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2 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Is he going to do a Tim Kelly?

”I’m desperately homesick, all my family and support network are in WA. I can only see myself playing in WA”

”Oh and by the way, I am only willing to play for West Coast”

To be fair, Tim Kelly had a very young family, including kid/s with special needs. He needed to be home in WA

Usually a player nominating a club gets to that club. Usually. There are always some exceptions 

In terms of being a first ruck, I can't understand why Dogga would nominate Freo. He'd be behind Darcy, who is still young.

 
9 minutes ago, Stiff Arm said:

WCE currently have preseason draft pick #2. At $1mill pa Norf might pass on him

Can't see Dogga doing that though

If North pass on Jackson they might as well just fold.

Like seriously they can't be that bad at football!

1 minute ago, Jaded No More said:

If North pass on Jackson they might as well just fold.

Like seriously they can't be that bad at football!

Ha! Agreed, however they are a badly run club.

But would you pay $1mill or more to a guy who doesn't want to be in that state, let alone play for your 18th placed club?

 
6 minutes ago, Stiff Arm said:

To be fair, Tim Kelly had a very young family, including kid/s with special needs. He needed to be home in WA

Usually a player nominating a club gets to that club. Usually. There are always some exceptions 

 

Jackson has not a single goddamn right to nominate a club. Wasn't he a West Coast fan growing up? Wasn't NicNat his hero?

How about he goes to West Coast and learns how to be an overweight ruckman from the most overrated player in the game. He can teach him how to have commentators falling over themselves when he has 3 possessions. And he can enjoy the pressure of living in WA and being a highly paid 'messiah'. That never went wrong for anyone. 
 

He does have the right to nominate a club, and it usually gets done. But there are no guarantees, of course.

If he wants to go and he's OOC, we don't hold many cards. It'd be different if he had a year or years left and wanted to move, eg Lachie Neale or Tom Papley

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5 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Jackson has not a single goddamn right to nominate a club. Wasn't he a West Coast fan growing up? Wasn't NicNat his hero?

How about he goes to West Coast and learns how to be an overweight ruckman from the most overrated player in the game. He can teach him how to have commentators falling over themselves when he has 3 possessions. And he can enjoy the pressure of living in WA and being a highly paid 'messiah'. That never went wrong for anyone. 
 

He grew up a Dockers supporter 

Settle down…

3 minutes ago, Stiff Arm said:

He does have the right to nominate a club, and it usually gets done. But there are no guarantees, of course.

If he wants to go and he's OOC, we don't hold many cards. It'd be different if he had a year or years left and wanted to move, eg Lachie Neale or Tom Papley

We hold the most important card. The right to send him to the draft/PSD if he doesn’t want to stay.

 
3 minutes ago, The Jackson 6 said:

We hold the most important card. The right to send him to the draft/PSD if he doesn’t want to stay.

Not quite. He has the right to nominate for the ND or PSD, for which WCE currently have pick #2

That would get us zero in return

I highly doubt Dogga would want that, but his manager would be stupid not to use that as a bargaining tool

The plot thickens!

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38 minutes ago, KingDingAling said:

That’s why we have the whip hand in this trade situation. Freo, you want Jackson, fine, offer more than WC, or we are sending him there. You don’t like that Luke? Have fun at North. No way North Melbourne let that opportunity pass. They cannot afford to.

 

35 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Correct. North won't finish above West Coast, and they also have all the money in the world, so even if Jackson puts a price on his head they can pay it. They certainly have more cap space than Freo! 

 

Seriously you two..

Do you guys understand that Jackson going into the PSD is the worst possible outcome that could happen to our football club.

We get absolutely zero benefit out of this and get completely shafted.

Whether you like it or not Jackson is out of contract. The moment we he nominates Freo, that's exactly who we have to deal with. Players has more power now days then the actual club especially when out of contract and nominate a set club.

You can pretend to talk tough all you want but at the end of the day, the club (Melbourne) need to find the best possible deal it can to be satisfied. 

Name me one big out of contact player that nominated a club of choice but then was forced to be traded to another because it didn't suit the clubs set requirements. 

It doesn't happen now days.


 

Does anyone have access to the article? Is it anything new?

15 minutes ago, Stiff Arm said:

If he wants to go and he's OOC, we don't hold many cards. 

But we do hold some cards.  He's wanted by both WA clubs to start with.   He might have a preference about which one he goes to(and that is only conjecture at this stage), but if he really wants to go back to Perth and he loves our club as he has consistently said he does, then he'll be open to going to the club that can get the deal done. 

Just now, dazzledavey36 said:

 

Seriously you two..

Do you guys understand that Jackson going into the PSD is the worst possible outcome that could happen to our football club.

We get absolutely zero benefit out of this and get completely shafted.

Whether you like it or not Jackson is out of contract. The moment we he nominates Freo, that's exactly who we have to deal with. Players has more power now days then the actual club especially when out of contract and nominate a set club.

You can pretend to talk tough all you want but at the end of the day, the club (Melbourne) need to find the best possible deal it can to be satisfied. 

Name me one big out of contact player that nominated a club of choice but then was forced to be traded to another because it didn't suit the clubs set requirements. 

It doesn't happen now days.

I am not saying we do it, I am saying that we threaten to do it and tell Jackson that WA is his home, Freo is not his home.

He doesn't get to choose a goddamn club after 3 years in the system where we gave him absolutely everything, including a flag! I do not want us being bent over. I think we need to make it clear that we will facilitate a trade to WA, and will deal with whoever gives us the best deal. If that's West Coast, then tough [censored]. 

He has no right to screw us, and equally to your question, how many young up and coming stars have screwed over their club recently? Very few. Most will want to facilitate a good outcome for the club that gave them so much and invested a lot in them.

Jackson is not leaving on bad terms. He should have no motivation to hurt the club that gave him so much. He can say he wants to get to Freo, but equally understands that the club needs to get back the investment it has made in him and secure a good deal. 

Doubt he wants to play against a [censored] off Jack Viney for the next 5 years. 

27 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Jackson has not a single goddamn right to nominate a club. Wasn't he a West Coast fan growing up? Wasn't NicNat his hero?

How about he goes to West Coast and learns how to be an overweight ruckman from the most overrated player in the game. He can teach him how to have commentators falling over themselves when he has 3 possessions. And he can enjoy the pressure of living in WA and being a highly paid 'messiah'. That never went wrong for anyone. 
 

Haha I think you’ve just reverted back to Jaded again.

23 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

He grew up a Dockers supporter 

Settle down…

Firstly he is on record saying Nic Nat was his favourite player, which is super weird for a Freo fan... but ok.

Secondly that was clearly me trying to make people laugh. Nic Nat is overrated and overweight tho... just saying. 


16 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I wonder if Lloyd Meek will come into calculations?

203cm 106kg ruckman who apparently has shown promises as a ruckman at senior level. Wins big disposal numbers at WAFL level it seems.

I only ask as I have legitimately only watched him once and that was round 1 last year at the G where I thought he held up well against Gawn for a first gamer.

Anyone know much more about him?

Not really, but I'd be hoping one of he or Briggs/Flynn (from GWS) is brought in.   We need someone that's had senior exposure and can handle themselves (all three have shown something).

I know Lobb is likely to leave Freo, but he and Jacko aren't like for like.  Lobb was recruited to play forward and he doesn't like playing ruck.  Jacko is a ruckman/mid.  Meek wouldn't be thrilled about the prospect and would have to consider his options. 

I'll be as disappointed as anyone if he decides to head home but he had no say in coming to our club and it's always a 50/50 proposition when you draft a kid from another state. He's helped us win a premiership and we've taught him a lot in his first two years of AFL football. We picked up Lingers from Fremantle because he wanted to come home. It happens. 

That said, the day he leaves he will be dead to me in a football sense. Much like Hogan. As a Melbourne supporter I'm only interested if you want to represent the oldest football club in the land. 

17 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

I am not saying we do it, I am saying that we threaten to do it and tell Jackson that WA is his home, Freo is not his home.

He doesn't get to choose a goddamn club after 3 years in the system where we gave him absolutely everything, including a flag! I do not want us being bent over. I think we need to make it clear that we will facilitate a trade to WA, and will deal with whoever gives us the best deal. If that's West Coast, then tough [censored]. 

He has no right to screw us, and equally to your question, how many young up and coming stars have screwed over their club recently? Very few. Most will want to facilitate a good outcome for the club that gave them so much and invested a lot in them.

Jackson is not leaving on bad terms. He should have no motivation to hurt the club that gave him so much. He can say he wants to get to Freo, but equally understands that the club needs to get back the investment it has made in him and secure a good deal. 

Doubt he wants to play against a [censored] off Jack Viney for the next 5 years. 

He's not screwing us at all Jaded.

He's out of contract and has the right to request a trade to his club of choice.

The moment he nominates Freo we'll facilitate the best deal for the club. You're forgetting we have Jason Taylor and Tim Lamb who have facilitated some of the best deals going sound in years.

 

22 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

I am not saying we do it, I am saying that we threaten to do it and tell Jackson that WA is his home, Freo is not his home.

He doesn't get to choose a goddamn club after 3 years in the system where we gave him absolutely everything, including a flag! I do not want us being bent over. I think we need to make it clear that we will facilitate a trade to WA, and will deal with whoever gives us the best deal. If that's West Coast, then tough [censored]. 

He has no right to screw us, and equally to your question, how many young up and coming stars have screwed over their club recently? Very few. Most will want to facilitate a good outcome for the club that gave them so much and invested a lot in them.

Jackson is not leaving on bad terms. He should have no motivation to hurt the club that gave him so much. He can say he wants to get to Freo, but equally understands that the club needs to get back the investment it has made in him and secure a good deal. 

Doubt he wants to play against a [censored] off Jack Viney for the next 5 years. 

I think it will all get done professionally no ifs or buts, but if a certain CEO of Freo starts to get clever there will be a little reminder that the club down the road hold all the picks that we desire.

So pay up or move on.

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

He's not screwing us at all Jaded.

He's out of contract and has the right to request a trade to his club of choice.

The moment he nominates Freo we'll facilitate the best deal for the club. You're forgetting we have Jason Taylor and Tim Lamb who have facilitated some of the best deals going sound in years.

 

That's all very well but it's pretty unsettling for your Club going into Finals with high expectations of being able to field a team full of goers.The relationship is quid pro quo, not one way and not meant to disrupt a club on the verge of relevance for the next ten years


6 minutes ago, willmoy said:

That's all very well but it's pretty unsettling for your Club going into Finals with high expectations of being able to field a team full of goers.The relationship is quid pro quo, not one way and not meant to disrupt a club on the verge of relevance for the next ten years

Pro is the word...'willmoy'.

A professional sportsperson will give their all in the contest at hand.

I would be surprised if it has any effect on his or the teams performance.

Didn’t have a disposal in the second half last night. Million dollar players don't go an entire half without touching the ball when the whips are cracking.

Also, those saying the media circus doesn’t effect the players are wrong. There was a post on AFL Instagram account recently about Jackson, and Jake Bowey commented on it asking him to stay. If his team mates are publicly responding to that sort of stuff begging him to stay, then they no longer trust him.

Can’t be a successful team without buy in and trust.

 
40 minutes ago, grazman said:

But we do hold some cards.  He's wanted by both WA clubs to start with.   He might have a preference about which one he goes to(and that is only conjecture at this stage), but if he really wants to go back to Perth and he loves our club as he has consistently said he does, then he'll be open to going to the club that can get the deal done. 

Sorry graz but about the best you are holding under that scenario is a 2 3 off suit

4 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Sorry graz but about the best you are holding under that scenario is a 2 3 off suit

maybe

But considering the angst on this site over the Lever and May deals I think there's a lot of unrealistic expectations of what's fair when it comes to trades.   Jackson is a best 22 blue sky prospect being offered lucrative long term contract by multiple clubs.  The trades will have to be commensurate with that.  The footy industry is pragmatic - there's no value in trying to low ball the club because what goes around comes around in footy. 


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