If Cerra nominates us, Freo will need to play ball. Very few players don’t get to their club of choice these days. 
 

There’s a lot to be said (particularly as one faces ones own mortality) to live in the moment. Don’t look back and don’t look forward, well not too far. Otherwise, we spoil the moment. 

We have a great team, existing stars and upcoming ones, we have a club that has regained its pride and credibility, and we are  looking forward to finals footy. Personally, I’m not thinking of the Granny only this Friday.

I certainly can’t think of trades at this moment. We have a game of footy to play. There is nothing else. 

Don't do it Cerra.........

 

9 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Don't do it Cerra.........

 

Oh boy… whoever Cerra manager is, he would be negligent in his responsibility to allow Cerra going there.

8 minutes ago, CYB said:

Oh boy… whoever Cerra manager is, he would be negligent in his responsibility to allow Cerra going there.

Depends if he's only after a pay check and security or something more...

10 minutes ago, CYB said:

Oh boy… whoever Cerra manager is, he would be negligent in his responsibility to allow Cerra going there.

Basket case. 

Cerra - take $100k - 200k less a year to come to the Dees, and be a multiple premiership player.......will make up the dollars via being part of a dynasty. 
 

Freo asking for Jackson in return apparently. 

Yes Cerra is good and yes he would add to our depth and mids. 

But he's not worth losing Jackson. 

I think Jackson might end up going back to WA (just a gut feel). 

Melbourne have apparently impressed him (which is great) and perhaps we might get him in 3-4 years . 

Isn't a game changer and wouldn't be sad if we missed out on him.  

You all realise Freo don't actually expect Jackson in return yeah?

Just now, adonski said:

You all realise Freo don't actually expect Jackson in return yeah?

This

just laying out field targets

We’ve offered them 16 bagels 

now let the real dealing commence

I'm trying to get excited, but if I'm completely honest, I know less about Cerra than I do about any of our Casey listed players.

This was Mahoneys forte. Will be interesting to see what eventuates, but it is telling that Cerra's manager hasn't announced his preferred club yet. It reeks of waiting for us to be finished before calling our name out on T.V.

13 minutes ago, WA Demon Boy said:

Freo asking for Jackson in return apparently. 

Yes Cerra is good and yes he would add to our depth and mids. 

But he's not worth losing Jackson. 

I think Jackson might end up going back to WA (just a gut feel). 

Melbourne have apparently impressed him (which is great) and perhaps we might get him in 3-4 years . 

Isn't a game changer and wouldn't be sad if we missed out on him.  

Hypothetically, asking for a mate- what if they offered young Brayshaw and Cerra for Jackson.. 😂

33 minutes ago, CYB said:

Hypothetically, asking for a mate- what if they offered young Brayshaw and Cerra for Jackson.. 😂

Hypothetically, We'd want that Rory Lobb ruck/fwd thrown in there too (Does he still play there?)

50 minutes ago, adonski said:

You all realise Freo don't actually expect Jackson in return yeah?

You realise Jackson could choose to go back to WA yeah? And that trades aren't always swap a player directly for another player?

Edited September 8, 20213 yr by Lord Nev

5 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

You realise Jackson could choose to go back to WA yeah? And that trades aren't always swap a player directly for another player?

Nev, the MFC would hold Jackson to his contract - or if he still insisted to be traded, have him assassinated, rather than trading him to Freo 

Edited September 8, 20213 yr by adonski

1 minute ago, adonski said:

Nev, the MFC would hold Jackson to his contract - or if he still insisted to be traded, have him assassinated, rather than trading him to Freo 

Haha I hope so! Never seen anything like him.

Just think, worst case scenario, IF Jackson wanted back to WA and IF that was part of a deal for Cerra, I don't think it would be just a straight swap. There would be a sweetener coming our way, and thinking back to how Mahoney used to future-plan, particularly when you think of the Hogan situation, the conspiracy side of my brain would be a bit dubious about our draft hand this year as it stands.

Cerra is a good player but we don’t ‘need’ him and we shouldn’t (and we won’t) destabilise the culture by forcing out players who want to stay and are in the 18. If that’s what it takes to get him then we just won’t get him.

Jordon, Sparrow, and Rivers (IMO, he would be an excellent mid) will be pushing that core midfield group next year and that is enough established young talent for us.

Petracca, Oliver, Viney, and Harmes are a tough, balanced core group that is amazingly talented but also has the ability to disrupt other midfield groups (Viney) or run with someone effectively (Harmes). And they are 25, 24, 27, and 25…

And to those that would want to ‘upgrade’ Jack or James - there is a basketball idiom that applies; “there’s only one Sherrin.” We don’t need 4 players hunting the footy, we need our stars to be lifted higher than they can go by themselves through the blocking, and movement, and defensive mindset of the rest of that group.

1 minute ago, rpfc said:

Cerra is a good player but we don’t ‘need’ him and we shouldn’t (and we won’t) destabilise the culture by forcing out players who want to stay and are in the 18. If that’s what it takes to get him then we just won’t get him.

Jordon, Sparrow, and Rivers (IMO, he would be an excellent mid) will be pushing that core midfield group next year and that is enough established young talent for us.

Petracca, Oliver, Viney, and Harmes are a tough, balanced core group that is amazingly talented but also has the ability to disrupt other midfield groups (Viney) or run with someone effectively (Harmes). And they are 25, 24, 27, and 25…

And to those that would want to ‘upgrade’ Jack or James - there is a basketball idiom that applies; “there’s only one Sherrin.” We don’t need 4 players hunting the footy, we need our stars to be lifted higher than they can go by themselves through the blocking, and movement, and defensive mindset of the rest of that group.

Yeah Rivers is the one. Alas no direct replacement unless we grabbed Maynard. 

"At the end of the day some you win some you don't but I'm glad that I'm here in the premiership window oh we'll all smile if we bring the cup home ...with A. Cerra A Cerra A Cerra."

(Apologies, Justice Crew).

Edited September 8, 20213 yr by bush demon
error in lyrics

2 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Cerra is a good player but we don’t ‘need’ him and we shouldn’t (and we won’t) destabilise the culture by forcing out players who want to stay and are in the 18. If that’s what it takes to get him then we just won’t get him.

Jordon, Sparrow, and Rivers (IMO, he would be an excellent mid) will be pushing that core midfield group next year and that is enough established young talent for us.

Petracca, Oliver, Viney, and Harmes are a tough, balanced core group that is amazingly talented but also has the ability to disrupt other midfield groups (Viney) or run with someone effectively (Harmes). And they are 25, 24, 27, and 25…

And to those that would want to ‘upgrade’ Jack or James - there is a basketball idiom that applies; “there’s only one Sherrin.” We don’t need 4 players hunting the footy, we need our stars to be lifted higher than they can go by themselves through the blocking, and movement, and defensive mindset of the rest of that group.

Few questions, not just to you, but I've noticed a few trains of thought appearing regularly regarding this potential trade.

- Why wouldn't we look to improve? Adding a talented young player like Cerra onto the wing would improve our side IMO.

- Who said anyone is being 'forced out'? Who's to say a player/s won't request a trade?

- Read around the traps Cerra is best mates with Langdon and also mates with Trac. By all reports he's an upstanding young man. Why would he 'destabilise' our culture? Did it have that effect when we traded Hogan for May? Watts for Fritsch?

The Tigers won a flag then added in Tom Lynch and went on to win two more. They didn't just back themselves to 'lift higher', they actively looked to improve.

I'm not saying sell the farm to get Cerra, and I love our positive vibe atm, but let's not think we're an automatic dynasty before we're even in a grand final.

 

2 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Few questions, not just to you, but I've noticed a few trains of thought appearing regularly regarding this potential trade.

- Why wouldn't we look to improve? Adding a talented young player like Cerra onto the wing would improve our side IMO.

- Who said anyone is being 'forced out'? Who's to say a player/s won't request a trade?

- Read around the traps Cerra is best mates with Langdon and also mates with Trac. By all reports he's an upstanding young man. Why would he 'destabilise' our culture? Did it have that effect when we traded Hogan for May? Watts for Fritsch?

The Tigers won a flag then added in Tom Lynch and went on to win two more. They didn't just back themselves to 'lift higher', they actively looked to improve.

I'm not saying sell the farm to get Cerra, and I love our positive vibe atm, but let's not think we're an automatic dynasty before we're even in a grand final.

 

Right. Don't care if we win by 10 goals for the next two games, class in the middle still a direct need regardless.

12 minutes ago, adonski said:

Right. Don't care if we win by 10 goals for the next two games, class in the middle still a direct need regardless.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not tbh...

My point is, good teams are always looking to improve.

Edit - Just saw you 'liked' my post, so probs not sarcasm haha! We need a font for that...

Edited September 8, 20213 yr by Lord Nev

3 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not tbh...

My point is, good teams are always looking to improve.

Edit - Just saw you 'liked' my post, so probs not sarcasm haha! We need a font for that...

Hahaha. You know as I finished writing that I thought [censored] it comes off a bit like that doesn’t it.

But no, I mean it. Still missing another balanced mid, and I’ll still feel that way even if we win the flag.

58 minutes ago, adonski said:

Hahaha. You know as I finished writing that I thought [censored] it comes off a bit like that doesn’t it.

But no, I mean it. Still missing another balanced mid, and I’ll still feel that way even if we win the flag.

No need to improve, this years grand final winner gets the 2021 and 2022 premiership, with a years bye.

Edited September 8, 20213 yr by John Demonic

4 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Few questions, not just to you, but I've noticed a few trains of thought appearing regularly regarding this potential trade.

- Why wouldn't we look to improve? Adding a talented young player like Cerra onto the wing would improve our side IMO.

- Who said anyone is being 'forced out'? Who's to say a player/s won't request a trade?

- Read around the traps Cerra is best mates with Langdon and also mates with Trac. By all reports he's an upstanding young man. Why would he 'destabilise' our culture? Did it have that effect when we traded Hogan for May? Watts for Fritsch?

The Tigers won a flag then added in Tom Lynch and went on to win two more. They didn't just back themselves to 'lift higher', they actively looked to improve.

I'm not saying sell the farm to get Cerra, and I love our positive vibe atm, but let's not think we're an automatic dynasty before we're even in a grand final.

 

Firstly given we have no picks and he is a highly rated young player who was also a high draft pick, we would need to trade something to get something. Who are you willing to trade out which is of roughly equal value. Rivers and picks, Jackson, Pickett? That’s the sort of trade that you would need to do.

2nd when tigers went after Lynch he was a free agent all he cost was money. A 2nd key fwd was a need of tigers as they only had Riewoldt.

3rd our biggest issue all year has been our fwd line if we are going to trade capital for anything it’s got to be another key fwd. Tmac and Ben Brown aren’t a dynasty 1/2.

4th our mid and backs are settled and the equal to best of any team going round. In the mid we already have the best top end talent in trac and Oliver and Gawn, solid experienced roll players in Viney, Harmes and Langdon and Brayshaw. Up coming best 22 talent in Sparrow and Jordan and who ever else we draft. Our balance right now is basically perfect for the next 4-5 years.

In summary Cerra would only marginally add to the mid mix, would cost us talent else where both now and going fwd if we can’t resign players due to cap space and prevent us filling real holes in our list. Just look at pies or swans now, do you want to see the team pulled apart just as it starts. We could easily be them in a year or 2 if we play it wrong.

Edited September 8, 20213 yr by Garbo

Gonna be interesting to see how we approach this. From what we know there are no impending departures. 

Those fringe players that may want to go (Chandler, Baker, Lockhart, Bedford, Smith, etc.) are not worth much.

Can't see Freo wantng to deal in the futures market? 

What are we missing?