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6 minutes ago, CYB said:

Just heard on SEN that LJ has advised west Coast he is not walking through to the PSD. Still wants Freo but will not screw over his old club. 

Well if true there goes the threat.

Freo can just do the deal now that I have posted, by clearing Lobb to Dogs and they then have all the needed picks to get the deal done.

The Eagles, if serious, can put pick 2 on the table along with something else like their F1st and it’s done. Eagles need to stop screwing around with their threat of splitting 2 and giving us only one of the two picks they get.

I hope LJ has told the two clubs he will return to us if deal not done.

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    1 minute ago, Redleg said:

    Well if true there goes the threat.

    Freo can just do the deal now that I have posted, by clearing Lobb to Dogs and they then have all the needed picks to get the deal done.

    The Eagles, if serious, can put pick 2 on the table along with something else like their F1st and it’s done. Eagles need to stop screwing around with their threat of splitting 2 and giving us only one of the two picks they get.

    I hope LJ has told the two clubs he will return to us if deal not done.

    Doubtful it comes to that. Can we have LJ, Grundy and Gawn in the same team though? 

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    Looks like Luke is going to do the right by us. Fair play.

    The deal with west coast should be straight forward. Hopefully they don’t start playing silly buggers. Just get it done.

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    2 minutes ago, CYB said:

    Doubtful it comes to that. Can we have LJ, Grundy and Gawn in the same team though? 

    He will be traded. When both clubs are trying to do a deal, they usually find a way.

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    13 hours ago, AmsterdamDeesFan said:

    I’m legitimately amazed how deep people get into trade speculation.

    Even if I blissfully bicycled around Amsterdam all day and hung out in coffee shops getting legally high, I reckon id still log onto demonland every hour in trade week to see if the dees had done any deals :laugh: Doubley so if someone legitimate posted a rumour about a key forward we've been linked to! 

    What's that quote "Wherever you go, there you are"

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    If West Coast had half a bit of serious interest then they would pony up and offer Pick 2 otherwise sod off and let the grown ups deal. 

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    4 minutes ago, BDA said:

    Looks like Luke is going to do the right by us. Fair play.

    The deal with west coast should be straight forward. Hopefully they don’t start playing silly buggers. Just get it done.

    LJ wants to get to Freo and that is part of the problem. We have said we are happy to take the best offer, which ups the pressure on Freo.

    Freo are frigging around as usual.

    Best for us would be Eagles to offer pick 2 plus another pick and we tell Freo to ante up, or we accept Eagles offer. 

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    3 minutes ago, Redleg said:

    LJ wants to get to Freo and that is part of the problem. We have said we are happy to take the best offer, which ups the pressure on Freo.

    Freo are frigging around as usual.

    Best for us would be Eagles to offer pick 2 plus another pick and we tell Freo to ante up, or we accept Eagles offer. 

    WC Pick 2 and their second rounder is about right. 

    freo are hopeless. LJ needs to know we’re not going to be dicked around by them and be prepared to play for West Coast because Peter Bellend is a numptie 

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    If no club in the top 5-8 picks is willing to trade and move down , Freo at least need at bare minimum to give us their pick 13, future 1st round (Freo) and future 2nd rd (NMFC). 

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    7 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

    If no club in the top 5-8 picks is willing to trade and move down , Freo at least need at bare minimum to give us their pick 13, future 1st round (Freo) and future 2nd rd (NMFC). 

    Isn't Freo's problem they are trying to do a host of other trades without any picks. My impression is they are a kid in the candy store with only a penny to spend. 

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    Just now, Robbie57 said:

    Isn't Freo's problem they are trying to do a host of other trades without any picks. My impression is they are a kid in the candy store with only a penny to spend. 

    I love the analogy! So true!

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    1 minute ago, Robbie57 said:

    Isn't Freo's problem they are trying to do a host of other trades without any picks. My impression is they are a kid in the candy store with only a penny to spend. 

    Haha yeah or the guy trying to start a business with no capital of their own!

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    16 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

    If no club in the top 5-8 picks is willing to trade and move down , Freo at least need at bare minimum to give us their pick 13, future 1st round (Freo) and future 2nd rd (NMFC). 

    I don't mind it tbh - We'll undoubtedly get to play the 6th placed team (Freo) twice, so we have a chance to give them 2 losses - it will go someways to helping us get a top 10 pick - I think they are underestimating the impact Mundys absence will have on their midfield, if they're not actively recruiting another midfield gun - and their defence has always been held together by tape, they're one Alex Pearce injury away from becoming a mid-table defence. And keeping Lobb against his will for another year to pair with the most subbed off player in the league, Mr Tabener? Ripe to fall down the ladder. 

    And North 2nd is guaranteed pick 19-20.

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    I genuinely don't understand why West Coast wouldn't just offer pick 2. outside arguably ashcroft, maybe, LJ is a better long term prospect for them than anyone in the draft by some distance. 

    and honestly the moment pick 2 hits the table, Freo are out of the game unless they offer a player, i think West Coast just thought they could sit back and play the PSD card

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    Just now, Dwight Schrute said:

    I genuinely don't understand why West Coast wouldn't just offer pick 2. outside arguably ashcroft, maybe, LJ is a better long term prospect for them than anyone in the draft by some distance. 

    and honestly the moment pick 2 hits the table, Freo are out of the game unless they offer a player, i think West Coast just thought they could sit back and play the PSD card

    Beg to differ.

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    14 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Beg to differ.

    Really? Overrating draft picks are we, mate?

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    Reading the hypothetical trades here I think people are going to be very disappointed with the final outcome - WC 2 and F1st - you cannot be serious!

    Jackson and OUR F1st for 2 and 26 is more likely than that. Maybe we could convert our F1st into a late 1st this year to keep WC in this year's 1st round.

    I know it doesn't sound fair when we're losing a pick 3 who has shown the goods and two teams are competing for his services, but that's the way it is when players want out.

    The Lever trade is the benchmark.

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    21 minutes ago, Dwight Schrute said:

    I genuinely don't understand why West Coast wouldn't just offer pick 2.

    Because they only have to have a better deal than Freo. 

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    24 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Beg to differ.

    Who do you have over Jackson in this draft? I don't think any of the top 5 possess his upside, Ashcroft included. 

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    Would think it is in WC's best interest to play the trading game and make Freo honestly believe they are a chance. Float the prospect of pick 2 just to get the ball rolling.

    I think pick 2 on its own would be acceptable. The Sheezle or The Cadillac would be massive long term talents in red and blue. But I cannot see any club with a top 5 pick trading it away, that's where the true talent is in this draft

    Otherwise I fear Freo will just delay until the last minute and offer us way unders. 13 and their future 1st is pizz poor

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    Just now, A F said:

    Really? Overrating draft picks are we, mate?

    No.

    I think Jackson long term will be a talent. I just don't see him being the generational talent that everyone sees.

    Career so far he's rated below average for hitouts won, hitouts to advantage, clearances and. 

    I think he has poor forward craft and gets lost quiet easily when resting down there which is where he'll spend time when rotating with Sean Darcy.

    Ashcroft, Sheezel, Cadman Wardlaw I see being more natural footballers with more upside to be genuine game breakers.

     

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    2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    No.

    I think Jackson long term will be a talent. I just don't see him being the generational talent that everyone sees.

    Career so far he's rated below average for hitouts won, hitouts to advantage, clearances and. 

    I think he has poor forward craft and gets lost quiet easily when resting down there which is where he'll spend time when rotating with Sean Darcy.

    Ashcroft, Sheezel, Cadman Wardlaw I see being more natural footballers with more upside to be genuine game breakers.

     

    Despite never having seen them play at AFL level and Jackson breaking the game open in a GF? We'll agree to disagree mate.

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    To be fair Dazzle, Dogga has been hampered by a knee injury for most of this year and he is still learning at 20. How many other 200cm big men have got to his level this early in their career? Very, very few

    I think Freo's pitch to play him as a mid next to Darcy in the middle is an amazing possibility for them

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