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Looks like GWS #21 is gone in a pick swap with the Lions.

News Corp’s Marc McGowan reported on Wednesday afternoon the Lions are set to send pick No.15 to the Giants in exchange for pick No.21 and a future second-round selection

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    24 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

    Trading 27 for 21 is the points equivalent of pick 58 and Lamb already publicly turned down pick 43 for Bedford, so reckon you're correct Luci.

    Yes but the trade for 27 shows it's not about the points. It's about the result.

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    4 minutes ago, old55 said:

    Yes but the trade for 27 shows it's not about the points. It's about the result.

    Yep, fair point, but Lamb also said they had no plans to use the two later picks so they weren't worth anything to us.

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    12 minutes ago, Sydee said:

    Harsh - maybe its more of a reflection of everyone outside of Melb knowing our small forwards were not performing to the same level they were in 2021 but our coach being extremely reluctant to make changes or take a few risks with selection or positional changes

    Harsh but the sad truth, and what value is determined by. Team won't pay based on time of development. Had he played more he may well have had more value, but our selection or lack of has hurt his value. 

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    Got the GWS - Brisbane swap around the wrong way, ignore me ...

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    21 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

    GWS likely have pick 30 coming in as part of the Hopper trade. 

    30 for Bedford + 50 seems about right 

    But it’s a bit like Freo with the Lobb trade - they are furiously denying it’ll happen, because they want to make the Jackson trade first, so they can keep whatever they get for him.

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    “Trading for points” appears to be devalued this year, as I think only Brisbane are after bulk draft points & they have most of those already now (hence why we were happy to hand over the later picks to Port).

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    On 9/29/2022 at 2:15 PM, old dee said:

    Spargo had a lot games early in his career when I don't think he deserved them. Chandler has had next to no games by comparison. Spargo had some good games in 2021 but this year has been far from that form IMO. He doesn't get the ball often enough. 

    Totally agree.Will need to improve to hold his game next year. Howe maybtakevitnovervorvsomeone else.

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    7 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

    Isn't that like giving Bedford away for next to nothing? 

    It is 6 spot slide in a very even draft.  Every chance a player we would take at 21 will be there at 27.  And if we get 21 Coll will demand it.  Let them have 27 and we get a fair deal for Bedford.

    Collingwood wanted a pick inside 25 for Grundy. With Brisbane acquiring 21 & 25 today, pick 27 will likely slide up to 25 after Brisbane match bids. 
     

    No need to do any extra work to give Collingwood a better pick, we’ve effectively met the asking price.

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    16 minutes ago, ChaserJ said:

    Collingwood wanted a pick inside 25 for Grundy. With Brisbane acquiring 21 & 25 today, pick 27 will likely slide up to 25 after Brisbane match bids. 
     

    No need to do any extra work to give Collingwood a better pick, we’ve effectively met the asking price.

    Great post mate.

    It always seems strange to me that if clubs could get a deal done, that they wouldn't just try and do it as quickly as possible, so they can move onto other priorities.

    The Grundy deal should have been done today.

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    34 minutes ago, A F said:

    Great post mate.

    It always seems strange to me that if clubs could get a deal done, that they wouldn't just try and do it as quickly as possible, so they can move onto other priorities.

    The Grundy deal should have been done today.

    Might be contracts ticked off by the AFL that is the holdup? Given the salary transfer etc it might take longer? 
    Surely this gets done by Friday?!

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    On 10/2/2022 at 12:15 PM, Tracca said:

    weak? its what he gets paid to do.

     

    If GWS have told him he will play senior football on more $$ than what dees are offering then good on him for finding that opportunity.

     

    Yep, good on him (Bedford). Still, I reckon that we are going to regret (considerably) his loss to the team; his development stagnated and is about to erupt very positively. 

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    8 hours ago, A F said:

    Great post mate.

    It always seems strange to me that if clubs could get a deal done, that they wouldn't just try and do it as quickly as possible, so they can move onto other priorities.

    The Grundy deal should have been done today.


    You have the example of Freo desperately denying that Lobb will be traded; they just want to get the Jackson deal done first so they can keep whatever they get for Lobb for themselves instead of being forced to include it for us. 

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    9 hours ago, ChaserJ said:

    Collingwood wanted a pick inside 25 for Grundy. With Brisbane acquiring 21 & 25 today, pick 27 will likely slide up to 25 after Brisbane match bids. 
     

    No need to do any extra work to give Collingwood a better pick, we’ve effectively met the asking price.

    Fair point that 27 will slide to 25. 

    But Brisbane didn't have 25 at the time I made that post in which I was saying to just give Coll 27.  So I agree no need to sweeten the Grundy deal  I could only see a sweetener for Coll optics and give them 54 which we won't use.

     

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    44 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

    Fair point that 27 will slide to 25. 

    But Brisbane didn't have 25 at the time I made that post in which I was saying to just give Coll 27.  So I agree no need to sweeten the Grundy deal  I could only see a sweetener for Coll optics and give them 54 which we won't use.

     

    Or we trade 27 and 54 to Brisbane for 25. Nets them an extra 170pts for Ashcroft, and Collingwood have their pick 25.

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    17 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

    Maybe so but let's find another way to sweeten the Grundy trade than giving Bedford away for a mere 6 spot slide.

     

    Why sweeten the CW deal? We don't have to as  they have decided to push him we are the only suitor Give the minimum in my view

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    39 minutes ago, Kent said:

    Why sweeten the CW deal? We don't have to as  they have decided to push him we are the only suitor Give the minimum in my view

    No we don't need to but only if it is necessary to make the trade happen.  We won't use #54. 

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    2 hours ago, Mach5 said:


    You have the example of Freo desperately denying that Lobb will be traded; they just want to get the Jackson deal done first so they can keep whatever they get for Lobb for themselves instead of being forced to include it for us. 

    It's terribly bad faith dealings. They really are the worst club.

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    I think this deal will take the longest. Gws holding a bounty of picks now and we have little to play with. Once Grundy deal is done (I like the 27 and 54 = 25 from Brisbane trade), then the Jackson deal is done, I think we try haggle once the picks are in our hands. No need for Toby to stress unless freo try drag things until the 11th hour. 

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    Just now, dazzledavey36 said:

    I heard on the radio that Freo currently have pick 13 and pick 88...

    I am really lost now on how they're able to satisfy us with what we're after.

    Freo have royally [censored] themselves over.

    Unless theyve heard around the traps that the Eagles arent in play with pick 2?  In that case they are then (possibly already are) going to try & royally do that to us!

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    2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    I heard on the radio that Freo currently have pick 13 and pick 88...

    I am really lost now on how they're able to satisfy us with what we're after.

    Freo have royally [censored] themselves over.

    No, that is what they started with. they now have future 2nd and 3rd round picks tied to Nth Melbourne’s ladder position as well as their own future 1st round. Talk seems to be centered around Current 13th plus F1, F2(nth) plus probably some pick swaps

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    11 hours ago, ChaserJ said:

    Collingwood wanted a pick inside 25 for Grundy. With Brisbane acquiring 21 & 25 today, pick 27 will likely slide up to 25 after Brisbane match bids. 
     

    No need to do any extra work to give Collingwood a better pick, we’ve effectively met the asking price.

    The system works!

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    13 minutes ago, FlashInThePan said:

    No, that is what they started with. they now have future 2nd and 3rd round picks tied to Nth Melbourne’s ladder position as well as their own future 1st round. Talk seems to be centered around Current 13th plus F1, F2(nth) plus probably some pick swaps

    Ah right okay.

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    4 hours ago, A F said:

    It's terribly bad faith dealings. They really are the worst club.


    We’re also seen to be doing the same thing, so that we can hand over only 27 for Grundy, but Freo is holding it all up.

    I’d like to see us then move picks to GC for next year so that we can get back in earlier for this draft.

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