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POSTGAME: Rd 16 vs Adelaide

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It was rather odd to hear Ricciuto say Fogarty and Lever didn't like each other.  They were never team mates, in fact Fogarty was recruited with the pick Crows got for Lever.  And they would have only played against each other 2 or 3 times.  Odd.

And as for saying Lever 'got into' Fogarty for what was a gentle push to the shoulders, well Ricciuto has gone soft if he thinks that is 'getting into'.  It certainly didn't warrant the punch to the stomach from Fogarty in return.

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    Our defensive effort was supreme considering Adelaide are the best pressure side in the comp. Pesky bunch those young Crows. 

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    Anyone else notice the friendly banter Walker and Lever were having after the game.  Maybe hatchets have been buried.

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     Crows have got Tex mania. He cavorts around like a big fairy, does encourage, kick goals, but can be run off and is not fit. That's why Lever and May would like playing off him and leave Petty to punch.

    In fact half the Ad forward line is probably not much better.

    Still very crook on this game umpires.The inconsistency was profound and was not haphazard but very disappointing that AFL umpires would stoop to being this low.

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    4 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

    Anyone else notice the friendly banter Walker and Lever were having after the game.  Maybe hatchets have been buried.

    Lever recruiting! For the greater good!

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    7 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

    Anyone else notice the friendly banter Walker and Lever were having after the game.  Maybe hatchets have been buried.

    First time they've played since we won the flag. Maybe Tex admitted he was wrong

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    3 minutes ago, adonski said:

    Lever recruiting! For the greater good!

    And then he can berate Jacko for leaving for money over success. What could go wrong.

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    9 hours ago, AmDamDemon said:

    Good, gutsy effort. Our midfield is just mint. One of my favourite moments of the day was David King saying that Steven May needed to be dragged or taken off Walker. Gave me a good laugh, that did. Oh, and club record intercepts marks 👏

    He kicked 2 goals for the day,  both from dubious free kicks.

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    30 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

    It was rather odd to hear Ricciuto say Fogarty and Lever didn't like each other.  They were never team mates, in fact Fogarty was recruited with the pick Crows got for Lever.  And they would have only played against each other 2 or 3 times.  Odd.

    And as for saying Lever 'got into' Fogarty for what was a gentle push to the shoulders, well Ricciuto has gone soft if he thinks that is 'getting into'.  It certainly didn't warrant the punch to the stomach from Fogarty in return.

    The punch was higher, probably the ribs and would hurt at that instant.

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    8 hours ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

    If the AFL want umpires to be respected, make them full time professionals,  pay them properly and stop the constant rules changes.

     

    The fact is though, it is easier and cheaper just to control what commentators and media say about them, all spin and no action, what Gil does best.

    Gotta pay for Robbie Williams instead right?

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    8 minutes ago, Redleg said:

    The punch was higher, probably the ribs and would hurt at that instant.

    Wherever it was it wasn't warranted.  Wouldn't be surprised to see Fogarty get a deserved fine:  deliberate, behind play.

    What I particularly didn't like was a commentator saying Lever dropped too easily.  Sick of commentators making out our players stage when hit.  I reckon that is why Clarrie didn't get a free for the wallop across his head, umpires think he stages so doesn't get much protection.

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    31 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

    It was rather odd to hear Ricciuto say Fogarty and Lever didn't like each other.  They were never team mates, in fact Fogarty was recruited with the pick Crows got for Lever.  And they would have only played against each other 2 or 3 times.  Odd.

    And as for saying Lever 'got into' Fogarty for what was a gentle push to the shoulders, well Ricciuto has gone soft if he thinks that is 'getting into'.  It certainly didn't warrant the punch to the stomach from Fogarty in return.

    I wonder if Fogartys punch on Lever or Clarry copping a forearm to the head will get cited ahead of Kozzys legitimate shoulder and arm into the ribs of a crow player early in the game.

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    8 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

      Wouldn't be surprised to see Fogarty get a deserved fine:  deliberate, behind play.

     

    Kozzie gave Butts one in the bread basket, but in play. We will see. 

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    10 minutes ago, Brownie said:

    I wonder if Fogartys punch on Lever or Clarry copping a forearm to the head will get cited ahead of Kozzys legitimate shoulder and arm into the ribs of a crow player early in the game.

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    My assessment:

    Kozzie's by far the lesser of the three:  was in play, careless, low force = Fine. 

    Fogarty: behind play, deliberate, medium force (I think Lever went off after it) = one match but it won't be rated as that,  More likely low impact so just a fine. 

    The forearm to Clarrie's head:  High contact , low/medium force = one match but mist likely a fine if at all.  No discussion on it in the media so MRO may just overlook it.

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    12 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

    Wherever it was it wasn't warranted.  Wouldn't be surprised to see Fogarty get a deserved fine:  deliberate, behind play.

    What I particularly didn't like was a commentator saying Lever dropped too easily.  Sick of commentators making out our players stage when hit.  I reckon that is why Clarrie didn't get a free for the wallop across his head, umpires think he stages so doesn't get much protection.

    I wish someone would invent a machine that can reproduce such blows accurately and wheneever a commentator says a player dropped too easily they would have to take the same blow from the machine.  They'd shut up quick smart.

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    27 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

    Wherever it was it wasn't warranted.  Wouldn't be surprised to see Fogarty get a deserved fine:  deliberate, behind play.

    What I particularly didn't like was a commentator saying Lever dropped too easily.  Sick of commentators making out our players stage when hit.  I reckon that is why Clarrie didn't get a free for the wallop across his head, umpires think he stages so doesn't get much protection.

    IMO Fogarty's act was the worst of the lot. Out of play, from behind Lever (so he didn't see it coming). Just a cheap assault to be honest.

    If someone hit any one of us in the guts like that, from behind, while we were not prepared or expecting it, we would drop like a proverbial sack too.

    I don't know why it is considered tough to take a punch off the ball.

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    36 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

    Wherever it was it wasn't warranted.  Wouldn't be surprised to see Fogarty get a deserved fine:  deliberate, behind play.

    What I particularly didn't like was a commentator saying Lever dropped too easily.  Sick of commentators making out our players stage when hit.  I reckon that is why Clarrie didn't get a free for the wallop across his head, umpires think he stages so doesn't get much protection.

    Hey, LH could you see our Brownlow tally diminished across the board, would be interesting.

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    Impressive to keepCrows to only 10-5 with their ruck dominance and 2/3 goals from umpiring.

    Demons all ground defence is terrific.

    Great to see Langdon up and running again and Trac also back to his best with a few goals.

    Very good win all things considered.

    Maxy back in side for Cats is terrific.

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    7 minutes ago, deanox said:

    I don't know why it is considered tough to take a punch off the ball.

    Because the ‘commentators’ they choose to cough-up said nonsense honestly don’t know any better. Which sadly their employers know and love. We just need better commentators. 

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    1 minute ago, willmoy said:

    Hey, LH could you see our Brownlow tally diminished across the board, would be interesting.

    I'm not sure if it is across the board but I reckon Clarrie gets a raw deal from the umps.   Won the coaches award last year is well ahead so far this year.

    Will be interesting how he fares this year in the Brownlow.

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    16 minutes ago, deanox said:

    IMO Fogarty's act was the worst of the lot. Out of play, from behind Lever (so he didn't see it coming). Just a cheap assault to be honest.

    If someone hit any one of us in the guts like that, from behind, while we were not prepared or expecting it, we would drop like a proverbial sack too.

    I don't know why it is considered tough to take a punch off the ball.

    I think Lever was facing Fogarty but it was still unwarranted away from the field of play.

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    Great to see quite a lot of comment on the Umpiring out of that game which we won reasonably comfortably. I don't think it hurts the AFL to have some sort of post season enquiry into all things to do with loading on Umpires including that cartoon rubbish in slow motion that was hilarious. 

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    36 minutes ago, sue said:

    I wish someone would invent a machine that can reproduce such blows accurately and wheneever a commentator says a player dropped too easily they would have to take the same blow from the machine.  They'd shut up quick smart.

    The Karl Pilkington machine eh. Genius!

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