Proved them wrong

[DeesignerAU 383]

What articles have you read or vision have you seen from so-called experts that makes your blood boil?

There was an article by Garry Buckenara about the status of Melbourne's list not more than 12 months ago which makes me fume.

Melbourne is a team full of B-graders with only one player in the elite category, according to list guru Gary Buckenara. He reveals what the Demons must do to improve their squad in his expert analysis.

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On 9/29/2021 at 7:59 AM, DeesignerAU said:

What articles have you read or vision have you seen from so-called experts that makes your blood boil?

Garry Buckenara 

The mere mention of his name makes me sick. 

[Vipercrunch 2,827]

I wonder if he's had the strength of character to admit he was wrong.

[KingSlayer33 170]

pretty much everything he wrote has been proved completely wrong within 12 months. Well except for saying Big Benny Brown would be a good fit.

[Dee-licious 1,949]

He was right with this "to find players that bring those four non-negotiable traits – skills, footy smarts, competitiveness and character." We didn't need to find them, we already had a list full of them :) 

[Webber 10,465]

14 minutes ago, DeesignerAU said:

What articles have you read or vision have you seen from so-called experts that makes your blood boil?

There was an article by Garry Buckenara about the status of Melbourne's list not more than 12 months ago which makes me fume.

You can read the article here - https://www.myheartbeatstrue.com/beat-the-paywall/from-the-archive-recruiting-guru-gary-buckenara-analyses-melbourne-demons-list-after-the-2020-afl-season/

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Not just fabulously wrong, but so sure he was right. 
I’d also love to hear how other perennial ‘Dees haters’ feel about this premiership - Leigh Matthews, Mark Maclure, Mick Malthouse immediately spring to mind. 
And how much I’d love a compilation of David King’s ignorant mis-readings of our qualities and our chances through the year. Mr. Weekly Reactionary himself. 

[Webber 10,465]

6 minutes ago, Dee-licious said:

We didn't need to find them, we already had a list full of them

Which he determined were just a bunch of ‘nice guys’ - prognostication tainted by an old and ignorant narrative. 

[rpfc 28,390]

That article is bad.

15m penalty!

[Queanbeyan Demon 6,843]

3 minutes ago, rpfc said:

That article is bad.

15m penalty!

Deliberate. 50 metres.

[Queanbeyan Demon 6,843]

Salad dodger Brian Taylor hates us. You could hear the despise in his voice all year. Not sure he's come to terms with the win yet. (Either have I to be fair.)

[AllMyTeamsAreWank 564]

I've been trying to find a similar article that's headline was "what do Melbourne stand for?" Pretty sure it was John Ralph who wrote it, but haven't been able to track it down. Was written after the dogs beat us in preseason and we had a huge amount of players out for that game. 

Edited September 28, 2021 by AllMyTeamsAreWank

[durango 2,007]

It proves what I always said about Buckenara  that he would not know what a good team looks like unless it was Hawthorn.

He slamed players like Petracca Oliver May Lever Salem as B grade when both Oliver and Petracca had been All Australians.

He under estimated Tom Mac and Fritsch being forwards and failed to see the rise of Jackson Pickett and Rivers from the 1st year.

[Uncle Fester 2,848]

‘They have too many middle-of-the-road players who are role players but they won’t win you a premiership‘
Anyone that needs to be called a list guru (cough cough Wallace) is anything but

[dazzledavey36 54,869]

44 minutes ago, DeesignerAU said:

What articles have you read or vision have you seen from so-called experts that makes your blood boil?

There was an article by Garry Buckenara about the status of Melbourne's list not more than 12 months ago which makes me fume.

You can read the article here - https://www.myheartbeatstrue.com/beat-the-paywall/from-the-archive-recruiting-guru-gary-buckenara-analyses-melbourne-demons-list-after-the-2020-afl-season/

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What the [censored] did I just read? 🤮

[Lord Nev 13,512]

Meh. Plenty of articles said we would win the flag in 2019. Where's the thread for proving them wrong?

We all make comments and predictions that end up being way off, sadly we don't get paid for it here, but why not just enjoy the good vibes and the amazing team we now have rather than go digging up some space filler articles for hindsight bashing?

 

[Only Rigoni 92]

Hindsight & everything, but 12 months on he looks like a right dill. You could make a sound argument that we have the top 3 players in the entire competition (Gawn, Tracc, Oliver), 2 of whom are apparently 'B-graders'.

[durango 2,007]

His analysis did not take into account injuries and players losing form at the very worst times in a season.

If you are going to do a critic then look at all aspects not tunnel vision.

 

[radar 1,865]

Only concentrating on the positives and good vibes. 
After 57 years, I didn’t “believe” until we were 62 points up

[John Crow Batty 8,863]

I read it as he was mis-interpreting his crystal ball. They key difference between this season and the past few is that now we are playing as a team and not a bunch of individuals that’s been a regular Melbourne failing. The talent was always there. Now everyone plays for each other and reaping the rewards. He fails to note that a champion team always beats a team of champions hands down. Being from Hawthorns golden era he should know better.

Edited September 28, 2021 by John Crow Batty

[demonscranbourne 21]

Ah Buckenara. The man that got them into a losing grand final. 
Always thought we was a wanka

[DeesignerAU 383]

10 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Meh. Plenty of articles said we would win the flag in 2019. Where's the thread for proving them wrong?

We all make comments and predictions that end up being way off, sadly we don't get paid for it here, but why not just enjoy the good vibes and the amazing team we now have rather than go digging up some space filler articles for hindsight bashing?

 

Some would read the article as how much we were able to turn the club around in 12 months. Most importantly don't let it trigger you Lord Nev

[dee-tox 4,835]

Buckenara's columns and list analysis are ghost written by Hun.

They are made deliberately provocative so punters like us can disagree with them. 

 

 

[Webber 10,465]

11 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Meh. Plenty of articles said we would win the flag in 2019. Where's the thread for proving them wrong?

We all make comments and predictions that end up being way off, sadly we don't get paid for it here, but why not just enjoy the good vibes and the amazing team we now have rather than go digging up some space filler articles for hindsight bashing?

 

This is part of the ‘good vibes’, Lord Nev. Processing the reasons we’ve stuck fat with this club involves looking at the opinions and analysis of those who have said we shouldn’t, or had no reason to. It’s an essential part of the reward for loyalty and belief - another jigsaw piece in the now complete picture of our investment and faith. 

[John Crow Batty 8,863]

1 minute ago, dee-tox said:

Buckenara's columns and list analysis are ghost written by Hun.

They are made deliberately provocative so punters like us can disagree with them. 

 

 

So true. I used to work for the paper before the Murdoch days. The philosophy is to always [censored] the horse from both ends to get it to move. Always try to get readers to stridently agree or disagree. Giving the rational middle road opinion  doesn’t work. 

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,754]

1 hour ago, Webber said:

Not just fabulously wrong, but so sure he was right. 
I’d also love to hear how other perennial ‘Dees haters’ feel about this premiership - Leigh Matthews, Mark Maclure, Mick Malthouse immediately spring to mind. 
And how much I’d love a compilation of David King’s ignorant mis-readings of our qualities and our chances through the year. Mr. Weekly Reactionary himself. 

David King would have got it right at some stage during the year. I may be mistaken (not a word you'll hear from many working in the media, by the way) but King seems to adopt positive and negative views of every team throughout the year, depending on what snippet of Champion Data he is looking at in isolation. His approach is consistent with what a former boss of mine used to say - set your targets after you've seen where the arrows have landed.