On 09/03/2022 at 10:45, Wells 11 said:

Times sure have changed havent they. Some great memories being created here. 

I remember when lists like these came out we'd have none!

  On 09/03/2022 at 06:32, Satan said:

Top 5

1. Petracca

2. Bontempelli

3. Oliver

4. Martin

5. Gawn

Other Dees

24. Fritsch

31. May

35. Lever

48. Salem (thought he would be higher)

7 in Top 48  

3 in Top 5 

TOP 50

50. Tarryn Thomas

49. James Sicily

48. Christian Salem

47. Zac Bailey

46. Daniel Rich

45. Callum Mills

44. Tom Liberatore

43. Mitch Duncan

42. Bailey Smith

41. Dylan Grimes

40. Tom Mitchell

39. Josh Kelly

38. Harris Andrews

37. Charlie Cameron

36. Lachie Whitfield

35. Jake Lever

34. Patrick Cripps

33. Jeremy Cameron

32. Darcy Moore

31. Steven May

30. Darcy Parish

29. Jacob Weitering

28. Nic Naitanui

27. Sean Darcy

26. Hugh McCluggage

25. Zak Butters

24. Bayley Fritsch

23. Jake Stringer

22. Toby Greene

21. Zach Merrett

20. Nick Vlastuin

19. Tom Stewart

18. Jackson Macrae

17. Jack Steele

16. Patrick Dangerfield

15. Rowan Marshall

14. Touk Miller

13. Harry McKay

12. Tom Hawkins

11. Lance Franklin

10. Lachie Neale

9. Ollie Wines

8. Sam Walsh

7. Aaron Naughton

6. Nathan Fyfe

5. Max Gawn

4. Dustin Martin

3. Clayton Oliver

2. Marcus Bontempelli

1. Christian Petracca

You gotta be joking - Franklin (11) and Hawkins (12) they are on their last legs . they need walking sticks to get themselves onto the ground.. Give me a break Robbo.

The other question I seriously have is... Is Bontempelli really that good ? He is not in my book a Number 2...

  On 09/03/2022 at 07:45, Sir Why You Little said:

Is it only us who notice Christian Salem??

He is a gun. His 1st Quarter in the GF was 10/10

i just don’t understand why he is so underrated…

Correct should be in top 20 in the competition, also where is ED LANGDON??? Easily in top 50 easily!!

IMV It should read 1 Oliver 2 Tracc 3 Gawn 4 Bontempelli then the rest!

Edited March 9, 20223 yr by picket fence

  On 09/03/2022 at 07:45, Sir Why You Little said:

Is it only us who notice Christian Salem??

He is a gun. His 1st Quarter in the GF was 10/10

i just don’t understand why he is so underrated…

Agreed. Let him be under the radar. Certainly was a key player all through 2021 and especially on GF Day. Salem is a star. 

It's always insightful to read expert's conclusions after their thorough research...

Please let me know when he releases his 'top 50 reds under $10'.

  On 09/03/2022 at 11:16, Jjrogan said:

I think there's a legit typo.

Zak Butters at 25.  125 perhaps? Maybe should be Zac Bailey?

Averaged 18 touches, 3 tackles and less than a goal a game last year.  

Rowan Marshall at 15?

 

Above Jack Steele even?

 

Slobbo write this in his bar seat in the inverloch pub again?

I like when he has a few throws at the stumps.

Marshall is fit this year, was completely stuffed with injuries last year. And will get a lot of ruck minutes. It’s not unreasonable to suggest he’ll be the 2nd best ruck in the comp.

I love Zak Butters too, but he belongs in the 40’s with Bailey Smith and Zac Bailey, not in the 20’s with McCluggage.

That said, if you’re going to gamble on young players on the up then I think going Gawn at 5, Fyfe at 6, Buddy and Hawkins at 11, 12. Mitchell 40 and Grimes 41 is also going with a heap of veterans. I’d shift all of those back a few rungs.
 

Fritsch is also way too high. May, Lever, Salem are all comfortably better players than him. 

Edited March 10, 20223 yr by DeeSpencer

Good to see someone finally rate the boy from Coldstream, Fritschy

  On 10/03/2022 at 00:36, DeeSpencer said:

I like when he has a few throws at the stumps.

Marshall is fit this year, was completely stuffed with injuries last year. And will get a lot of ruck minutes. It’s not unreasonable to suggest he’ll be the 2nd best ruck in the comp.

I love Zak Butters too, but he belongs in the 40’s with Bailey Smith and Zac Bailey, not in the 20’s with McCluggage.

That said, if you’re going to gamble on young players on the up then I think going Gawn at 5, Fyfe at 6, Buddy and Hawkins at 11, 12. Mitchell 40 and Grimes 41 is also going with a heap of veterans. I’d shift all of those back a few rungs.
 

Fritch is also way too high. May, Lever, Salem are all comfortably better players than him. 

Your continued under valuing of Fritta in comparison to our champion defenders is very strange.  He has now started to average more than 2 goals a game in the best AFL competition in the land. And he keeps oN improving. His bags over 2 per game including a stellar Finsls Series in the last half of the season were a sure sign of Bsyley being at the top of his game. 6 in the GF was nearly Norm Smith Medal standard.

You are also still one of the very few that have not recognised the skills and improvement inc. tackling and pressure in Bayleys game. Time  to admit you are wrong and give credit where credit is due. 

 

The reaction to these lists is always the same...why is this player so low and why is that player so high.

  On 10/03/2022 at 00:51, 58er said:

Your continued under valuing of Fritta in comparison to our champion defenders is very strange.  He has now started to average more than 2 goals a game in the best AFL competition in the land. And he keeps oN improving. His bags over 2 per game including a stellar Finsls Series in the last half of the season were a sure sign of Bsyley being at the top of his game. 6 in the GF was nearly Norm Smith Medal standard.

You are also still one of the very few that have not recognised the skills and improvement inc. tackling and pressure in Bayleys game. Time  to admit you are wrong and give credit where credit is due. 

 

There’s no evidence of significant improvement in his tackling and pressure. A little better, sure, but not a lot.

Im also rating him belong 3 defenders who have had AA level seasons over the last 2 years. I’m not saying he’s behind Jayden Hunt.

He finished 11th in our B+F. So I’m happy to be in the camp with the premiership coaches rather than Robbo and a bunch of other forum members.

  On 09/03/2022 at 07:45, Sir Why You Little said:

Is it only us who notice Christian Salem??

He is a gun. His 1st Quarter in the GF was 10/10

i just don’t understand why he is so underrated…

Starts in the backline most bounces 

  On 10/03/2022 at 01:34, DeeSpencer said:

There’s no evidence of significant improvement in his tackling and pressure. A little better, sure, but not a lot.

HAHAHA

comedy Gold again from Spence

  On 09/03/2022 at 07:45, Sir Why You Little said:

Is it only us who notice Christian Salem??

He is a gun. His 1st Quarter in the GF was 10/10

i just don’t understand why he is so underrated…

Was extremely stiff not to get All Aus guernsey. By the end of the final series it was clear which one of he & Bailey Dale was the more effective player under pressure.

  On 10/03/2022 at 03:54, ChaserJ said:

Was extremely stiff not to get All Aus guernsey. By the end of the final series it was clear which one of he & Bailey Dale was the more effective player under pressure.

Spot on and these so called “Expert Hacks” have had all summer to watch the Final Series, and still he is not rated!

  On 09/03/2022 at 13:35, hardtack said:

Trac was asked on AFL360 to name his top 5… he named Buddy as his number 5.

I think that over the course of his career Buddy would easily be a top 5 player. He was a freak. He still is, he is just on his last legs. 

The issue is we need to start separating these lists into "top 50 of the last decade" vs "top 50 of the last year". Because those lists do change with time, but some 'experts' don't want to move on.