Trade and Free Agency rumours

[binman 44,273]

17 minutes ago, JimmyGadson said:

Hunter would be a nice addition, compliments our midfield group nicely.

Doesn't have the speed although he's an elite runner but has great composure and use by hand and foot which is the main thing IMO. Hits great kicks that open up play and his release handballs are fantastic.

Could be a solid opposite Wing to Langdon.

Agree.

I don't care about his leg speed - he is an excellent kick, which is what we really need. And is a reliable set shot, so can play the rotating half forward mid chop out role. 

If Salem can get back to his best, Bowey comes back in and we snare Hunter, then suddenly our kicking skills looks a lot better. 

[Fat Tony 5,291]

20 minutes ago, JimmyGadson said:

Hunter would be a nice addition, compliments our midfield group nicely.

Doesn't have the speed although he's an elite runner but has great composure and use by hand and foot which is the main thing IMO. Hits great kicks that open up play and his release handballs are fantastic.

Could be a solid opposite Wing to Langdon.

Funny, I think he is quicker than you suggest and a bit of a butcher by foot.

That said, he is true winger and left footer, which helps. He is also pretty tough.

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[binman 44,273]

Just now, Fat Tony said:

Funny, I think he is quicker than you suggest and a bit of a butcher by foot.

That said, he is true winger and left footer, which helps. He is also pretty tough.

He's good kick in terms of hitting short and medium targets, which is critical because when those kicks are turned over it often gift the oppo a scoring opportunity - and of course our potential scoring chain is broken.

The shocking turnover by may on the HB against the swans in the semi is the perfect example - we went from controlling the ball (and the game for that matter) and looking to transition and create a scoring chain, to gifting them a goal (and arguablly the game).    

I agree being a left footer helps. Good left footers so often get gifted space to release the ball. 

[Stiff Arm 4,419]

18 minutes ago, Action Jackson said:

I agree with this. Have heard he is a bit of a f l o g though, that's my only concern.

Bulldogs have quite a few of them. Both Libba and Hunter are good players despite this. Managed to get rid of the worst one though: Stringer

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

14 minutes ago, Stiff Arm said:

Bulldogs have quite a few of them. Both Libba and Hunter are good players despite this. Managed to get rid of the worst one though: Stringer

Is it Hunter wanting out or is it the Digs pushing? 

Didn’t he have some time away from the game earlier this year? 

[Fat Tony 5,291]

26 minutes ago, binman said:

He's good kick in terms of hitting short and medium targets, which is critical because when those kicks are turned over it often gift the oppo a scoring opportunity - and of course our potential scoring chain is broken.

The shocking turnover by may on the HB against the swans in the semi is the perfect example - we went from controlling the ball (and the game for that matter) and looking to transition and create a scoring chain, to gifting them a goal (and arguablly the game).    

I agree being a left footer helps. Good left footers so often get gifted space to release the ball. 

I have a Bulldog's friend who is an excellent judge of football and Hunter is his whipping boy for his kicking.

I hope if we get Hunter that we play our wingers so they on their preferred side towards the boundary. Langdon kicks a lot out on the full on his left side. Hunter is not a defensive wingman, so we would need to adjust our game plan to be more willing to attack along both wings.

[Adam The God 30,553]

1 hour ago, binman said:

Agree.

I don't care about his leg speed - he is an excellent kick, which is what we really need. And is a reliable set shot, so can play the rotating half forward mid chop out role. 

If Salem can get back to his best, Bowey comes back in and we snare Hunter, then suddenly our kicking skills looks a lot better. 

Agreed. I wonder if they'll try and play Fritsch higher across half forward, which allows him to double back and follow the mids, and use his natural goal sense.

Salem, Bowey, Hunter, Fritsch and Spargo all good kicks.

Edited October 10, 2022 by A F

[layzie 34,169]

If we were after Hunter I can't see the game plan not evolving. 

[Stiff Arm 4,419]

26 minutes ago, CYB said:

Is it Hunter wanting out or is it the Digs pushing? 

Didn’t he have some time away from the game earlier this year? 

I know a kid that was in the Bullies VFL side a couple of years ago. Some if the stories he told me would make anyone cringe

Having said that, probably happens to some extent at most clubs 

[binman 44,273]

31 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

I have a Bulldog's friend who is an excellent judge of football and Hunter is his whipping boy for his kicking.

That's interesting. 

it can be easy to over rate oppo players when you only watch them sporadically. 

Disposal efficiency is not the most useful stat and arguably nor is clangers, in terms off assessing foot skills as there are lots of intersecting variables - for example a mid like Viney who gets most of their kicks under pressure might have poor DE and high clangers.

That said i compared Salm and Hunter over their career (quite comparable as Hunter was drafted the year before Salem) and these were the effective disposal per game, DE and clangers numbers (Hunter is on the left)

17.4	Effective Disposals	14.9
74.4%	Disposal Efficiency %	74.9%
2.3	Clangers	2.4

Edited October 10, 2022 by binman

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,099]

Hunter won a B&F for the Dogs so he must have something going for him.

[Demongirl35 1,077]

20 minutes ago, Stiff Arm said:

I know a kid that was in the Bullies VFL side a couple of years ago. Some if the stories he told me would make anyone cringe

Having said that, probably happens to some extent at most clubs 

Yeah I have worked at a couple of vfl clubs and know a couple of people who are good friends with some in the afl and the stories are shocking. Lots of money means lots of abuse on nose sugar that’s for sure. I’ve also seen a few afl players out after a game and wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve chewed all their gums from the inside of their cheeks off… pretty disturbing to look at no matter who you are. 

Edited October 10, 2022 by Demongirl35

[Older demon 2,796]

As nothing has happened yet I think we can see a pattern developing in the list management team. While not as overt as Geelong my impression is that hit season gone we stuck with the premiership group and developed lots of new talent at Casey. With retirements and Jackson going it looks like the club are resetting and looking to back the young talent we have developed. 

Clearly, they knew Jacko was going and went after Grundy! JVR is groomed to step up to a key position up forward and other players in the wings are given the option of moving. Maybe didn't see Bedford going but have noise around Hunt, Harmes, Tomlinson & Weid suggest a refresh.

The club IMO believes it is in the premiership window and is building for now hence looking at Hunter. At the same time, they are looking to store some draft picks for 2023 with their eye on kids they have been following.

A bit of long-term planning happening which isn't entirely obvious to us mere mortals

[Adam The God 30,553]

50 minutes ago, layzie said:

If we were after Hunter I can't see the game plan not evolving. 

I think we've long identified that we could do with more good kicks on the team. And to be honest, this should be a perpetual focus of any list management for any team. Particularly, if you can combine this with the pieces we already have in place - the inside bulls that win contests in outnumbered situations.

[Deemania since 56 6,751]

11 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

Maybe the FD have faith that Disco is able to come in and play Petty’s role, allowing Petts to move up forward and partner with JVR?

It's a stupid question, I know but so far, I have not been able to establish who 'Disco' happens to be; not familiar with the personality, I cannot extend my aptitudes to first-name, good-mates nick-names; sadly, this is one of those blue sky conundrums for me. Could someone kindly let me know who is who? Maybe, a listing of the lingua franca for abbreviated nomenclatures could help others, as well? Over to you, kind personage.

[TRIGON 4,792]

Just now, Deemania since 56 said:

It's a stupid question, I know but so far, I have not been able to establish who 'Disco' happens to be; not familiar with the personality, I cannot extend my aptitudes to first-name, good-mates nick-names; sadly, this is one of those blue sky conundrums for me. Could someone kindly let me know who is who? Maybe, a listing of the lingua franca for abbreviated nomenclatures could help others, as well? Over to you, kind personage.

Daniel "Disco" Turner. #42.

[FlogDee 34]

1 hour ago, CYB said:

Is it Hunter wanting out or is it the Digs pushing? 

Didn’t he have some time away from the game earlier this year? 

Dogs pushing him out

[deelusions from afar 1,869]

3 minutes ago, FlogDee said:

Dogs pushing him out

I thought they poured cold water on this last week.  Have there been further reports this is still alive?

[Deemania since 56 6,751]

1 minute ago, TRIGON said:

Daniel "Disco" Turner. #42.

Thank you,  TRIGON, much appreciated. I know of the player as it happens to be yet had no awareness of his 'Disco' identity. He is a fine young footballer, with very good potential. Again, many thanks - I feel better informed for your efforts. :-)

[Demonland 73,285]

 

[dl4e 5,851]

If we recruit both Hunter and Bruce from the dogs there is something seriously wrong at the MFC Enough said.

[spirit of norm smith 16,597]

For the current talk 

MFC to give 

Jackson (Freo) and Weideman (Ess)

MFC to get 

Freo 1st 2022 pick AND Freo 1st 2023 pick AND Freo 2nd 2023 pick 

hmmm - that’s unders imv  

(With the Weid to trade for Dons 2023 3rd rd future pick then this is ontraded to Freo). 

Edited October 10, 2022 by spirit of norm smith
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