Farewell Luke Jackson

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

Get onto Viney (Todd) and organise a leak that Norf will use one of their 1st two picks to net LJ if he nominates for the PSD. Then play hardball with Freo to get the picks we want plus another F2 for being [censored].

If Freo fail to provide adequate picks let LJ go through to the PSD. He’ll then sign a contract with us for another 2 years and we can then deal again next year. 

[Ted Lasso 19,279]

4 minutes ago, CYB said:

Get onto Viney (Todd) and organise a leak that Norf will use one of their 1st two picks to net LJ if he nominates for the PSD. Then play hardball with Freo to get the picks we want plus another F2 for being [censored].

If Freo fail to provide adequate picks let LJ go through to the PSD. He’ll then sign a contract with us for another 2 years and we can then deal again next year. 

I don't think we need to, i think North would be insane not to take him, even if he decided to leave after 1 year they're going to turn a pre season draft selection into at least 2 first round picks, plus Jackson is definitely going to make them better and they'd have to back themselves to get him to stay. 

it's a no brainer from Norths perspective to take him 

[mmwd6 220]

9 minutes ago, Dwight Schrute said:

I don't think we need to, i think North would be insane not to take him, even if he decided to leave after 1 year they're going to turn a pre season draft selection into at least 2 first round picks, plus Jackson is definitely going to make them better and they'd have to back themselves to get him to stay. 

it's a no brainer from Norths perspective to take him 

Even if he needs to stay in WA and doesn't play a single game for them, they're still going to be turning a nothing pick into at least one first rounder. 

[Diamond_Jim 12,527]

1 hour ago, mmwd6 said:

Him only signing 1 year after his initial contract was a red flag. Almost all draftees sign 2. 

yes but many of us thought that it was his management saying that his next 2-3 year contract would be higher.

Most players max out contract wise in year 5.

We were badly blindsided

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

17 minutes ago, Dwight Schrute said:

I don't think we need to, i think North would be insane not to take him, even if he decided to leave after 1 year they're going to turn a pre season draft selection into at least 2 first round picks, plus Jackson is definitely going to make them better and they'd have to back themselves to get him to stay. 

it's a no brainer from Norths perspective to take him 

Well the idea would be for Norf to leak that they would before the draft so that LJ is compelled to sign with us and not take his chances in the PSD - Viney can make sure that happens. That way we avoid him thinking he’ll just walk into WC.  

 if WC trade pick 2 with Port there are half a dozen clubs that’ll take LJ anyway before he even gets a look in to WA.

So either Freo or WC trade with us fairly or LJ resigns for another 2.

Edited October 6, 2022 by CYB

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

8 minutes ago, mmwd6 said:

Even if he needs to stay in WA and doesn't play a single game for them, they're still going to be turning a nothing pick into at least one first rounder. 

Viney wouldn’t let that happen. That is screwing us royally.

[Willmoy1947 4,081]

18 minutes ago, Dwight Schrute said:

I don't think we need to, i think North would be insane not to take him, even if he decided to leave after 1 year they're going to turn a pre season draft selection into at least 2 first round picks, plus Jackson is definitely going to make them better and they'd have to back themselves to get him to stay. 

it's a no brainer from Norths perspective to take him 

And there is a very nice on baller that we could do a swap with too and fix up the picks later.

[mmwd6 220]

Only think making me feel slightly better about these negotiations so far is that dogs are getting shafted so much worse. 26 year old who just won their b&f and Brisbane aren't even offering a first for him. 

[deelusions from afar 1,776]

If the Dunkley deal doesn't get done, does he go into the PSD as well?  And if so would North pick him ahead of LJ?  I think they would if they thought he was more chance of staying after one year.
That would bring WCE into the picture.

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

1 minute ago, deelusions from afar said:

If the Dunkley deal doesn't get done, does he go into the PSD as well?  And if so would North pick him ahead of LJ?  I think they would if they thought he was more chance of staying after one year.
That would bring WCE into the picture.

Not if WC deal pick 2 with Port. 

[mmwd6 220]

2 minutes ago, CYB said:

Not if WC deal pick 2 with Port. 

Wc will still have pick 2 in the psd

[dazzledavey36 54,216]

13 minutes ago, CYB said:

Well the idea would be for Norf to leak that they would before the draft so that LJ is compelled to sign with us and not take his chances in the PSD - Viney can make sure that happens. That way we avoid him thinking he’ll just walk into WC.  

 if WC trade pick 2 with Port there are half a dozen clubs that’ll take LJ anyway before he even gets a look in to WA.

So either Freo or WC trade with us fairly or LJ resigns for another 2.

Not sure if you're actually legit or not, but this is honestly the most bizarre thing I've read on this page.

In a big professional sporting organisation and you actually think this kind of weird wacked out scenario would actually exist?

Todd Viney works for, and is fully entrenched with the North Melbourne Football club and absolutely owes no favour whatsoever.

 

[Adam The God 30,112]

17 minutes ago, mmwd6 said:

Only think making me feel slightly better about these negotiations so far is that dogs are getting shafted so much worse. 26 year old who just won their b&f and Brisbane aren't even offering a first for him. 

Well, to be fair to Brisbane, they did offer a first rounder and the Bulldogs knocked it back.

[Supreme_Demon 3,737]

Oh well, if Fremantle aren't going to give us a fair deal we will simply go with what West Coast can offer.

As mischievous as it sounds I would love Todd Viney to cheekily say on trade radio that North Melbourne would gladly take Luke Jackson as pick 1# in the Pre-Season Draft if neither West Coast or Fremantle can work out a deal with Melbourne.

That will definitely upset them both and mean they will actually have to show "good faith" towards Melbourne. Anyway, the countdown clock is ticking....⏰

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

5 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Not sure if you're actually legit or not, but this is honestly the most bizarre thing I've read on this page.

In a big professional sporting organisation and you actually think this kind of weird wacked out scenario would actually exist?

Todd Viney works for, and is fully entrenched with the North Melbourne Football club and absolutely owes no favour whatsoever.

 

I can guarantee you that half the stuff on DL is bizarre but I dont judge.

Maybe I’m being a little immature but we don’t have many options and have little bargaining power. We have to create some leverage. We can say that we want two top 10 picks but where does that even leave us? 

All we need to do is create doubt in LJs management and Freos list management team . Viney doesn’t owe us anything - yes - but NMFC can do us a solid which they could cash in at a later time. Viney could defy help make that happen. 

[mmwd6 220]

9 minutes ago, A F said:

Well, to be fair to Brisbane, they did offer a first rounder and the Bulldogs knocked it back.

Only 15 for a b&f winner who is in his prime is just pure disrespect lol. And then trading it away for a few seconds. They're not even trying. 

[mmwd6 220]

4 minutes ago, Supreme_Demon said:

Oh well, if Fremantle aren't going to give us a fair deal we will simply go with what West Coast can offer.

As mischievous as it sounds I would love Todd Viney to cheekily say on trade radio that North Melbourne would gladly take Luke Jackson as pick 1# in the Pre-Season Draft if neither West Coast or Fremantle can work out a deal with Melbourne.

That will definitely upset them both and mean they will actually have to show "good faith" towards Melbourne. Anyway, the countdown clock is ticking....⏰

Still waiting for WC to make an offer. Lamb said he was going to have meetings with WC a couple days ago and no potential offer has come out of that. Even the proposed pick splits (2 --> 8 and ports F1) don't seem to help us at all. 

[Sir Why You Little 36,955]

Flogmantle have had a full year to get themselves sorted for this. They are a complete and utter disgrace 

[Lucifers Hero 39,508]

7 hours ago, mmwd6 said:

Plenty of outgoing players too. Surely they could've factored this deal in when they were making their other trades? Instead the only thing of note they have from three players leaving is Norths PP2nd

They've done zip to improve their trade hand for Jackson.  And it looks like they never intended to.

Now are holding back on the Lobb and Meeks trades so they don't have more to add to their offer.

Edited October 6, 2022 by Lucifers Hero

[No10 459]

7 hours ago, mmwd6 said:

Still waiting for WC to make an offer. Lamb said he was going to have meetings with WC a couple days ago and no potential offer has come out of that. Even the proposed pick splits (2 --> 8 and ports F1) don't seem to help us at all. 

WC probably right to hold off on any offer.

MFC can eventually call Luke and tell him that Freo aren’t offering his value and he needs to visit WC to at least look around. No player wants to be undervalued by their club.

He goes in, WC take their best shot with their facilities and whatever players impress - tell him they’re offering pick 2.

Luke can still hang out with the Freo guys, go surfing, whatever, but the club that’s showing him proper respect is WC.

That’s how I’d play it anyway

[The Jackson FIX 3,069]

1 hour ago, Lucifers Hero said:

They've done zip to improve their trade hand for Jackson.  And it looks like they never intended to.

Now are holding back on the Lobb and Meeks trades so they don't have more to add to their offer.

Yup. It isn’t an inability to improve their offer, it is an unwillingness. 

[layzie 33,741]

9 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

Well YesitWas could think Bell is an ahole, but now he thinks he’s 10x a bigger ahole

Bell knows everyone thinks he isn't worth a dollar but he feels like a millionaire. 

Edited October 6, 2022 by layzie

[Elwood 3184 1,298]

Kane Cornes has spoken:-

[layzie 33,741]

3 minutes ago, Elwood 3184 said:

Kane Cornes has spoken:-

He's right you know!

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

Go Cornesy, most of Demonland will finally like something you've said.