POSTGAME: GRAND FINAL vs Western Bulldogs

[Dante 2,704]

I've watched the PF a half a dozen times and with 6.15 to go Fritter is being chased by two Cats defenders and it appears to me that he gets the ball and throws it back on to the feet of the cats defenders and in doing so it propels the ball forward to Kozzi who kicks a goal.

Has anyone else noticed this?

[Winners at last 5,150]

8 minutes ago, Dante said:

I've watched the PF a half a dozen times and with 6.15 to go Fritter is being chased by two Cats defenders and it appears to me that he gets the ball and throws it back on to the feet of the cats defenders and in doing so it propels the ball forward to Kozzi who kicks a goal.

Has anyone else noticed this?

I thought he (Fritta) just kinda fumbled.

[Gawndy the Great 9,009]

Finally picked up a blue-ray edition of the 2021 Grand Final. After at least 4 weeks of not watching the grand final, it was so refreshing to watch it again. My better half was amazed that after so long that a yelp (or two) and the odd fist pump were on display. 

I haven't bothered to trawl through the pages of discussion since i last visited this topic and I'm sure it has been discussed to death, but wanted to share a few things that were apparent to me this time around.

1. Alex Neal-Bullen had such an impressive game. The big-time players have all been well documented (Trac, Oliver, Brayshaw, Fritsch, Salem and LJ) But ANB had 25+ disposals and just seemed to be everywhere, with his gut running, score involvements and defensive pressure. I for one commend him as i would have been leading the pack to have him dispelled a few years back. Happy to swallow my pride on that one and am so glad he is playing for us. Most happy with his decision making inside 50. 

2. Umpiring. Whilst i will caveat this with the fact that we had the upper hand in umpiring decisions, and that in general the umpiring was good, there were several decisions (or non-decisions) that, in the moment could have had a major impact on the game. The four that were most apparent and during the most critical points in the game that I noticed were:

a. Gawns point (looked a goal)

b. Hunters ducking free (resulted in a Doggies Goal)

c. Harmes & Kozzy high contact inside 20m in front of our goal - non decision 

d. Johannison push in the back on Doggies goal line (resulted in Doggies goal)

3. First time i watched the post game celebrations with attention to detail and can confirm Basil is an absolute a-grade [censored]. 

Edited November 29, 2021 by CYB

[leave it to deever 17,446]

12 minutes ago, CYB said:

Alex Neal-Bullen

Agreed he has stepped up to another level all year. I used to wonder why he got games last year at times and cringed at his kicking on goal.

Now a fully fledged premiership player and gives 100 percent. His passion for the club is evident.

As for the umpiring I think we had a good run in the first half.

Ironically in the 3rd q when we turned things around I thought the umps were below average.

Other than that I didn't really notice them which in a granny is a good thing.

Enjoy your blue ray.

[Demon17 5,047]

30 minutes ago, CYB said:

Finally picked up a blue-ray edition of the 2021 Grand Final. After at least 4 weeks of not watching the grand final, it was so refreshing to watch it again. My better half was amazed that after so long that a yelp (or two) and the odd fist pump were on display. 

I haven't bothered to trawl through the pages of discussion since i last visited this topic and I'm sure it has been discussed to death, but wanted to share a few things that were apparent to me this time around.

1. Alex Neal-Bullen had such an impressive game. The big-time players have all been well documented (Trac, Oliver, Brayshaw, Fritsch, Salem and LJ) But ANB had 25+ disposals and just seemed to be everywhere, with his gut running, score involvements and defensive pressure. I for one commend him as i would have been leading the pack to have him dispelled a few years back. Happy to swallow my pride on that one and am so glad he is playing for us. Most happy with his decision making inside 50. 

2. Umpiring. Whilst i will caveat this with the fact that we had the upper hand in umpiring decisions, and that in general the umpiring was good, there were several decisions (or non-decisions) that, in the moment could have had a major impact on the game. The four that were most apparent and during the most critical points in the game that I noticed were:

a. Gawns point (looked a goal)

b. Hunters ducking free (resulted in a Doggies Goal)

c. Harmes & Kozzy high contact inside 20m in front of our goal - non decision 

d. Johannison push in the back on Doggies goal line (resulted in Doggies goal)

3. First time i watched the post game celebrations with attention to detail and can confirm Basil is an absolute a-grade [censored]. 

He had ONE job to do well.

Canberra would suit him.

 

[Fork 'em 6,938]

18 hours ago, Winners at last said:

I thought he (Fritta) just kinda fumbled.

He kinda tripped over it and accidentally toe poked it out to Kozzie.
Luck's a fortune at times.

[jnrmac 19,890]

5 hours ago, CYB said:

Finally picked up a blue-ray edition of the 2021 Grand Final. After at least 4 weeks of not watching the grand final, it was so refreshing to watch it again. My better half was amazed that after so long that a yelp (or two) and the odd fist pump were on display. 

I haven't bothered to trawl through the pages of discussion since i last visited this topic and I'm sure it has been discussed to death, but wanted to share a few things that were apparent to me this time around.

1. Alex Neal-Bullen had such an impressive game. The big-time players have all been well documented (Trac, Oliver, Brayshaw, Fritsch, Salem and LJ) But ANB had 25+ disposals and just seemed to be everywhere, with his gut running, score involvements and defensive pressure. I for one commend him as i would have been leading the pack to have him dispelled a few years back. Happy to swallow my pride on that one and am so glad he is playing for us. Most happy with his decision making inside 50. 

2. Umpiring. Whilst i will caveat this with the fact that we had the upper hand in umpiring decisions, and that in general the umpiring was good, there were several decisions (or non-decisions) that, in the moment could have had a major impact on the game. The four that were most apparent and during the most critical points in the game that I noticed were:

a. Gawns point (looked a goal)

b. Hunters ducking free (resulted in a Doggies Goal)

c. Harmes & Kozzy high contact inside 20m in front of our goal - non decision 

d. Johannison push in the back on Doggies goal line (resulted in Doggies goal)

3. First time i watched the post game celebrations with attention to detail and can confirm Basil is an absolute a-grade [censored]. 

There were few dodgy frees in the middle to Libba including in the first 30 seconds. Viney gave two away that were not frees. Fritta was dragged to the ground in the goal square by EWood when he didn't have the ball, Plenty to get annoyed about

And the JJ one on the goal line was not a free because he marked it. Had he not marked it it would have been a free, Happens all the time.

Edited November 29, 2021 by jnrmac

[tiers 2,804]

5 hours ago, CYB said:

1. Alex Neal-Bullen had such an impressive game. The big-time players have all been well documented (Trac, Oliver, Brayshaw, Fritsch, Salem and LJ) But ANB had 25+ disposals and just seemed to be everywhere, with his gut running, score involvements and defensive pressure. I for one commend him as i would have been leading the pack to have him dispelled a few years back. Happy to swallow my pride on that one and am so glad he is playing for us. Most happy with his decision making inside 50. 

ANB has been playing the same game for many years but has not been appreciated by DLanders until now. Lucky for him and for us the FD did understand and appreciate.

[Cassiew 1,883]

Another pointless fact: bulldogs are the 5th team we’ve beaten in the grand final

[radar 1,865]

49 minutes ago, Cassiew said:

Another pointless fact: bulldogs are the 5th team we’ve beaten in the grand final

Good get

what are the others? 
Collingwood, Essendon, Richmond and 1 more

Edited November 29, 2021 by radar

[Allus Monk 568]

13 minutes ago, radar said:

Good get

what are the others? 
Collingwood, Essendon, Richmond and 1 more

Fitzroy for our first in 1900. I’m surprised we’ve beaten Essendon four times, one of course after the draw where they kicked 7.27 to our 10.9. 

[Gawndy the Great 9,009]

6 hours ago, jnrmac said:

There were few dodgy frees in the middle to Libba including in the first 30 seconds. Viney gave two away that were not frees. Fritta was dragged to the ground in the goal square by EWood when he didn't have the ball, Plenty to get annoyed about

And the JJ one on the goal line was not a free because he marked it. Had he not marked it it would have been a free, Happens all the time.

Even with the push in the back there is a line. And I think the JJ one was a definite one. But having a rule such as this open to interpretation is why we will have these issues forever and a day. 

[leave it to deever 17,446]

17 hours ago, jnrmac said:

There were few dodgy frees in the middle to Libba including in the first 30 seconds. Viney gave two away that were not frees. Fritta was dragged to the ground in the goal square by EWood when he didn't have the ball, Plenty to get annoyed about

And the JJ one on the goal line was not a free because he marked it. Had he not marked it it would have been a free, Happens all the time.

Petty taken high a couple of times but were probably softies. The two against Viney were defianately not there. Jack did well not to lose it.

[Kozzie4PM 765]

16 hours ago, Cassiew said:

Another pointless fact: bulldogs are the 5th team we’ve beaten in the grand final

That's not a pointless fact! It's connected to the fact that we've beaten Collingwood and Essendon in 10 Grand Finals which is a very satisfactory state of affairs!

We have a great record in grannies - 13 wins, 1 draw and 5 losses.

6 wins over Collingwood, 4 over Essendon, 1 each over dogs, Fitzroy and Richmond.

2 losses to Essendon, 1 each to Collingwood, dogs and Hawthorn.

[Dante 2,704]

When does next season start?

Whenever it is, I wish it were sooner.

 

[Cassiew 1,883]

I’d still like to play some different teams in our next grand finals. Just for the hey of it

[leave it to deever 17,446]

15 minutes ago, Cassiew said:

I’d still like to play some different teams in our next grand finals. Just for the hey of it

Maybe Geelong for sh1ts and giggles.

[low flying Robbo 979]

On 11/29/2021 at 4:40 PM, jnrmac said:

There were few dodgy frees in the middle to Libba including in the first 30 seconds. Viney gave two away that were not frees. Fritta was dragged to the ground in the goal square by EWood when he didn't have the ball, Plenty to get annoyed about

And the JJ one on the goal line was not a free because he marked it. Had he not marked it it would have been a free, Happens all the time.

It's called the "Spectacular Play" Rule... 

[Cassiew 1,883]

20 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

Maybe Geelong for sh1ts and giggles.

And maybe in our alternative gurnsey just for something different 

[Cracker Nackers 115]

For Melbourne to be fully Melbourne again, we need to play the Great Enemy in a Grand Final and beat the gizzards out of them.

[Cassiew 1,883]

There were complaints from Bulldogs fans that some of our handballs weren't punched. After reviewing it l do see that some were questionable. But the fact is they had some that should have been reviewed that weren’t and they fail to even mention that.

There was that goal the Fritch kicked that I thought was out of bounds on the full, but was thrown in. Having said that, I still think they got away with more than we did

[jnrmac 19,890]

On 12/1/2021 at 7:14 AM, low flying Robbo said:

It's called the "Spectacular Play" Rule... 

Probably the Warwick Capper rule. He used to molest players on the way up and then take great grabs

TBH I think we would all like that to stay in our game. It is absolutely unique

 

[jnrmac 19,890]

On 11/29/2021 at 5:12 PM, tiers said:

ANB has been playing the same game for many years but has not been appreciated by DLanders until now. Lucky for him and for us the FD did understand and appreciate.

A bit loose with the truth there tiers.

He was shopped around last year along with TMac. Thats how much he was appreciated.

He has always had great endurance but has been very hot and cold as a player. This year he absolutely turned it on and was one of our best players. Won't surprise me to see him finish highly in the Bluey.

[Engorged Onion 10,120]

16 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

A bit loose with the truth there tiers.

He was shopped around last year along with TMac. Thats how much he was appreciated.

He has always had great endurance but has been very hot and cold as a player. This year he absolutely turned it on and was one of our best players. Won't surprise me to see him finish highly in the Bluey.

Hotness was exemplified by kicking truly a few times from the left pocket 40 out throughout the season... just didn't quite replicate in the GF

Edited December 2, 2021 by Engorged Onion

[leave it to deever 17,446]

On 12/1/2021 at 6:25 PM, Cracker Nackers said:

For Melbourne to be fully Melbourne again, we need to play the Great Enemy in a Grand Final and beat the gizzards out of them.

I'm sure you mean Cwood but I think Hawks would go close.