PODCAST: Rd 23 vs Brisbane

[Demonland 74,465]

7 minutes ago, binman said:

Me too

I have a feeling we're going to disagree about this.

[ElDiablo14 5,061]

6 minutes ago, binman said:

Me too

For me last Friday Night felt like watching the Dees from 2021 Finals, It really boosted my confidence in that we can go back to back!

[Demonland 74,465]

4 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Please guys don't forget to dive deeper into the "Premiership Metrics".

I also wanted to ask what do you make of Salem's place in our list? Is he really a lock at the moment? I felt our half back line more dynamic without him last week.

@binman you have some homework to do (if you have time that is).

[Dees2014 2,377]

20 minutes ago, Deeoldfart said:

You stole my thunder rpfc.  
MFCSS tells me that the ease with which we were able to win said  more about Brisbane’s ineptitude than our brilliance, but obviously, I hope I’m wrong.  However, wherever the ‘balance’ lies, a win like that must be a huge fillip for our confidence going into finals.

I seem to remember similar questions being asked after our first final last year, and yet we followed it up by smashing initially Geelong in the Prelim, and then overwhelming the Dogs in the Grannie, each time being more and more dominant. 

l suspect this has mostly to do with how the team is managed fitness-wise, even though it is a worry for us supporters as we go through this load sharing in the second half of the year which seems to result in inexplicable losses. 

l now have confidence that our team management knows what they are doing, particularly after the win last weekend. I’m sure BinMan will expand on this further in this evening’s podcast. His insights have been very re-assuring for the “doubting-thomases” like myself. 
 

 

 

 

 

[Dr. Gonzo 24,468]

50 minutes ago, layzie said:

Does anyone know what our scores from turnover was in the game and how to get that stat?

Pretty sure they showed this stat at some point during the game (3rd quarter?) At that stage we had scored 9.1.55 from turnover (from memory) and Brisbane were maybe 3 goals?

[Guest]

Hey Andy 

If you have time tonight can you please stress the importance of attendance. I know we have a “Fill the ‘G” thread, and this isn’t directed at anyone who can’t go for a valid reason, but it’s now more than ever that we need people to show up.

It’s a great way to thank the boys for working so hard to secure a home final for us. ❤️💙

[Demonland 74,465]

7 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Hey Andy 

If you have time tonight can you please stress the importance of attendance. I know we have a “Fill the ‘G” thread, and this isn’t directed at anyone who can’t go for a valid reason, but it’s now more than ever that we need people to show up.

It’s a great way to thank the boys for working so hard to secure a home final for us. ❤️💙

I guarantee you that every one who takes the time to listen to an hour and a half Dees podcast will be going to the game.

I guess we could try to persuade them to bring family members along.

[Altona-demon 321]

Can I please ask a question of tonight's pod crew. 

" Have we shown our hand too early? It was clear from the game that the Dees were playing a different style of attack going into forward 50 and also exiting defensive 50 (shock horror May kicked to different points of the ground often to Langdon's wing). On numerous occasions entering f50 we took the dangerous inboard kick into leading lanes (vis-a-vis our usual mode of operation kicking into the pocket for contest). Does this help or hinder us? Or was it a good chance to give it a hit out before we deploy the similar style against Sydney? "

Edited August 22, 2022 by Altona-demon

[Dees2014 2,377]

11 hours ago, Wodjathefirst said:

I think our game plan for our forward structure would be more structurally stable with a 2nd tall. If TMac is taken off the injury list in a week or two is he a realistic consideration for the finals campaign? 
 My heart says yes, my head says no (lack of match practice/ fitness).  I am not even sure if there is a pathway or even time to consider progressing him through the VFL. It may also be dependent on who we are playing. And, if he is selected, who does he replace? What are your thoughts? 

I think we definitely need another tall forward. If TMac doesn’t come up l think we should seriously consider van Rooyen. He can also ruck. He has shown outstanding form at Casey lately and will be an important player for us in the future, and we have shown we are prepared to throw rookies into the deep end in finals very successfully (aka Bowey last year). 
 

Worth considering l think….what about you guys?

[binman 44,856]

33 minutes ago, Demonland said:

@binman you have some homework to do (if you have time that is).

On it

[Stu 1,075]

I’m sure you’ll cover this in the review of the game, but the kick to players leading towards our goal was used very successfully. This allowed the forwards to stay inside 50 and then lead up to the player with the ball sitting 70-80 metres out. It’s not commonly used by any teams and seems to be a point of difference we might employ in this finals series. 

[Guest]

22 minutes ago, Demonland said:

I guarantee you that every one who takes the time to listen to an hour and a half Dees podcast will be going to the game.

I guess we could try to persuade them to bring family members along.

Yeah, I suppose it’d be preaching to the converted. But I’m sure there’s a number of ppl who aren’t going because it clashes with another event. I’m by no means blowing my own trumpet and I know everyone’s different in terms of commitment, but you wouldn’t believe what I’ve *bailed on in order to attend a match, on three occasions this year. Moreover, one such occasion was at that freezing, fetid cesspool, Kardinia Park!!!
*Mum’s lamb roast over a date with Tom Cruise is nothing in comparison. 😁

Edited August 22, 2022 by WalkingCivilWar

[Demonland 74,465]

9 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Yeah, I suppose it’d be preaching to the converted. But I’m sure there’s a number of ppl who aren’t going because it clashes with another event. I’m by no means blowing my own trumpet and I know everyone’s different in terms of commitment, but you wouldn’t believe what I’ve bailed on in order to attend a match, on three occasions this year. Moreover, one such occasion was at that freezing, fetid cesspool, Kardinia Park!!!
 

The only event a fan should be attending instead of a final is their funeral. And even then ....

[Deeoldfart 8,205]

This is the first time I can recall a Pod thread running ‘hot’ to the point of boiling.  We are obviously on the threshold of another finals campaign, but it also speaks volumes about the work of @demonlad, @george_on_the_outerand @binman.   Really looking forward to tonight’s episode.

[Guest]

14 minutes ago, Demonland said:

The only event a fan should be attending instead of a final is their funeral. And even then ....

 

… even then would it kill the loved ones to swing past the ‘G and park the coffin ground level, back of the stands where all the drinkers are? A wake and a final in one. Two birds one stone. 😁

[Demonland 74,465]

Just now, WalkingCivilWar said:

… even then would it kill the loved ones to swing past the ‘G and park the coffin ground level, back of the stands where all the drinkers are? A wake and a final in one. Two birds one stone. 😁

I plan to have my ashes scattered either on the exact spot that Steven May predictably kicks out to or the forward pocket where we always go Inside 50 to.

[rpfc 29,030]

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

I have something to say about this but will save it for the podcast.

 

1 hour ago, binman said:

Me too

My two cents; it takes a pretty good team to be so surgical. They may have let us in - but we we’re ruthless. Teams are going to let us in this month…

[Deeminion 412]

Petracca seems to be playing a lot of time forward in the past few weeks. Are we saving him to be unleashed in September? Is it to give Gus more midfield minutes? Does anybody have the time forward stats for Trac in the past few weeks? I'm not complaining as he managed to hit the scoreboard twice.

[Dee Zephyr 19,326]

A Couple of minutes on Kozzie if you could gents. 15 goals in the first 11 rounds, 23 in the last 11 rounds with 18 of those 23 coming in the last 6 rounds which arguably was the hardest part of our fixture. Not many of us have seen finals at the G since 2018. If he carries this form into September us Melbourne supporters will be in for some treat, he's been sublime.

[layzie 34,528]

3 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Pretty sure they showed this stat at some point during the game (3rd quarter?) At that stage we had scored 9.1.55 from turnover (from memory) and Brisbane were maybe 3 goals?

Wonder if it was our best for the year?

[Webber 10,650]

5 hours ago, deanox said:

James Jordan only played 10 minutes but Telstra Tracker said he was our hardest working in attack for the match (obviously because he was fresh and could run hard).

This use of the sub isn't something we've really seen from Goody this year. Will we see more use of the "super sub" in September?

(Might be a question for next podcast)

IIRC, JJ’s “workrate in attack” is no. 1 in the AFL across the season. I’m very bullish on JJ, and think he’s easily best 22…..but based on Friday’s performance I can’t decide for who. 

[Dr. Mubutu 867]

3 hours ago, Demonland said:

I guarantee you that every one who takes the time to listen to an hour and a half Dees podcast will be going to the game.

I guess we could try to persuade them to bring family members along.

I can guarantee to you that that isn't the case.

If I was in Melbourne, you couldn't keep me away. Not being there, however, it is a bit of a strain on the wallet.
I really do appreciate the podcast though, guys, and being able to listen to some articulate insights into the Dees is very much welcome!

[layzie 34,528]

Questions:

- Is it dangerous to be jumping the gun on how we potentially fit T-mac back into this team? 

- The Swans are an outstanding running side and they will likely run at our defenders and not hoof it into the 50. What are the main things we need to be aware of when defending in transition against the Swans on the open spaces of the G? Will it mainly be about the pressure we bring or are there some other things worth noting?

[Demonland 74,465]

20 minutes ago, Dr. Mubutu said:

I can guarantee to you that that isn't the case.

If I was in Melbourne, you couldn't keep me away. Not being there, however, it is a bit of a strain on the wallet.
I really do appreciate the podcast though, guys, and being able to listen to some articulate insights into the Dees is very much welcome!

I did of course mean those that are in Melbourne or who can afford to travel. No offence meant.

[Demonland 74,465]

3 minutes ago, layzie said:

Questions:

- Is it dangerous to be jumping the gun on how we potentially fit T-mac back into this team? 

- The Swans are an outstanding running side and they will likely run at our defenders and not hoof it into the 50. What are the main things we need to be aware of when defending in transition against the Swans on the open spaces of the G? Will it mainly be about the pressure we bring or are there some other things worth noting?

We might touch on the TMac bit this week but we'll keep (and please ask this again in the thread next week) the other one for our QF Preview show next week.