B: Jetta, May, Hibberd

HB: Lever, T.Macdonald, Salem

C: Langdon, Brayshaw, Tomlinson

HF: Fritsch, Weideman, Petracca

F: Pickett, B.Brown, Viney

R: Gawn, Oliver, Harmes

I: Jackson, Rivers, Melksham, Spargo

 

Only potential change I would make is Tomlinson out, Salem to a wing, Hunt to a half back flank or if we pick up a classy half back flanker with one of our picks they could potentially step in.

This is how I would set up:

3 tall forwards (Brown, Weideman, Jackson)

3 small forwards (Pickett, Viney, Spargo)

3 medium forwards (Fritsch, Petracca, Melksham)

3 full time inside mids (Oliver, Brayshaw, Harmes)

Petracca to split his time 50/50 between forward and midfield, Viney to split 75/25  forward midfield, Jackson to split 50/50 forward midfield (25% ruck, 25% inside mid)

Harmes to go back tagging the best mid and then getting his own pill, melksham to go back to negating the best defender and then being linkman between midfield and forwards

Jetta and Hibberd to lock down on small forwards, Salem and Rivers to rebound from half back, May Lever and Tmac can form really good defence and rebound

 

Honestly reckon if everyone is utilised in the right position we can definitely contend for top 4 and a flag next year, bring it on.

 

 

Edited November 12, 20204 yr by Gawndog98

WERRIDEE'S POST TRADE 22 AND RESERVES TEAM FOR 2021.

B: HIBBERD, MAY, LEVER

HB: RIVERS, TOMLINSON, SALEM

C : LANGDON, PETRACCA, BAKER

HF: MELKSHAM, JACKSON, FRITSCH

F: PICKETT, B.BROWN, WEIDEMAN

FOLL: GAWN, OLIVER, VINEY

IC: BRAYSHAW, HARMES, HUNT, HORE

EMERG: JONES, VANDENBERG, SPARROW, NEAL-BULLEN

 

B: LOCKHART(ROOKIE), SMITH, JETTA

HB: CHANDLER (ROOKIE), PETTY, NEITSCHKE (ROOKIE)

C : VANDENBERG, JONES, DRAFT PICK

HF: NEAL-BULLEN, MCDONALD, DRAFT PICK

F: BEDFORD, M.BROWN (ROOKIE), SPARGO

FOLL: BRADTKE (ROOKIEB), SPARROW, JORDON

IC: KOLODJASHNIJ, DARFT PICK, DRAFT PICK

9 hours ago, Gawndog98 said:

B: Jetta, May, Hibberd

HB: Lever, T.Macdonald, Salem

C: Langdon, Brayshaw, Tomlinson

HF: Fritsch, Weideman, Petracca

F: Pickett, B.Brown, Viney

R: Gawn, Oliver, Harmes

I: Jackson, Rivers, Melksham, Spargo

 

Only potential change I would make is Tomlinson out, Salem to a wing, Hunt to a half back flank or if we pick up a classy half back flanker with one of our picks they could potentially step in.

This is how I would set up:

3 tall forwards (Brown, Weideman, Jackson)

3 small forwards (Pickett, Viney, Spargo)

3 medium forwards (Fritsch, Petracca, Melksham)

3 full time inside mids (Oliver, Brayshaw, Harmes)

Petracca to split his time 50/50 between forward and midfield, Viney to split 75/25  forward midfield, Jackson to split 50/50 forward midfield (25% ruck, 25% inside mid)

Harmes to go back tagging the best mid and then getting his own pill, melksham to go back to negating the best defender and then being linkman between midfield and forwards

Jetta and Hibberd to lock down on small forwards, Salem and Rivers to rebound from half back, May Lever and Tmac can form really good defence and rebound

 

Honestly reckon if everyone is utilised in the right position we can definitely contend for top 4 and a flag next year, bring it on.

 

 

Please tell Goodwin mate

you wont get any argument on here

i can't see viney being used forward

he's a mid

14 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

i can't see viney being used forward

he's a mid

IMO one of Oliver/Brayshaw/Harmes/Viney/Petracca will have to spend the majority of their time in another position which Brayshaw and Harmes have tried and failed at. I think Viney has some really good attributes of a small forward, he's a relentless tackler and wins a lot of 1v1s, I think he'd be great at the feet of our tails. I just think out of our mids apart from Petracca he'd have the best potential to play well in a second position, would still get some midfield time, sort of like Kane Lambert. Apart from Kozzy I think Viney would be a better small forward than any other small forwards on our list, highly doubt it happens though knowing Goody, it's just what I reckon would be best for the team. 

On 11/7/2020 at 6:50 PM, Dr.D said:

we're still bloody slow. so much for working on our deficiencies

??‍♂️Baker, hunt, Salem, rivers, Langdon, kozzie, Trac, Oliver.   What a bunch of snails 

5 minutes ago, Gawndog98 said:

IMO one of Oliver/Brayshaw/Harmes/Viney/Petracca will have to spend the majority of their time in another position which Brayshaw and Harmes have tried and failed at. I think Viney has some really good attributes of a small forward, he's a relentless tackler and wins a lot of 1v1s, I think he'd be great at the feet of our tails. I just think out of our mids apart from Petracca he'd have the best potential to play well in a second position, would still get some midfield time, sort of like Kane Lambert. Apart from Kozzy I think Viney would be a better small forward than any other small forwards on our list, highly doubt it happens though knowing Goody, it's just what I reckon would be best for the team. 

harmes is the man i reckon

prior to becoming a mid tagger midway thru 2018 he was primarily deployed as a forward / wing - i expect him to return to that role after the failed attempt to play him as a half-back distributor

Why do people put Melksham in the side ? Just does not warrant it. I would have Petty or tmac ahead of Tomlinson as well.

10 minutes ago, Gawndog98 said:

IMO one of Oliver/Brayshaw/Harmes/Viney/Petracca will have to spend the majority of their time in another position which Brayshaw and Harmes have tried and failed at. I think Viney has some really good attributes of a small forward, he's a relentless tackler and wins a lot of 1v1s, I think he'd be great at the feet of our tails. I just think out of our mids apart from Petracca he'd have the best potential to play well in a second position, would still get some midfield time, sort of like Kane Lambert. Apart from Kozzy I think Viney would be a better small forward than any other small forwards on our list, highly doubt it happens though knowing Goody, it's just what I reckon would be best for the team. 

Agree re Viney  Gawndog

Watched his 2020 highlights

He was far more competent than I though as you say tackled like crazy and won a lot of non centre contests just by being stronger and more determined 

Looking forward to his 2021 will be brilliant

2 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

harmes is the man i reckon

prior to becoming a mid tagger midway thru 2018 he was primarily deployed as a forward / wing - i expect him to return to that role after the failed attempt to play him as a half-back distributor

I was never a fan of Harmes as a forward, I just think Viney should be at least tried forward. When we were at our best Harmes was also one of our most important players as a negating mid, didn't do the flashy stuff but I thought his influence on games was enormous. Viney also has great influence as a mid I just think for our midfield balance and potential usefulness in a second position Viney is the man to play forward. I still maintain belief that our best midfield set up is Oliver, Brayshaw, and Harmes which provides the best balance of inside grunt (Oliver), outside nous (Brayshaw), and defence (Harmes), with then Petracca, Viney, and Jackson rotating through there.

[censored] this trade period! we've gotta put up with the Mcdonalds for another year. [censored]!!!!!!!

5 hours ago, Gawndog98 said:

IMO one of Oliver/Brayshaw/Harmes/Viney/Petracca will have to spend the majority of their time in another position which Brayshaw and Harmes have tried and failed at. I think Viney has some really good attributes of a small forward, he's a relentless tackler and wins a lot of 1v1s, I think he'd be great at the feet of our tails. I just think out of our mids apart from Petracca he'd have the best potential to play well in a second position, would still get some midfield time, sort of like Kane Lambert. Apart from Kozzy I think Viney would be a better small forward than any other small forwards on our list, highly doubt it happens though knowing Goody, it's just what I reckon would be best for the team. 

Good point on Viney.  It would greatly improve defensve forward pressure with him in the vicinity.

Seniors

FB: Lever May Hibberd

HB: Salem Petty Rivers

C: Langdon Viney Baker

HF: Fritsch Weideman Harmes

FF: Pickett BBrown Jackson

R: Gawn Oliver Petracca

IC: Brayshaw Hore Spargo Melksham

E: Sparrow MBrown Tomlinson Lockhart

 

2s

FB: Lockhart Smith Jetta

HB: Nietschke TMcDonald Chandler

C: Tomlinson vandenberg Jordon

HF: Neal-Bullen MBrown Hunt

FF: Bedford xxxx xxxx

R: Bradtke Jones Sparrow

IC: xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx

FB: Hibberd May Hore
HB: Rivers Lever Salem
Int: Lockhart/Tomlinson

C: Langdon Petracca Jackson
R: Gawn  Oliver Viney
Int: Harmes, Sparrow

HF: Spargo Petty Hunt
FF: Pickett Brown Fritsch
Int: ANB/draft picks 

Got to give Jackson a chance at the Blicavs wing/ruck role, with the occasional rest forward. 
 

Brown and Weid won’t work, especially with Fritsch. Petty is a better support man. 

Sparrow offers more versatility than Gus. Heavy midfield rotations and vital.

The 6th and 7th defenders (Hore, Lockhart, Tomlinson) and especially the 6/7th forwards (Hunt, ANB) might all need upgrading. A draft pick in to that forward/mid rotation is a must 

I think Weed will thrive with Brown taking the number one focus .

I love the idea of Jackson on a wing, could be a revelation.

6 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

FB: Hibberd May Hore
HB: Rivers Lever Salem
Int: Lockhart/Tomlinson

C: Langdon Petracca Jackson
R: Gawn  Oliver Viney
Int: Harmes, Sparrow

HF: Spargo Petty Hunt
FF: Pickett Brown Fritsch
Int: ANB/draft picks 

Got to give Jackson a chance at the Blicavs wing/ruck role, with the occasional rest forward. 
 

Brown and Weid won’t work, especially with Fritsch. Petty is a better support man. 

Sparrow offers more versatility than Gus. Heavy midfield rotations and vital.

The 6th and 7th defenders (Hore, Lockhart, Tomlinson) and especially the 6/7th forwards (Hunt, ANB) might all need upgrading. A draft pick in to that forward/mid rotation is a must 

I like Petty but can you please explain how he can work with Brown more effectively than Weed?

6 minutes ago, Pollyanna said:

I like Petty but can you please explain how he can work with Brown more effectively than Weed?

He’s sharper at ground level with better agility. He’ll find more of the ball on the lead or in general play and be better defensively. Teams only need 1 go to tall target. Particularly with Gawn, Jackson, Fritsch and Petracca in the side we don’t need Weid’s big clunk marking or contesting. 

All line-ups seem to have a common 18-20 with just some tinkering in the last few spots, including mine:

FB: Rivers May Lever
HB: Salem Petty Hibberd
I: Smith

I like Petty better than the alternatives because he can play genuine KPD and free May and Lever up.  I'm not sold on Smith and could have Hore or Lockhart there, but if Smith can make it he's the most flexible.

C: Langdon Petracca Tomlinson
R: Gawn Oliver Viney
I: Brayshaw Harmes Melksham

I've gone back to Tomlinson on the wing, maybe Harmes, but that still wouldn't change my 22 because I think Tomlinson is ordinary but versatile.  I'm rotating midfielders through the forward line so 3 on the bench.  Melksham will raise eyebrows but he's clearly the next best player on our list by a long way.

HF: Fritsch Weideman Spargo
FF: Jackson B.Brown Pickett

I'm rotating midfielders through the forward line so I only need 6 forwards.  Spargo is there to provide some forward pressure with Pickett and Jackson.  I think his gradient is up.  Everyone knows @A F and I would play Viney as a pressure forward but it's not going to happen.

 

Edited November 13, 20204 yr by Pollyanna

1 minute ago, DeeSpencer said:

He’s sharper at ground level with better agility. He’ll find more of the ball on the lead or in general play and be better defensively. Teams only need 1 go to tall target. Particularly with Gawn, Jackson, Fritsch and Petracca in the side we don’t need Weid’s big clunk marking or contesting. 

FWIW, I think Weed's agility and ground play is way under-rated, he can snare a ground ball and he's strong handballer on both sides which is very rare.  I haven't seen anything from Petty to suggest he is better,

2 minutes ago, Pollyanna said:

FWIW, I think Weed's agility and ground play is way under-rated, he can snare a ground ball and he's strong handballer on both sides which is very rare.  I haven't seen anything from Petty to suggest he is better,

Weid's my favourite handballer on the list, has great timing and technique on both sides. Just doesn't get enough of the ball and is terrible defensively. I suspect we'll start with Brown and Weid together, I just don't think it will work. I'd love for Weid to genuinely grab hold of his spot and not let it go.

lockhart may lever

rivers petty hibberd

hunt viney langdon

fritsch weed brayshaw

pickett Ben brown jackson

Gawn petracca Oliver

harmes tomlinson salem baker

Hibberd    May    Lever 

Salem  Tommlinson  Rivers 

Harmes  Brayshaw  Langdon 

Petracca   Weideman   Fritsch 

Pickett   Brown  Jackson 

Gawn   Viney   Oliver 

I/C: Melksham, Lochart, Baker, Jetta

Just adding my two cents - Jack tackles all day - put him in the forward line and let him loose on defenders.  Amazing contender for a midfield convert to forward. Love the idea!

1 hour ago, Pollyanna said:

All line-ups seem to have a common 18-20 with just some tinkering in the last few spots, including mine:

FB: Rivers May Lever
HB: Salem Petty Hibberd
I: Smith

I like Petty better than the alternatives because he can play genuine KPD and free May and Lever up.  I'm not sold on Smith and could have Hore or Lockhart there, but if Smith can make it he's the most flexible.

C: Langdon Petracca Tomlinson
R: Gawn Oliver Viney
I: Brayshaw Harmes Melksham

I've gone back to Tomlinson on the wing, maybe Harmes, but that still wouldn't change my 22 because I think Tomlinson is ordinary but versatile.  I'm rotating midfielders through the forward line so 3 on the bench.  Melksham will raise eyebrows but he's clearly the next best player on our list by a long way.

HF: Fritsch Weideman Spargo
FF: Jackson B.Brown Pickett

I'm rotating midfielders through the forward line so I only need 6 forwards.  Spargo is there to provide some forward pressure with Pickett and Jackson.  I think his gradient is up.  Everyone knows @A F and I would play Viney as a pressure forward but it's not going to happen.

 

I'd have Melksham in place of Smith and whilst I like Spargo, I worry about that forwardline without another tackler in there, but I guess there's always going to be a Harmes and/or a Petracca rotating through there too. 

24 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

Hibberd    May    Lever 

Salem  Tommlinson  Rivers 

Harmes  Brayshaw  Langdon 

Petracca   Weideman   Fritsch 

Pickett   Brown  Jackson 

Gawn   Viney   Oliver 

I/C: Melksham, Lochart, Baker, Jetta

Love the starting team, mate. I'd have Melksham and Lockhart in there, but question Baker and Jetta. I really like Harmes on a wing there.