Punt Road redevelopment

[Kent 2,913]

9 hours ago, old dee said:

I have driving all over Melbourne in my jobs for the 45 years I suggest you should make the drive. But I am not sure why we are going on with this this as the MFC have said on numerous occasions that facility has to be in the vicinity of the G. Port Melb. Is not in the vicinity of the G no matter how you look at it.

End of story.

Old you better tune up your van and make haste while you Juggle the Melways on your lap

 

There is no way its 10 minutes and if driving where do you park?

 

[Dannyz 2,851]

19 hours ago, don't make me angry said:

Well then nothing will happen, if he is only looking in the heart of Melbourne he won't find anything.

We shall see...

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,906]

20 hours ago, don't make me angry said:

Well then nothing will happen, if he is only looking in the heart of Melbourne he won't find anything.

"The horror! The horror!"

 

 

[Pates 9,660]

19 hours ago, don't make me angry said:

Not really this is the man who said no to 3 million dollars over 3 years, from the competitive fund, that was on offer from the AFL,  he said we don't need the extra coin because we make enough money, when he got rid of Joe, the Club had less then 1 million in debt, and our debt was over 5 million after 3 seasons with him at the top.

So many people blame Joe for a lot of things which you Gabriel actually did, how the sands of time has covered this men's tracks I don't know, maybe because Joe is a Jew, and Gabriel is not

Fair point, I wasn't a fan of how Joe was ousted from the club. He came to us when we barely escaped merging and the way he was disposed of so abruptly was unfair to him. You also make a good point that under Gabriel we got a lot worse with management, it's one of the great examples of a coup at a football club only making matters worse.

I'll blame my age at the time for not quite remembering things right. For a long time we just seemed to lurch from one poor management to another.

[Hogan2014 390]

On 12/3/2020 at 8:43 PM, Better days ahead said:

I think Port Melbourne is as good a spot as any. The whole area is ripe for development. 

I lived in port all my life followed vfa port as same theme song & colours .. the Port Ground is ripe for development & the whole area is getting developed with fisherman’s bend project with thousands of new residents & new schools etc ..the opportunity to get in the local community & build supporter base is huge, partnership with port Melb fc in the vfl were both teams could train under one roof along with the admin is a huge upside..Would be & feel more like a suburban club not a club part of the MCC.

[Half forward flank 1,022]

1 minute ago, Hogan2014 said:

I lived in port all my life followed vfa port as same theme song & colours .. the Port Ground is ripe for development & the whole area is getting developed with fisherman’s bend project with thousands of new residents & new schools etc ..the opportunity to get in the local community & build supporter base is huge, partnership with port Melb fc in the vfl were both teams could train under one roof along with the admin is a huge upside..Would be & feel more like a suburban club not a club part of the MCC.

Well said. we will look back when the areas developed and it is an extension of the CBD and shake out heads again, just like the tennis centre. For every one of the old diehards like a few who commented here there would two or three new occupants looking to integrate into the community.

[Kent 2,913]

39 minutes ago, Hogan2014 said:

I lived in port all my life followed vfa port as same theme song & colours .. the Port Ground is ripe for development & the whole area is getting developed with fisherman’s bend project with thousands of new residents & new schools etc ..the opportunity to get in the local community & build supporter base is huge, partnership with port Melb fc in the vfl were both teams could train under one roof along with the admin is a huge upside..Would be & feel more like a suburban club not a club part of the MCC.

other than North port oval ( smaller that Etihad or MCG) where else is there enough space in Port

I thought all  the large industrial sites have been snapped up by landbankers

[old dee 23,870]

1 hour ago, Kent said:

other than North port oval ( smaller that Etihad or MCG) where else is there enough space in Port

I thought all  the large industrial sites have been snapped up by landbankers

Forget about Port we are never going there Kent. As you know it is G vicinity or never.

[Kent 2,913]

So in Summary Old "Its never" Right?

 

Edited December 5, 2020 by Kent

[Gouga 570]

2 hours ago, Kent said:

So in Summary Old "Its never" Right?

 

This is sure to be the number one issue at the member forum on Thursday. 

[old dee 23,870]

3 hours ago, Kent said:

So in Summary Old "Its never" Right?

 

Not sure Kent. I have a feeling it is all waiting on rezoning the area use. 

[Diamond_Jim 12,624]

I have always found that the best decisions in life are made when one is confronted by choices.

It seems tome that by limiting themselves to the MCG area the Board has given itself a choice between something and nothing.

Something will win out as it always does because it appears better than nothing.

I would have had three competing programs... Casey, Goschs and another inner city area.. and competed them to the end.

[old dee 23,870]

5 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

I have always found that the best decisions in life are made when one is confronted by choices.

It seems tome that by limiting themselves to the MCG area the Board has given itself a choice between something and nothing.

Something will win out as it always does because it appears better than nothing.

I would have had three competing programs... Casey, Goschs and another inner city area.. and competed them to the end.

Not sure your third choice exists DJ. That is the problem. It is Casey or Goschs. 

[Demonsone 2,043]

The strategy of Casey whilst not current board decision is baffling when you consider they want a home base near the mcg....

[Neil Crompton 5,600]

2 hours ago, old dee said:

Not sure your third choice exists DJ. That is the problem. It is Casey or Goschs. 

It would appear that a significant number of posters on here for some reason don't believe a word of what Glen Bartlett has told us at the beginning of July about our new training facility. In his podcast he has clearly stated that: 

- our new training and administration facility will be in the MCG precinct area.

- it will include a social club

- the training oval will not be MCG size - due to space restrictions

- we will have a second training facility at Casey (including MCG size oval, and a good sized indoor kicking area)

- the initial phase (to analyze option sites, establish the requirements for the new development, and recommend a preferred option) has been completed

- the second phase of the development is now in full swing - ie focusing on the preferred site only, and finalizing the Concept Master Plan for this site.

- the entire process from analysis, through concept development, to detailed design to construction completion was going to be about a 4 year process (from memory)

Until proven otherwise, I'm more than happy to not only believe what Glen has outlined, but also to be very excited about what he has outlined. Yes its too many years overdue, but it looks very real at the moment. 

 

Edited December 5, 2020 by Neil Crompton

[Neil Crompton 5,600]

22 minutes ago, Demonsone said:

The strategy of Casey whilst not current board decision is baffling when you consider they want a home base near the mcg....

Demonsone, Bartlett also explained that when they researched the major sporting clubs around the world to determine best practice, he said that a large number of these major clubs had both a city base and a second base outside of the city. This is the concept we have apparently adopted - a city base in the MCG precinct area and a second at Casey.

[Gouga 570]

40 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

Demonsone, Bartlett also explained that when they researched the major sporting clubs around the world to determine best practice, he said that a large number of these major clubs had both a city base and a second base outside of the city. This is the concept we have apparently adopted - a city base in the MCG precinct area and a second at Casey.

Which clubs? Bartlett didn't name any. 

Edited December 5, 2020 by Gouga

[Half forward flank 1,022]

6 minutes ago, Gouga said:

Which clubs? Bartlett didn't name any. 

He also did not explain that the teams he referred to were all the only team in the city they represent. The giveaway is phase 2 focusing on preferred location. Now if there is more than one MCG precinct location available then, I don now nuffing anymor

Edited December 5, 2020 by Half forward flank

[Blind_turn 38]

Now Collingwood get a [censored] load of cash!

[Half forward flank 1,022]

Anyone else think it odd Bartlett hinted we are up to phase 2 of selecting between locations but will not tell members where these mystery locations are? 

[old dee 23,870]

1 hour ago, Neil Crompton said:

It would appear that a significant number of posters on here for some reason don't believe a word of what Glen Bartlett has told us at the beginning of July about our new training facility. In his podcast he has clearly stated that: 

- our new training and administration facility will be in the MCG precinct area.

- it will include a social club

- the training oval will not be MCG size - due to space restrictions

- we will have a second training facility at Casey (including MCG size oval, and a good sized indoor kicking area)

- the initial phase (to analyze option sites, establish the requirements for the new development, and recommend a preferred option) has been completed

- the second phase of the development is now in full swing - ie focusing on the preferred site only, and finalizing the Concept Master Plan for this site.

- the entire process from analysis, through concept development, to detailed design to construction completion was going to be about a 4 year process (from memory)

Until proven otherwise, I'm more than happy to not only believe what Glen has outlined, but also to be very excited about what he has outlined. Yes its too many years overdue, but it looks very real at the moment. 

 

Could not agree more NC. It is the vicinity of the G and that is it. I have been trying to tell people on here for months. I don’t care where it is as long as it gets us the facilities that match most other clubs. The MFC board and 90% of members  want it close to the G. End of story.

[Kent 2,913]

14 hours ago, Neil Crompton said:

It would appear that a significant number of posters on here for some reason don't believe a word of what Glen Bartlett has told us at the beginning of July about our new training facility. In his podcast he has clearly stated that: 

- our new training and administration facility will be in the MCG precinct area.

- it will include a social club

- the training oval will not be MCG size - due to space restrictions

- we will have a second training facility at Casey (including MCG size oval, and a good sized indoor kicking area)

- the initial phase (to analyze option sites, establish the requirements for the new development, and recommend a preferred option) has been completed

- the second phase of the development is now in full swing - ie focusing on the preferred site only, and finalizing the Concept Master Plan for this site.

- the entire process from analysis, through concept development, to detailed design to construction completion was going to be about a 4 year process (from memory)

Until proven otherwise, I'm more than happy to not only believe what Glen has outlined, but also to be very excited about what he has outlined. Yes its too many years overdue, but it looks very real at the moment. 

 

when did the 4 years start Neil? Perhaps  some on here dont believe Bartlett because  nothing appears to have progressed

[Neil Crompton 5,600]

1 hour ago, Kent said:

when did the 4 years start Neil? Perhaps  some on here dont believe Bartlett because  nothing appears to have progressed

If you listen to the podcast you’ll know as much as I do and then you can make up your own mind as to whether it’s real or not. 

[Pickett2Jackson 3,904]

We will never have a real home as we are called 'Melbourne'.  Makes it very hard unlike all the other Vic teams who are from suburbs.  Even North Melbourne have a spiritual home at Arden St.

Where is Melbourne?  Should we build an oval in the middle of Bourke St Mall?

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,906]

On 12/5/2020 at 8:16 PM, Half forward flank said:

Anyone else think it odd Bartlett hinted we are up to phase 2 of selecting between locations but will not tell members where these mystery locations are? 

I don't think it's odd. There could be a number of reasons such as land value(ie, keeping it from becoming more expensive), Government directive (ie, if it's government owned land or a government-led project, the government might be insisting on secrecy) or not wanting to give those who may oppose the development opportunities to kill off the proposal before the funding is locked away.