Welcome to Demonland: Andy Moniz-Wakefield

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1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Yes definitely more of an outside midfield runner. 
Like to see him brought in as a Rookie. 

Then get him into the Brayshaw household as another young Demon boarder.  Even if he didn’t make it, the Brayshaws produce and develop fine young men and footballers. 

They seem quality people.

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Doubtful pick now that Woewodin is a father-son with a certain spot on our main list.

[Turner 1,514]

38 minutes ago, Mono said:

Doubtful pick now that Woewodin is a father-son with a certain spot on our main list.

i believe there's another list deadline which is for rookie only nominations? what the crows did last year with luke edwards before the eagles stepped in

[IvanBartul13 2,564]

3 hours ago, Turner said:

i believe there's another list deadline which is for rookie only nominations? what the crows did last year with luke edwards before the eagles stepped in

There is no rookie nominating before the National draft.  Clubs can list their nominated father-son or NGA players as rookies for free after the National Draft and before the rookie draft if obviously they are passed over initially.   Adelaide declined to nominate Luke Edwards as a father-son altogether so he was fair game last year in the ND.  Gold Coast were able to Prelist their Zone selections as Rookies last year.

Edited October 29, 2021 by IvanBartul13

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Cat B will be the aim.

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6 hours ago, IvanBartul13 said:

There is no rookie nominating before the National draft.  Clubs can list their nominated father-son or NGA players as rookies for free after the National Draft and before the rookie draft if obviously they are passed over initially.   Adelaide declined to nominate Luke Edwards as a father-son altogether so he was fair game last year in the ND.  Gold Coast were able to Prelist their Zone selections as Rookies last year.

Got that @IvanBartul13 but I notice that  Collingwood announced the other day that it has opted against nominating one of its NGA prospects Youseph Dib for priority access at the draft. Was that just to let the football world know that they could freely select him in the knowledge that their bid wouldn’t be matched?

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NGA nominations closed yesterday.

Anyone know if we nominated him for the right to match a bid?

If we nominated him we can opt not to match or if he gets through the draft take him our very last pick or in as a B rookie?  

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On 10/27/2021 at 2:33 PM, Left Foot Snap said:

They seem quality people.

Yes the Brayshaws  May even produce another member of the Wingers Club for Angus and Lingers  to train beside!

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20 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Got that @IvanBartul13 but I notice that  Collingwood announced the other day that it has opted against nominating one of its NGA prospects Youseph Dib for priority access at the draft. Was that just to let the football world know that they could freely select him in the knowledge that their bid wouldn’t be matched?

NGA players go from being NGA players to Qualfied NGA players in their draft year (draftable and matchable). Thats always been just a standard process done by clubs and the AFL during the year and is the NGA lists that pop up on the AFL website and the like through the year.  I thought it was basically an automatic process in the draft year that they become that then, at the draft, clubs bid and the players Academy club can match with points or they choose not to.

 Collingwood have no category b rookie spots so they cant rookie him automatically if he falls through the draft as a category B and they obviously dont want to take him In the national draft.  Either they are just announcing it for the player’s emotional benefit,  for the smoother running of the draft or there is now a a more specific nomination process closer to the draft.  But i thought NGA players were essentially automatically tied to their home clubs (match bids notwithstanding) unlike father sons who both player and club have to submit agreement paperwork to the AFL prior to the draft almost like a trade, as per Taj Woewodin.  NGA players agree to be tied to club when they join the academy.

Re Dib they could still draft him in the normal rookie draft, but its the first time an announcement of this type has been made, maybe the AFL has a new rule where clubs have to specifically announce and lock in the NGA players they intend to draft  but that hasnt been the case previously.  Its possible the journos have found out  or been told that Dib bid wont be matched and their article suggests there’s an official process that doesnt exist.  Not 100% sure.

Edit:  Actually i am wrong and there is a nomination process, was Friday, and its just newsworthy they havent nommed him.

Edited October 30, 2021 by IvanBartul13

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16 hours ago, IvanBartul13 said:

NGA players go from being NGA players to Qualfied NGA players in their draft year (draftable and matchable). Thats always been just a standard process done by clubs and the AFL during the year and is the NGA lists that pop up on the AFL website and the like through the year.  I thought it was basically an automatic process in the draft year that they become that then, at the draft, clubs bid and the players Academy club can match with points or they choose not to.

 Collingwood have no category b rookie spots so they cant rookie him automatically if he falls through the draft as a category B and they obviously dont want to take him In the national draft.  Either they are just announcing it for the player’s emotional benefit,  for the smoother running of the draft or there is now a a more specific nomination process closer to the draft.  But i thought NGA players were essentially automatically tied to their home clubs (match bids notwithstanding) unlike father sons who both player and club have to submit agreement paperwork to the AFL prior to the draft almost like a trade, as per Taj Woewodin.  NGA players agree to be tied to club when they join the academy.

Re Dib they could still draft him in the normal rookie draft, but its the first time an announcement of this type has been made, maybe the AFL has a new rule where clubs have to specifically announce and lock in the NGA players they intend to draft  but that hasnt been the case previously.  Its possible the journos have found out  or been told that Dib bid wont be matched and their article suggests there’s an official process that doesnt exist.  Not 100% sure.

Edit:  Actually i am wrong and there is a nomination process, was Friday, and its just newsworthy they havent nommed him.

Thanks - so presumably, we are going to see a list come out of the players nominated as NGAs. 

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13 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Thanks - so presumably, we are going to see a list come out of the players nominated as NGAs. 

There should be one, but thats the thing, theres never been a list come out in years past that I can remember.

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In his Phantom Draft, Cal Twomey says we have nominated Andy.  He thinks he will join us as a rookie.  In his case it will be as a 'B' rookie.

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58 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

In his Phantom Draft, Cal Twomey says we have nominated Andy.  He thinks he will join us as a rookie.  In his case it will be as a 'B' rookie.

Yes, he was listed as nominated last week on the AFL website

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7 minutes ago, Roger Mellie said:

Yes, he was listed as nominated last week on the AFL website

Thanks, I missed that.

While unlikely that Mac Andrew slides, its good to see we also nominated him.

The Saints have 4 NGA nominations.  It is unlikely they will take them all.  

 

Edited November 22, 2021 by Lucifers Hero

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2 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Thanks, I missed that.

While unlikely that Mac Andrew slides, its good to see we also nominated him.

The Saints have 4 NGA nominations.  It is unlikely they will take them all.  

 

Don’t you have to take all NGA nominees if available?

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33 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Don’t you have to take all NGA nominees if available?

No.

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40 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Don’t you have to take all NGA nominees if available?

No - but you can list them as Cat B if no one bids on them in the draft and you nominate them. If you don't nominate them, you cannot put them on a Cat B list. 

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I think we will take him. We have a number of spots available.

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 I presume he will now be ours as a Cat B rookie.

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Just now, Redleg said:

 I presume he will now be ours as a Cat B rookie.

Probably will be named tomorrow.

[Turner 1,514]

the announcement should come around 1-2pm before the pre-season and rookie drafts because as they've slipped through the national draft all the remaining NGA nominated players become instant cat B's so us, hawthorn, blues and there might've been one or two others i don't remember 

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MELBOURNE has signed Next Generation Academy talent Andy Moniz-Wakefield as a Category B Rookie on Friday afternoon.

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Monzzie🥰

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8 minutes ago, deebug said:

Monzzie🥰

idk if this is the one that'll catch on ngl

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