On 5/12/2022 at 10:12 AM, djr said:

Where? Who would you drop? We are having difficulty getting Salem back in.

could take ANB spot or jordon's in a reshuffle. he will be a premier small forward for the next decade he's only 21 now. imagine he and kozzy together. essendon were the closest to securing him last year but now have 2x davey boys coming through as well as new recruit wanganeen so maybe less interest especially if tippa gets back up and running and the pies and you'd think would ask the question again as well as maybe hawthorn and NM. Honestly even sides like carlton and richmond who have small forwards would be upgrading if they got hill. genuinely not a single vic club he wouldnt improve

On 5/12/2022 at 11:31 AM, Deeoldfart said:

Maybe Hill will no longer want to leave GWS, with a new senior coach coming on board.

he wants to come closer to family with 2 young kids

Has testicular cancer.  Get well mate.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-29/gws-giants-bobby-hill-diagnosed-with-testicular-cancer/101108524?utm_campaign=abc_news_web&utm_content=link&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_source=abc_news_web

Peeved we didn’t chase Hill last year. He was the difference in two finals. 

1 minute ago, Fat Tony said:

Peeved we didn’t chase Hill last year. He was the difference in two finals. 

28% of Collingwood's goals this finals series.  In all sorts of different conditions.  He literally won them the flag.

I thought he was a flake at GWS, certainly proved me wrong and stood up in big games. Great finals series from Hill.

Why don't we just go to the police station in a big clown suit and show everyone exactly what we're doing.

His hanger and goal was chef's kiss beautiful. Can't stand Collingwood but gotta respect that effort. Fair play to him, he had a massive day out yesterday and totally deserved the Norm.

His performance yesterday plus the finals has catapulted him into elite status for small forwards of the competition.

To then put on that performance yesterday in front of 100k is seriously impressive. 

Hope Kozzie was watching.

Edited September 30, 20232 yr by dazzledavey36

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

His performance yesterday plus the finals has catapulted him into elite status for small forwards of the competition.

To then put on that performance yesterday in front of 100k is seriously impressive. 

Hope Kozzie was watching.

I also hope Goodwin was watching, it's amazing what happens when you have a player that stays around the forward line but it was also bad coaching from the lions who allowed their players to be drawn up the ground and allowing that, it's been the pies game plan all year keeping Hill or Elliot to play that role.

Kudos to the prescient ones.

 

 

Kudos to Turner for pushing this.

At the same time, the Pies use their forwards and deliver to them at a much classier / effective level than we do (much of the time anyway).

Plus they manage to clear out their forward line when they need to to get some of these one v ones going.

Their ability to transition quickly plus then get the ball into the hands of dangerous finshers to deliver to these types and / or hit the scoreboard themselves on occasions is also probably the most effective going around right now.

Simon would do well to take notice of their finals series here.

It held up well under all sorts of pressure and their speedy transition, miserly team defence and quality forward craft ended up delivering them the ultimate prize.

30 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Kudos to Turner for pushing this.

At the same time, the Pies use their forwards and deliver to them at a much classier / effective level than we do (much of the time anyway).

Plus they manage to clear out their forward line when they need to to get some of these one v ones going.

Their ability to transition quickly plus then get the ball into the hands of dangerous finshers to deliver to these types and / or hit the scoreboard themselves on occasions is also probably the most effective going around right now.

Simon would do well to take notice of their finals series here.

It held up well under all sorts of pressure and their speedy transition, miserly team defence and quality forward craft ended up delivering them the ultimate prize.

With the exception of the GF, games were played in their back half, so they defended brilliantly, but that meant heaps of space in behind the opposition when they eventually won the ball in space. That space enables dangerous forward entries.

10 minutes ago, Binmans PA said:

With the exception of the GF, games were played in their back half, so they defended brilliantly, but that meant heaps of space in behind the opposition when they eventually won the ball in space. That space enables dangerous forward entries.

A fantastic approach to take if you have a rock solid defence, skilled and pacey players from the back half right through to the forward half and a coach who encourages an exciting offensively minded game style when you win the ball back. 

Baffling that they won the Granny though!? 

 

2 minutes ago, JimmyGadson said:

A fantastic approach to take if you have a rock solid defence, skilled and pacey players from the back half right through to the forward half and a coach who encourages an exciting offensively minded game style when you win the ball back. 

Baffling that they won the Granny though!? 

 

They were so offensively minded, they won a GF by kicking 12 goals.

Their ability to stay in games, particularly in the finals series, hinged on their ability to defend. Not their ability to attack.

They managed 9 goals, 8 goals and 12 goals. What an offensive master-class! They won the flag due to their defence...

1 minute ago, Binmans PA said:

They were so offensively minded, they won a GF by kicking 12 goals.

Their ability to stay in games, particularly in the finals series, hinged on their ability to defend. Not their ability to attack.

They managed 9 goals, 8 goals and 12 goals. What an offensive master-class! They won the flag due to their defence...

You know what I reckon Collingwood do well? They 'extend' games. 

Games that could be dead are kept alive thanks to their great rearguard and never say die attitude 

3 minutes ago, layzie said:

You know what I reckon Collingwood do well? They 'extend' games. 

Games that could be dead are kept alive thanks to their great rearguard and never say die attitude 

Yeah, they definitely take the game on. Their midfield cattle isn't great at winning contests, but N Daicos, if allowed to run from one end to the other and connect their play, has the ability to hit targets that open up the game. He's not the only Collingwood player that is an elite kick, but their better cattle for score generation is elite kicking. Our elite players for score generation tend to be our contested players who aren't elite kicks, but win contest after contest. A good system should play to the strengths of the list. But it always comes back to defence in big finals.

I'd also love an NGA prospect like Quaynor. He's an out and out star. I recall him being beaten once by Cameron yesterday that led to that goal, but otherwise he and their defenders rarely lose contests behind the ball. He certainly doesn't.

I'm certainly guilty of underrating their defenders and their capability to win crucial 1v1s.

11 minutes ago, Binmans PA said:

Yeah, they definitely take the game on. Their midfield cattle isn't great at winning contests, but N Daicos, if allowed to run from one end to the other and connect their play, has the ability to hit targets that open up the game. He's not the only Collingwood player that is an elite kick, but their better cattle for score generation is elite kicking. Our elite players for score generation tend to be our contested players who aren't elite kicks, but win contest after contest. A good system should play to the strengths of the list. But it always comes back to defence in big finals.

I'd also love an NGA prospect like Quaynor. He's an out and out star. I recall him being beaten once by Cameron yesterday that led to that goal, but otherwise he and their defenders rarely lose contests behind the ball. He certainly doesn't.

I'm certainly guilty of underrating their defenders and their capability to win crucial 1v1s.

Quaynor would be the best 1v1 small defender going right now IMO.

1 minute ago, layzie said:

Quaynor would be the best 1v1 small defender going right now IMO.

Easily.