Jaded No More 68,976 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 If you think this is no big deal you’re letting your Melbourne bias cloud your judgement. It is a dumb and dangerous thing to do. It’s a bad look and we are a better team than that. Can’t stand clubs who resort to cheap shots. We won by 98 points. What is the [censored] point of this sort of idiotic aggression? 14 Quote
The heart beats true 18,201 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 He held him down for 6 seconds with his elbow to his throat. They sent it the tribunal for ‘serious misconduct’. If he gets 2 weeks I think we are lucky. He’s not in the boys club. He’s gone. 3 Quote
Dr. Gonzo 24,468 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, Jaded said: Why? He deliberately pushed his elbow into the neck of an opponent. It was not accidental, it was deliberate and dangerous. If someone did that to Oliver you would be calling for their head. It is a totally unnecessary act when we try to protect the head. The intention behind it means he will get at least a week. So good luck to him getting back into the side. Dangerous? Please I'm sure the guy was so traumatised he went straight off the ground and into the rooms for medical assessment 2 Quote
Lord Nev 13,512 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 Just now, Lucifer's Hero said: Which video do you see? Collins looked lifeless to me for the 5 seconds Viney had him pinned down by the throat. The one on the AFL website. https://www.afl.com.au/video/658907/viney-tangles-with-suns-defender?videoId=658907&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1627892572001 He's clearly not "lifeless", bit of an overreaction there mate. Look at this still - He drags Viney down and has hold of his jumper with two hands. 1 1 Quote
Gawndy the Great 9,011 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 (edited) i find it absolutely ridiculous that this would even get cited and referred straight to the tribunal. Serious misconduct? There are countless jumper punches which are a bigger blight on the game that what what was simply a tonsil tickler.. never at one moment did he have his full body weight through his elbow. Edited August 2, 2021 by CYB 1 Quote
Demons11 7,151 Posted August 2, 2021 Author Posted August 2, 2021 https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/06/19/could-geelongs-captain-face-mro-scrutiny-for-this/ 1 Quote
Jaded No More 68,976 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 Just now, Dr. Gonzo said: Dangerous? Please I'm sure the guy was so traumatised he went straight off the ground and into the rooms for medical assessment Putting pressure on someone’s neck is dangerous. Full stop. You try having a 90 kilo footballer put their elbow on your throat and see how you like it. Just because no damage was done this time doesn’t mean we should just let it go. It’s absolutely a bad look for a game that is trying so hard to protect the head of players. Tell me this, if a Gold Coast player did that to Gus who has a history of head injuries would you be mad about it? 8 Quote
Guest Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, The heart beats true said: He will get 2 weeks. It was dumb and not the look the AFL want at all. Well after the play, and prolonged. Therein lies the point of this. You often see a player leaning on an oppo player in the act of getting back up on his feet. And yeah, he might apply some extra pressure for a second. But this went on for 4-5 seconds, which is a long time when your windpipe is being squashed. Quote
Satan 2,921 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 Think he is in strife , we are often cop the wrath . Quote
dl4e 5,851 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 Well if Franklin gets off then Viney should as well. However it doesn't work this way. 1 Quote
Lucifers Hero 40,746 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, CYB said: i find it absolutely ridiculous that this would even get cited and referred straight to the tribunal let alone site as serious misconduct. There are countless jumper punches which are a bigger blight on the game that what what was simply a tonsil tickler.. never at one moment did he have his full body weight through his elbow. What team does Michael Christianson go for again? Any coincidence that we play the cats in 3 weeks time and Viney would go straight to Selwood? Move along, nothing to look at here. Collingwood. Quote
brendan 3,458 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 Is this a joke? Viney is getting held down by his jumper, Selwood does this crap all the time, what a disgrace to even waste people’s time with this rubbish 1 1 Quote
Demons11 7,151 Posted August 2, 2021 Author Posted August 2, 2021 Just now, WalkingCivilWar said: Therein lies the point of this. You often see a player leaning on an oppo player in the act of getting back up on his feet. And yeah, he might apply some extra pressure for a second. But this went on for 4-5 seconds, which is a long time when your windpipe is being squashed. there is no injury, no case! That’s the way the AFL has been going for years. If he was pushing that hard on his neck do you not think Collins would be holding his neck after the incident. The bloke just jogged off. 3 Quote
Lord Nev 13,512 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jaded said: Putting pressure on someone’s neck is dangerous. Full stop. You try having a 90 kilo footballer put their elbow on your throat and see how you like it. Just because no damage was done this time doesn’t mean we should just let it go. It’s absolutely a bad look for a game that is trying so hard to protect the head of players. Tell me this, if a Gold Coast player did that to Gus who has a history of head injuries would you be mad about it? Hang on, so is it throat or head? Don't try and make it sound worse by changing the story to suit your examples. 3 Quote
picket fence 18,190 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, Billy said: You’d be happy if he got 2 wouldn’t you? Don't u ever put words into my mouth! Based on what ive seen, based on the fact Dees seem to always cop serious tribunal stick, I reckon he will get weeks! Putting an elbow onto someones neck is not just stupid its potentially very very dangerous 1 Quote
Demons11 7,151 Posted August 2, 2021 Author Posted August 2, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Jaded said: If you think this is no big deal you’re letting your Melbourne bias cloud your judgement. It is a dumb and dangerous thing to do. It’s a bad look and we are a better team than that. Can’t stand clubs who resort to cheap shots. We won by 98 points. What is the [censored] point of this sort of idiotic aggression? Because you play from siren to siren. Based on your view than ANB shouldn’t have made that chase down tackle in the last qtr and just been relaxing at half forward. Edited August 2, 2021 by Demons11 1 Quote
Whispering_Jack 31,368 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 Viney charged with serious misconduct Quote
Lord Nev 13,512 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said: Therein lies the point of this. You often see a player leaning on an oppo player in the act of getting back up on his feet. And yeah, he might apply some extra pressure for a second. But this went on for 4-5 seconds, which is a long time when your windpipe is being squashed. What? Are we looking at the same video? Nowhere near his windpipe. 3 Quote
Gawndy the Great 9,011 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said: Collingwood. That was quick... Even for you Lucifer ? 1 Quote
Billy 2,576 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 1 minute ago, picket fence said: Don't u ever put words into my mouth! Based on what ive seen, based on the fact Dees seem to always cop serious tribunal stick, I reckon he will get weeks! Putting an elbow onto someones neck is not just stupid its potentially very very dangerous Did you see the question mark???? Quote
picket fence 18,190 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Billy said: Did you see the question mark???? Irrelevant Billy! Edited August 2, 2021 by picket fence Quote
Jaded No More 68,976 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, Lord Nev said: Hang on, so is it throat or head? Don't try and make it sound worse by changing the story to suit your examples. The head and neck are one of the same. If injured both can have severe consequences. Hence why we pay frees for above the shoulders and not just for being hit directly in the head. 4 minutes ago, Demons11 said: Because you play from siren to siren. Based on your view than ANB shouldn’t have made that chase down tackle in the last qtr and just been relaxing at half forward. Are you comparing laying a tackle to deliberately hurting an opponent off the ball??? How are these two things related?? 2 1 Quote
Abyssal 470 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 POINT of his elbow to a pressure point of the neck. Take your rose coloured glasses off. 2 Quote
Lord Nev 13,512 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 Just now, Jaded said: The head and neck are one of the same. Ummmmm.... 1 Quote
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