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This morning, on Gerard Whately's segment, the "Means Test", David King suggested that Melbourne need to start looking at strategically resting players, with a view to cranking up again, in the last 3rd of the season.

Given that many of us on here, think that Maxy is either carrying an injury or is just tired,  Fritta, only just recently had surgery on a broken hand and by his recent standards, was ordinary against the Swans.  Gus is not going particularly well.  Both Kozzie and Dogga are young and almost certainly need a rest before the home and away is over. Despite word from the club to the contrary, Trac must be sore after collecting a corky right on the siren

Is David King right?  Should we tank.... sorry..."manage" our core group now, or wait a bit longer?  I want to beat Carltank more than anything this week.

After that, let's see.  Your thoughts?

 

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No where near close to resting players. But, 8-0 means that a slight niggle vs say Adelaide etc might turn into a week injury.

Back 1/3 of the season if you have top 2 locked up then sure.

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Just now, Queanbeyan Demon said:

How many games of footy has he coached in the AFL?

He was an assistant at Richmond,   But in terms of your question, I would suggest the point is moot.  He's be in an around elite AFL environments for a considerable period, so I reckon he might know just a wee bit more than most on here.

In any event, my basic question is, if we are to manage players, then when should that be?

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4 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

good god no

play the best team every week to win every week

consistency of personnel is key to, well, consistency

So, are you saying, we play the best 22 week in week out, even at the cost of long term injury?

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1 minute ago, I'va Worn Smith said:

So, are you saying, we play the best 22 week in week out, even at the cost of long term injury?

the question is premature after only 8 rounds

let's revisit it around round 15 or so

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1 minute ago, I'va Worn Smith said:

So, are you saying, we play the best 22 week in week out, even at the cost of long term injury?

you can't stop an lti

if a player is incapable of taking the field, they don't play

all players are sore already at this point of the year

we are playing consistent, process-driven football by dint of having a consistent side with a consistent approach

you don't 'mess' with it when you've achieved nothing; we're not richmond

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2 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

you can't stop an lti

if a player is incapable of taking the field, they don't play

all players are sore already at this point of the year

we are playing consistent, process-driven football by dint of having a consistent side with a consistent approach

you don't 'mess' with it when you've achieved nothing; we're not richmond

Please read my originating post

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Not even half way through the year, and there is plenty more footy to come. One week at a time and keep banking the 4 points, if players are carrying an injury (I think Trac might be a chance at having this week off) then give someone else a crack. I remember North started a year with 9 wins and scraped into finals. 

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1 minute ago, Pates said:

Not even half way through the year, and there is plenty more footy to come. One week at a time and keep banking the 4 points, if players are carrying an injury (I think Trac might be a chance at having this week off) then give someone else a crack. I remember North started a year with 9 wins and scraped into finals. 

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I reckon the youngsters Kozzie, Dogga, Jordon and Rivers will tire and need a break at some stage. If players are carrying knocks (none spring to mind although there is some conjecture about whether Maxy is carrying an injury) then by all means rest them

I think round 8 is too early to be resting our mature players. They have a few pre seasons in their legs so shouldn’t need a break this early. Later on in the season if the club feel a break would freshen them up then go for it. The key is to have the team firing for September and if some strategic management of players ensures that then I’m all for it.

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6 minutes ago, Better days ahead said:

I reckon the youngsters Kozzie, Dogga, Jordon and Rivers will tire and need a break at some stage. If players are carrying knocks (none spring to mind although there is some conjecture about whether Maxy is carrying an injury) then by all means rest them

I think round 8 is too early to be resting our mature players. They have a few pre seasons in their legs so shouldn’t need a break this early. Later on in the season if the club feel a break would freshen them up then go for it. The key is to have the team firing for September and if some strategic management of players ensures that then I’m all for it.

At no stage, in my originating post, did I even remotely suggest players should be rested now.  I raised an issue ,which was discussed on radio this morning, about when might be an appropriate time to rest players.  That is all.  Once the timing may be decided, then the mix of players being rested wil become the key.

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I agree to an extent. Not now but perhaps in the next 5 weeks we need to look at it. Happy to rest a mid and let Gus go in the middle for couple of games. Rest a big forward to give Weid a run. Generally if players at Casey are knocking the door down you should give them a taste. 

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42 minutes ago, I'va Worn Smith said:

This morning, on Gerard Whately's segment, the "Means Test", David King suggested that Melbourne need to start looking at strategically resting players, with a view to cranking up again, in the last 3rd of the season.

Given that many of us on here, think that Maxy is either carrying an injury or is just tired,  Fritta, only just recently had surgery on a broken hand and by his recent standards, was ordinary against the Swans.  Gus is not going particularly well.  Both Kozzie and Dogga are young and almost certainly need a rest before the home and away is over. Despite word from the club to the contrary, Trac must be sore after collecting a corky right on the siren

Is David King right?  Should we tank.... sorry..."manage" our core group now, or wait a bit longer?  I want to beat Carltank more than anything this week.

After that, let's see.  Your thoughts?

 

I currently have every bit of faith in Burgess and co to appropriately manage each individual's workload throughout the season. 

David King suggests we need to start looking at resting players based on what information? He hasn't any access to players GPS data, medical reports, anything at all. Trust the club to make good decisions and not get spooked by this d-bag.

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5 minutes ago, I'va Worn Smith said:

At no stage, in my originating post, did I even remotely suggest players should be rested now.  I raised an issue ,which was discussed on radio this morning, about when might be an appropriate time to rest players.  That is all.  Once the timing may be decided, then the mix pf players being rested wil become the key.

I think you did. How should i have read the below. At the least you implied it.

51 minutes ago, I'va Worn Smith said:

David King suggested that Melbourne need to start looking at strategically resting players, with a view to cranking up again, in the last 3rd of the season.

All good IWS. It's a topic worth discussing. 

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32 minutes ago, I'va Worn Smith said:

He was an assistant at Richmond,   But in terms of your question, I would suggest the point is moot.  He's be in an around elite AFL environments for a considerable period, so I reckon he might know just a wee bit more than most on here.

In any event, my basic question is, if we are to manage players, then when should that be?

I'm sure there would be other ex-players who would hold an opposite view

You don't flirt with form, particular in our situation. Perhaps if we'd already been up for a couple of years yeah, sure but not after 1/3 of a good season in 3 years.

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