hey?

  On 28/09/2022 at 00:26, Macca said:

As much as I'm somewhat confident that Kossie will re-sign, I'm a bit concerned that we haven't secured him past the 2023 season

So it's the optimist vs the pessimist in me that arrives as the realist

Boring hey?

The Tradio Radio guys seem to making stuff up as they go along.

If I had to guess, Kozzie will sign for two years or four years the latter being his FA year which is when most players sign up to.

  On 28/09/2022 at 00:29, Lucifers Hero said:

The Tradio Radio guys seem to making stuff up as they go along.

If I had to guess, Kozzie will sign for two years or four years the latter being his FA year which is when most players sign up to.

I don't take any notice of trade radio and I wouldn't even know where to find it

However, my opinion on a talented uncontracted player or a talented player nearing the end of a contract remains constant. 

Secure the player or you may lose the player

Even Gysberts, Martin & Morton were traded whilst contracted and none of those 3 are in the same conversation as Kossie.  Most here were happy to see all 3 players leave

Mind you, pick 88 hardly qualifies as a 'trade'!

Every year at least one very good player will be out of contract.  AFAIK Luke Jackson is the first one, that we wanted to keep, to leave.  You'll have an unhappy time if you stress over every case.

  On 28/09/2022 at 00:51, old55 said:

Every year at least one very good player will be out of contract.  AFAIK Luke Jackson is the first one, that we wanted to keep, to leave.  You'll have an unhappy time if you stress over every case.

There's zero stress involved as far as I'm concerned.  If Kossie wants to go then I'm not sure I'd want to keep him anyway

So you do the best deal possible in that scenario.  Don't really have favourites unless that player is pure A grade.  The rest are tradeable

Right now I'd rate Kossie as a notch lower to the best.  He has the potential to be an A grader but he might not get to A grade status.  That's all up to Kossie

 

  On 30/09/2022 at 02:26, Lord Nev said:

 

Your Lordship - what does it say?  Can’t open the link.  

First and foremost, this is coming from Triple M (their news is self generated), secondly it is from an Adelaide footy radio station, couldn’t find a more biased incorrect news station if you tried.

That ‘noise’ was KK just trying to make up a story out of nothing. Only those of the lowest common denominator seemingly believe it’s happening.

Talk about Chinese whispers.

Edited September 30, 20222 yr by Demon Disciple

  On 30/09/2022 at 02:34, monoccular said:

Your Lordship - what does it say?  Can’t open the link.  

"The sleeping one that there’s enough noise around is Kozzie Pickett," Rocky said.

"I still think… he’s a possibility to be in Port Adelaide colours next year."

  On 28/09/2022 at 01:00, Macca said:

There's zero stress involved as far as I'm concerned.  If Kossie wants to go then I'm not sure I'd want to keep him anyway

So you do the best deal possible in that scenario.  Don't really have favourites unless that player is pure A grade.  The rest are tradeable

Right now I'd rate Kossie as a notch lower to the best.  He has the potential to be an A grader but he might not get to A grade status.  That's all up to Kossie

Ridiculous attitude you will have this team dismembered  by 2025 with that attitude if only keeping  A graders or one if our game breakers on our already suspect forward line. 
Or did you fit get that you would exchange Connor Rozee in the deal? 

  On 30/09/2022 at 02:36, Lord Nev said:

"The sleeping one that there’s enough noise around is Kozzie Pickett," Rocky said.

"I still think… he’s a possibility to be in Port Adelaide colours next year."

Noise thrown around from one media stooge to another!

  On 30/09/2022 at 02:40, Lucifers Hero said:

Noise thrown around from one media stooge to another!

Get the impression this is Rockliff trying to build his media presence in a similar way to how Kane Cornes did early on in his career.

  On 30/09/2022 at 02:41, dazzledavey36 said:

Wow

Bit over the top there with the personal insults.

Real dazzledavey in a game day thread vibes....

One topic you do not want to see running hot is this one when you log on, you get a little panicky until you enter.

  On 30/09/2022 at 02:42, Lord Nev said:

Real dazzledavey in a game day thread vibes....

Nah bro I've never called a player a dead beat of a human that needs a brain transplant.

But good try.

I'm a big fan of your work @Lord Travis. Just seems completely out of character there.

  On 30/09/2022 at 02:52, dazzledavey36 said:

Nah bro I've never called a player a dead beat of a human that needs a brain transplant.

But good try.

  

  On 09/06/2021 at 01:54, dazzledavey36 said:

The guy has a brain the size of a pea.

  

  On 27/07/2015 at 06:48, dazzledavey36 said:

Is that to much for your pea little brain to work that out?

FMD!

  

  On 19/07/2022 at 05:23, dazzledavey36 said:

He's a genuine pig of a human. Lets leave it to the dwarf lighters (St Kilda) for this one.

  

  On 15/09/2021 at 05:40, dazzledavey36 said:

The above post doesn't change the fact you really are a piece of [censored] stain of a human being and a genuine oxygen thief @WERRIDEE

  

  On 07/02/2021 at 06:55, dazzledavey36 said:

Simon buckley is an absolute gronk of a human.

  

  On 22/03/2020 at 07:20, dazzledavey36 said:

He is a germ of a human being, nothing but a stain.

  

  On 14/03/2020 at 23:05, dazzledavey36 said:

Don't go crying like a little [censored] because you are being called out for the stain human that you are.

  

  On 06/06/2016 at 12:14, dazzledavey36 said:

Piece of [censored] of a human being.

  

  On 13/10/2014 at 07:03, dazzledavey36 said:

He is an absolute disgrace of a human being and a oxygen thief.

Ok.

  On 30/09/2022 at 03:03, dazzledavey36 said:

Ha well played.

Some shockers there.

Only one I'm proud of is the [censored] one because he is a vile human. Bashed his girlfriend few years.

I'm sorry Cale Morton.. I love you ❤️

Fair play mate. You're a very different beast on game day I've discovered!

  On 30/09/2022 at 02:57, dazzledavey36 said:

I'm a big fan of your work @Lord Travis. Just seems completely out of character there.

One of our family dogs died yesterday so I’m not in a good mood. Seeing this [censored] feed fuel to a fire that shouldn’t exist obviously annoyed me!

Kozzie is going nowhere.

  On 30/09/2022 at 03:44, Lord Travis said:

One of our family dogs died yesterday so I’m not in a good mood. Seeing this [censored] feed fuel to a fire that shouldn’t exist obviously annoyed me!

Kozzie is going nowhere.

Sorry to hear mate.. know the feeling well. It's like losing a family member and the grief can be quite raw.

❤️

Top 5 draft pick at a minimum when you consider he was pick 12, and then add in back to back 40 goals seasons from a 21 year old.

 

  On 30/09/2022 at 03:44, Lord Travis said:

One of our family dogs died yesterday so I’m not in a good mood. Seeing this [censored] feed fuel to a fire that shouldn’t exist obviously annoyed me!

Kozzie is going nowhere.

Commiserations LT, I know exactly how you are feeling. Our beautiful 13 year old border collie had to be put to sleep on Wednesday night.