Sir Why You Little 37,458 Posted November 6, 2020 Posted November 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Demonland said: So they have broken him. Who can pay that Contract...? Quote
Forest Demon 4,681 Posted November 6, 2020 Posted November 6, 2020 I’d rather bank the $$ and chase more class, like Merrett next year. Treloar is a good player, but his delivery is his biggest weakness, and we don’t need more of that atm, especially on big $$. 2 Quote
Nascent 9,345 Posted November 6, 2020 Posted November 6, 2020 If Collingwood are desperate enough about their salary cap dumping then they need to lower their expectations in trade compensation. They've made their bed, time to suffer the consequences of bad list management. 1 Quote
Mt. Dee-Maaan 608 Posted November 6, 2020 Posted November 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Forest Demon said: I’d rather bank the $$ and chase more class, like Merrett next year. Treloar is a good player, but his delivery is his biggest weakness, and we don’t need more of that atm, especially on big $$. i’d happily rather a good bloke like treloar with speed and skill that’s perhaps 5% less a player (delivery-wise) than merrett..talk about a punchable head! i am actually not sure there’s too much different between the two - one has blonde hair and one brown 1 1 Quote
whatwhat say what 23,861 Posted November 6, 2020 Posted November 6, 2020 16 minutes ago, Rocky said: i’d happily rather a good bloke like treloar with speed and skill that’s perhaps 5% less a player (delivery-wise) than merrett..talk about a punchable head! i am actually not sure there’s too much different between the two - one has blonde hair and one brown zerrett is a significantly better user of the pill 1 Quote
Forest Demon 4,681 Posted November 6, 2020 Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Rocky said: i’d happily rather a good bloke like treloar with speed and skill that’s perhaps 5% less a player (delivery-wise) than merrett..talk about a punchable head! i am actually not sure there’s too much different between the two - one has blonde hair and one brown Besides playing for Essendon, which admittedly is pretty severe, I’m not sure what Zac Merrett has done wrong. I would take him every day of the week over Treloar. And 5% less delivery wise? I think you missed a zero. Edited November 6, 2020 by Forest Demon 2 Quote
old55 23,862 Posted November 6, 2020 Posted November 6, 2020 Merrett and Treloar are both very good players but Merrett is 2.5 years younger so is a more attractive option. 1 Quote
Kent 2,920 Posted November 6, 2020 Posted November 6, 2020 7 hours ago, Forest Demon said: Besides playing for Essendon, which admittedly is pretty severe, I’m not sure what Zac Merrett has done wrong. I would take him every day of the week over Treloar. And 5% less delivery wise? I think you missed a zero. Is Merret available in any way?Or is this just dreaming Quote
Fat Tony 5,337 Posted November 6, 2020 Posted November 6, 2020 32 minutes ago, Pollyanna said: Merrett and Treloar are both very good players but Merrett is 2.5 years younger so is a more attractive option. And Merrett is a free agent. 1 Quote
Forest Demon 4,681 Posted November 6, 2020 Posted November 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kent said: Is Merret available in any way?Or is this just dreaming Restricted free agent next year I believe, and there were rumours he wanted out this year, but Essendon stamped that out pretty quick. He would be the perfect compliment to our midfield imo, but there will be plenty of competition to get him if he decides to leave. Quote
Kent 2,920 Posted November 6, 2020 Posted November 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, Forest Demon said: Restricted free agent next year I believe, and there were rumours he wanted out this year, but Essendon stamped that out pretty quick. He would be the perfect compliment to our midfield imo, but there will be plenty of competition to get him if he decides to leave. Thanks FD so we could make a play this year for the right deal Quote
DubDee 26,675 Posted November 6, 2020 Posted November 6, 2020 57 minutes ago, Forest Demon said: Restricted free agent next year I believe, and there were rumours he wanted out this year, but Essendon stamped that out pretty quick. He would be the perfect compliment to our midfield imo, but there will be plenty of competition to get him if he decides to leave. Don’t know Merretts game well but isn’t he an inside mid only? With good skills. He would add to our list of players wanting minutes on the ball. id prefer Whitfield or Kelly to play on the outside Quote
BW511 2,730 Posted November 7, 2020 Posted November 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Pollyanna said: Merrett and Treloar are both very good players but Merrett is 2.5 years younger so is a more attractive option. And Merrett is a very neat kick Quote
Demon Dude 430 Posted November 7, 2020 Posted November 7, 2020 i'd happily trade out some of our average surplus mids like Harmes and AVB and free up the money to bring in Treloar. Treloar has burst speed which they lack and he'd add another dimension to make our midfield instantly more dangerous. Quote
old dee 24,083 Posted November 7, 2020 Posted November 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Demon Dude said: i'd happily trade out some of our average surplus mids like Harmes and AVB and free up the money to bring in Treloar. Treloar has burst speed which they lack and he'd add another dimension to make our midfield instantly more dangerous. Cannot hit targets we need that like a hole in the head. Grossly over paid by Collingwood I hope they are stuck with him. 4 1 Quote
Demon Dude 430 Posted November 7, 2020 Posted November 7, 2020 19 minutes ago, old dee said: Cannot hit targets we need that like a hole in the head. Grossly over paid by Collingwood I hope they are stuck with him. Harmes and AVB cant hit targets either. Quote
old dee 24,083 Posted November 7, 2020 Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Demon Dude said: Harmes and AVB cant hit targets either. But they don't get paid $1 million PA for the next four years. Quote
Demon Dude 430 Posted November 7, 2020 Posted November 7, 2020 19 minutes ago, old dee said: But they don't get paid $1 million PA for the next four years. that's because they're not as good as Treloar. I agree that his current contract is overvalued, but i dare say he could be got for cheaper than that. Quote
old dee 24,083 Posted November 7, 2020 Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Demon Dude said: that's because they're not as good as Treloar. I agree that his current contract is overvalued, but i dare say he could be got for cheaper than that. He has a contract that has to be honoured. Any team that takes him has to pay it less whatever Collingwood would supplement. Why is no one rushing to get him? 1 Quote
Demon Dude 430 Posted November 7, 2020 Posted November 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, old dee said: He has a contract that has to be honoured. Any team that takes him has to pay it less whatever Collingwood would supplement. Why is no one rushing to get him? because teams are smart and waiting to see how low the Pies will go when they get desperate to move him on later next week. 2 Quote
TRIGON 4,821 Posted November 7, 2020 Posted November 7, 2020 2 hours ago, old dee said: He has a contract that has to be honoured. Any team that takes him has to pay it less whatever Collingwood would supplement. Why is no one rushing to get him? You'll learn patience with age. 1 1 Quote
demoniac 1,337 Posted November 7, 2020 Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) Treloar turns 28 in March 2021 so the 5 seasons left on his Pies contract covering his 28 to 32 year old seasons. He's had recent history of significant soft tissue injuries. His contract pays him above market terms based on his ability and recent availability and it runs for another 5 seasons till he turns 32. Hard to see how Pies can shift him unless they agree to cover ballpark $1,000,000 of his contract over remaining 5 years. Or a combination of Pies subsidy and Treloar agreeing to take a pay cut (Why would he?). Pies have next to no hand. Treloar can say no to a trade and force Pies to honour contract or tell them which Melbourne based club he has agreed to go to and with which they make a trade. Salary dumps are common in salary cap sports but a salary cap dump of a contract that has 5 seasons to run requires a special kind of stupid. What a salary cap cluster seemingly caused by above market contracts post 2018 Grand Final and unplanned for trading back in of Beams. The later requiring the disastrous extension for Treloar to push back money to fit Beams in. Overpayed Grundy and signed him till 2027 ie his 33 year old season. Pendlebury in 33 year old season in 2021 and I'd suspect he is still in upper echelon of player contracts despite being past his prime. Good luck Pies. OK. Not really. Edited November 7, 2020 by demoniac word left out 5 1 1 1 Quote
Ethan Tremblay 31,388 Posted November 7, 2020 Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) It’s probably already been stated or asked in this thread but didn’t he re-jig his contract upon request from Collingwood so they could squeeze a couple of players into their salary cap? Now that deal is starting to hurt them they want him gone. Incredible (if true). Edited November 7, 2020 by Ethan Tremblay Autocorrect 2 1 Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,458 Posted November 7, 2020 Posted November 7, 2020 1 hour ago, demoniac said: Treloar turns 28 in March 2021 so the 5 seasons left on his Pies contract covering his 28 to 32 year old seasons. He's had recent history of significant soft tissue injuries. His contract pays him above market terms based on his ability and recent availability and it runs for another 5 seasons till he turns 32. Hard to see how Pies can shift him unless they agree to cover ballpark $1,000,000 of his contract over remaining 5 years. Or a combination of Pies subsidy and Treloar agreeing to take a pay cut (Why would he?). Pies have next to no hand. Treloar can say no to a trade and force Pies to honour contract or tell them which Melbourne based club he has agreed to go to and with which they make a trade. Salary dumps are common in salary cap sports but a salary cap dump of a contract that has 5 seasons to run requires a special kind of stupid. What a salary cap cluster seemingly caused by above market contracts post 2018 Grand Final and unplanned for trading back in of Beams. The later requiring the disastrous extension for Treloar to push back money to fit Beams in. Overpayed Grundy and signed him till 2027 ie his 33 year old season. Pendlebury in 33 year old season in 2021 and I'd suspect he is still in upper echelon of player contracts despite being past his prime. Good luck Pies. OK. Not really. Beautiful Reading ? Trelaor will be paid out, no other Club is going to touch that situation if they have an ounce of intelligence. This could stuff the Filth for years 1 Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,458 Posted November 7, 2020 Posted November 7, 2020 46 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said: It’s probably already been stayed or asked in this thread but didn’t he re-jig his contract upon request from Collingwood so they could squeeze a couple of players into their salary cap? Now that deal is starting to hurt them they want him gone. Incredible (if true). Back ended at least twice.... No wonder Eddie is going grey as quick as Obama! 1 Quote
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