MFC AGM

[old dee 22,995]

1 hour ago, BDA said:

Any progress update about the home base?

Still as the grave.

[Skuit 9,382]

People complain that we're still wasting money on postal votes. Then complain that we didn't host an in-person AGM. 

[Grimes Times 1,278]

25 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Football staff don't usually attend the AGM do they?  Did any of them participate in the AGM last night?

Coaches would and not uncommon for players to attend especially new recruits who would get introduced/interviewed from my experiance.

[Sir Why You Little 34,952]

Wow. Didn’t even know it was on. 
Would have thought in a Premiership year the AGM would be a Celebration and a springboard to the new season 

disappointed

[Deeoldfart 7,821]

IIRC, Kate Roffey did mention something along the lines that Covid meant that the Meeting could not be held ‘in person’, which I thought was slightly odd at the time.

As an interstate member, I was more than happy that the Meeting was conducted via Zoom.  More inclusive of the wider membership.

[dazzledavey36 49,380]

8 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Wow. Didn’t even know it was on. 
Would have thought in a Premiership year the AGM would be a Celebration and a springboard to the new season 

disappointed

Feel like we've had a fair few of these kind of celebrations into the new season type events this year already. It's been done to death now.

If people are still wanting reason to celebrate then watch the replay.

Our sole focus should be on 2022 season.

[Katrina Dee Fan 2,483]

26 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Wow. Didn’t even know it was on. 
Would have thought in a Premiership year the AGM would be a Celebration and a springboard to the new season 

disappointed

Not sure how you didn't know, given emails were sent as were postal votes, to all eligible voting members.  I received this email on 7 February

Edited March 3, 2022 by Katrina Dee Fan

[Sir Why You Little 34,952]

30 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Feel like we've had a fair few of these kind of celebrations into the new season type events this year already. It's been done to death now.

If people are still wanting reason to celebrate then watch the replay.

Our sole focus should be on 2022 season.

A report from Pert and Roffey would have sufficed

we had them every year with PJ

[Sir Why You Little 34,952]

20 minutes ago, Katrina Dee Fan said:

Not sure how you didn't know, given emails were sent as were postal votes, to all eligible voting members.  I received this email on 7 February

I didn’t know. Sorry to disappoint you

[Demon17 4,657]

1 hour ago, hemingway said:

 

My observation simply piggybacked Lucifers comment about (why) attendance at B&F and not AGM.  

I would have thought that after a flag and an incredible amount of goodwill, an open AGM would have been appropriate.  Surely nothing to be afraid of. The existing President and Board should be out there and proud. 

Kate Roffey stated early in the meeting that it wasn't in-person due to MCC/MCG protocols.  Just because cricket was held there maybe there are other issue not resolved in time to allow an open AGM.

Anyhow that was the comment.

[Demon17 4,657]

1 hour ago, dpositive said:

An you numbers given?

No, just the %'s.

Peter Lawrence's result was well behind successful candidates, but at 29% should give the Board something to think about that a not insubstantial number of votes went to a new and 'independent' person.

An effective Board will hear this message. Its also a good sign the members are engaged (those who voted anyway)

Can I add that at least we had an election and not some back room process as occurs usually at the Pies under McGuire.

[58er 5,675]

1 hour ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Thanks.  Not being a zoom user I wasn't aware it was of its capabilities.

Nonetheless, given that the recent fan Forum was neither zoom nor live with members it does leave one wondering about level of member involvement or access to the senior parts of our club.

To watch you had to register an interest and info on the day was sent,

The main thing out of it was that each section of the Club gave a report or Coaching, Off Field, Playing but very few questions were asked snd even referred to.

Richo Goody Perty and Tim Lamb gave reports and Ben Gibson compared the night which went for about 35 minutes from memory.

[Demons1858 1,663]

1 hour ago, Deeoldfart said:

IIRC, Kate Roffey did mention something along the lines that Covid meant that the Meeting could not be held ‘in person’, which I thought was slightly odd at the time.

As an interstate member, I was more than happy that the Meeting was conducted via Zoom.  More inclusive of the wider membership.

You can do both these days

[Deepfreeze 167]

As mentioned, 3 existing board members returned in what looked like a landslide on the bar graph displayed.

Pert talked for 20 minutes on Financials. All indicators are promising with 50K crowds at home games listed as 'a challenge'.

All the other metrics were going strong. We made 2.6 (I think) million operating profit. Big turnaround from last year and a lot of it due to plebs like me spending $100's on merch post premiership. Was not expected to make this sort of profit given the pandemic. Missing out on Queens Birthday cost us about 2 Million.

Bentleigh is still an asset till later this year. The money from that sale will be put into a 'futures fund' rather than being spent on operations or jacking up losses into profits.

Richo talked for about 10 minutes on footy related matters. No great revelations.

According to our Constitution, we cannot use electronic voting as 'mail vote' means mail vote according to lawyers. It's a bit like the second amendment in the States I suppose. Anyway, that will be looked at but probably one of those things where members have to get ~80% or something to change? The last change to this to enforce mail votes would have been post Hawthorn merger given what happened that night and to stop that happening again. This was before voting electronically on the internet was available.

Kate spoke of the facilities for the club at Goshes. While the oval is being re-done to be G length and Docklands wide, negotiations are still being done regarding Admin & training facilities but are progressing 'strongly'. Alas, she cannot say more than that as it's a State Government affected project.

Also spoken was MFC commitment to first peoples through various initiatives. Forget the name of that project. The new Oval we built near Alice got flooded and might need more work. Chip in a few dollars if you can when approached.

Edited March 3, 2022 by Deepfreeze

[Lord Nev 13,511]

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/1070518/agm-kate-roffey?videoId=1070518&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1646267739001

@old dee

[old dee 22,995]

36 minutes ago, Deepfreeze said:

As mentioned, 3 existing board members returned in what looked like a landslide on the bar graph displayed.

Pert talked for 20 minutes on Financials. All indicators are promising with 50K crowds at home games listed as 'a challenge'.

All the other metrics were going strong. We made 2.6 (I think) million operating profit. Big turnaround from last year and a lot of it due to plebs like me spending $100's on merch post premiership. Was not expected to make this sort of profit given the pandemic. Missing out on Queens Birthday cost us about 2 Million.

Bentleigh is still an asset till later this year. The money from that sale will be put into a 'futures fund' rather than being spent on operations or jacking up losses into profits.

Richo talked for about 10 minutes on footy related matters. No great revelations.

According to our Constitution, we cannot use electronic voting as 'mail vote' means mail vote according to lawyers. It's a bit like the second amendment in the States I suppose. Anyway, that will be looked at but probably one of those things where members have to get ~80% or something to change? The last change to this to enforce mail votes would have been post Hawthorn merger given what happened that night and to stop that happening again. This was before voting electronically on the internet was available.

Kate spoke of the facilities for the club at Goshes. While the oval is being re-done to be G length and Docklands wide, negotiations are still being done regarding Admin & training facilities but are progressing 'strongly'. Alas, she cannot say more than that as it's a State Government affected project.

Also spoken was MFC commitment to first peoples through various initiatives. Forget the name of that project. The new Oval we built near Alice got flooded and might need more work. Chip in a few dollars if you can when approached.

They have been progressing strongly now for 4 years. 2 elephants to the same mother could have been born in that time. Makes the Stawell gift look like a sloth race.

Edited March 3, 2022 by old dee

[Deepfreeze 167]

25 minutes ago, old dee said:

They have been progressing strongly now for 4 years. 2 elephants to the same mother could have been born in that time. Makes the Stawell gift look like a sloth race.

That is true, but I have more faith in Kate to deliver than past incumbents.

[old dee 22,995]

8 minutes ago, Deepfreeze said:

That is true, but I have more faith in Kate to deliver than past incumbents.

It will happen DF. But it would be nice to know what the hold up is? We have been hearing the same words for 4 years. 

[Skuit 9,382]

1 hour ago, Deepfreeze said:

According to our Constitution, we cannot use electronic voting as 'mail vote' means mail vote according to lawyers. It's a bit like the second amendment in the States I suppose. Anyway, that will be looked at but probably one of those things where members have to get ~80% or something to change?

The people who have been complaining about the costs involved in a postal vote seem to forget the investment it will take to switch to a digital one. It's not small fry - we're among the largest sporting clubs in Australia competing in a multi-billion dollar competition. The cost of lawyers to rewrite our constitution and have it signed off would probably outstrip the cost of a single postal election, let alone the expense of building or licensing a secure online voting platform. I understand that each election is a sunken cost, but we are in a period of budgetary squeeze and it's simply not a priority - rather than a lack of haste as some would like to frame it. 

[Fritta and Turner 3,839]

29 minutes ago, Skuit said:

The people who have been complaining about the costs involved in a postal vote seem to forget the investment it will take to switch to a digital one. It's not small fry - we're among the largest sporting clubs in Australia competing in a multi-billion dollar competition. The cost of lawyers to rewrite our constitution and have it signed off would probably outstrip the cost of a single postal election, let alone the expense of building or licensing a secure online voting platform. I understand that each election is a sunken cost, but we are in a period of budgetary squeeze and it's simply not a priority - rather than a lack of haste as some would like to frame it. 

Tend to agree that the cost is dead money but sooner or later it has to be updated.  And we do have $9 mill in cash.  I dont think we would build our own voting platform just ask like one of the share registry's to conduct it.

[jnrmac 19,327]

5 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

How do you 'edit out' questions in a live zoom OD?

 

You get written questions that are submitted and not made public The moderator then chooses which questions to answer to give the veneer of an open and transparent process. 

The current Board have proven very poor with transparency

[Lord Nev 13,511]

4 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

You get written questions that are submitted and not made public The moderator then chooses which questions to answer to give the veneer of an open and transparent process. 

The current Board have proven very poor with transparency

They could do the same with a 'real life' presentation too.

Fact is, if they call for open questions it's no different on zoom.

[peasant 62]

15 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

They could do the same with a 'real life' presentation too.

Fact is, if they call for open questions it's no different on zoom.

Well it depends what the set up is.

With an in-person meeting, you can have a microphone set up in a room where people queue up and ask any questions they want - then it is a little more transparent. In an AGM, you might get a good question about the progress or the training base. But you might also get someone asking why Michael Newton isn't getting a game.

I've also seen in-person meetings where people submit questions beforehand, Similar to what can happen in a Zoom / MS Teams forum, questions are more likely to have a screening process where the moderator / PR person can decide what questions are asked.  

It really boils down to being open and accountable versus protecting the brand / controlling the message.

Edited March 3, 2022 by peasant

[Lord Nev 13,511]

12 minutes ago, peasant said:

Well it depends what the set up is.

With an in-person meeting, you can have a microphone set up in a room where people queue up and ask any questions they want - then it is a little more transparent.

That's no different to on zoom.

Either way they don't know what the person is going to ask.

 

[Cyclops 456]

The board under Ms Roffey has set up a sub committee to change what needs to be changed in the constitution, not limited to postal elections.

The constitution is a contract between the the club and it members and it will take 75 percent of members to say yes to the new constitution .

Put the weight of your membership behind the initiative and make sure we have the best constitution for the members and the club in unison