2021 AFL National Draft prospects: The next batch

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

1 hour ago, Turner said:

i had this exact thought today too, losing CCJ and chol hurts them for the future but i think they'll really load up for the now and risk dropping off in 2years time. pick 20 of NM is being speculated and the tiges might pounce then if mac is still on the board as its the last NGA free pick

I didn’t think about North but they need stability and established talent. You don’t go blowing speculative picks which is still what Mac is IMO. There maybe a connection with Daw and North though. 

[Elwood 3184 1,311]

9 hours ago, CYB said:

On Mac, I think Richmond will probably take him with their 2nd pick @ 15ish. Can’t see any other team in that range taking the risk as they will have more pressing needs to fill. 
 

There is still a chance he comes through to us. We need about 878 points to bid after pick 20  which we don’t have without using our 2nd rounder. i suspect we would have to move a few players to get all of Cerra, Mac and Taj. It would be quite a steal if the team could pull that off.

On the other hand, Richmond, of all clubs would be aware of the risks involved with taking a player who’s promise lies in the far distant future. They are losing/ditching Mabior Chol who came to them as a thin, lanky project ruckman and took six years to attain the level of NQR. 

[Mach5 4,767]

I love reading FoxFooty’s AFL Draft Power Rankings Top 20 intro:

”There’s a ‘fab four’ followed by a peloton of four to six players. Then you could almost throw a blanket over the next 40, such is the evenness of talent across the class.”

Standard fare to get supporters of clubs without good draft hands interested, but music to my ears nonetheless.

Jason Taylor & Tim Lamb - get to work panning for gold.

[Turner 1,514]

15 hours ago, CYB said:

I didn’t think about North but they need stability and established talent. You don’t go blowing speculative picks which is still what Mac is IMO. There maybe a connection with Daw and North though. 

sorry i don't think i explained myself properly, tigers recieve pick 20 off north for CCJ and its them who takes mac, thats my thought process anyway. CCJ was drafted with pick 21 so would be around that price still in trade value a few years on as a highly rated and now developed big man

[Mach5 4,767]

CCJ through the PSD, I’d have thought.

Nice little freebie for North who need the support.

[Whispering_Jack 30,173]

4 hours ago, Turner said:

sorry i don't think i explained myself properly, tigers recieve pick 20 off north for CCJ and its them who takes mac, thats my thought process anyway. CCJ was drafted with pick 21 so would be around that price still in trade value a few years on as a highly rated and now developed big man

Pick 20 probably wouldn’t do it. Once you factor in father/sons like Daicos and Darcy that pick might become 22.

[spirit of norm smith 16,462]

Early days given focus is on GF.

But this kid just keeps on impressing and could be in our draft window

Isaac Birt

Running midfielder or half back types.  Good pace and skills. Loves a goal. 

[Elwood 3184 1,311]

5 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Early days given focus is on GF.

But this kid just keeps on impressing and could be in our draft window

Isaac Birt

Running midfielder or half back types.  Good pace and skills. Loves a goal. 

From the Herald Sun 2021 Draft Guide.

Isaac Birt Midfielder

Age: 4/6/2003

Weight: 70kg

Height: 181cm

Club: South Adelaide/SA

Stats

2021 SANFL U18 (16 games)

115 ranking points, 20.6 disposals, 5.5 intercepts, 5.1 inside-50s

2020 SANFL U18 (15 games)

62 ranking points, 14.7 disposals, 5.7 marks, 11 uncontested possessions

Birt is another young Panther to catch the eye of recruiters, putting together a consistent season on a wing in the under-18s, named in his side’s best in eight of his 13 matches. The left-footer has great skills, delivers with precision inside-50 and wins the ball in the air and on the ground. Birt had 16 disposals and eight marks against WA and produced one of the SANFL under-18 competition’s best performances of the year, tallying 31 disposals, 13 contested possessions, 12 score involvements, 11 intercepts, two goals and 226 ranking points against Norwood in Round 10.

[spirit of norm smith 16,462]

2 hours ago, Elwood 3184 said:

From the Herald Sun 2021 Draft Guide.

Isaac Birt Midfielder

Age: 4/6/2003

Weight: 70kg

Height: 181cm

Club: South Adelaide/SA

Stats

2021 SANFL U18 (16 games)

115 ranking points, 20.6 disposals, 5.5 intercepts, 5.1 inside-50s

2020 SANFL U18 (15 games)

62 ranking points, 14.7 disposals, 5.7 marks, 11 uncontested possessions

Birt is another young Panther to catch the eye of recruiters, putting together a consistent season on a wing in the under-18s, named in his side’s best in eight of his 13 matches. The left-footer has great skills, delivers with precision inside-50 and wins the ball in the air and on the ground. Birt had 16 disposals and eight marks against WA and produced one of the SANFL under-18 competition’s best performances of the year, tallying 31 disposals, 13 contested possessions, 12 score involvements, 11 intercepts, two goals and 226 ranking points against Norwood in Round 10.

Spot on. Was very good in SA AND WA game 

[Whispering_Jack 30,173]

Most of us missed (and for good reason) this but on Friday night in Adelaide, a young player stamped himself on the football scene. Jason Horne-Francis kicked three goals and shone in a losing team in the SANFL Preliminary Final. He’s been going neck and neck with Nick Daicos for the # 1 draft mantle and probably got his nose in front. 

Jason Horne-Francis stars in ‘electrifying’ SANFL prelim performance for South Adelaide

 

[Whispering_Jack 30,173]

Meanwhile, in the curtain-raiser to the AFL Grand Final in Perth, a couple of the top draft prospects suffered worrying injuries. WA won the game by 5 points over SA making it their second win over the Croweaters in a month but a number of players were missing on both sides due to club finals. Melbourne father/son prospect Taj Woewodin was one of the missing - he lines up this morning  for East Fremantle Colts in a Preliminary Final against Swan Districts. 

Injury concerns for top draft prospects after U19 curtain-raiser

[spirit of norm smith 16,462]

Dees probably looking at about 4 draftees this year.

Mac Andrew is going to be a chance but we will have to see if he goes top 20 and we miss out.  Hope we get him in. 

With our picks starting in the high 30s then through to pick 70 ish range most likely. I’m confident JT and his team will again scout out our needs. Given our current picks and likely midfield depth priorities, I think some names to consider 

Isaac Birt - South Adelaide wingman. Strong runner and loves a goal.
Blake Howes - Sandy Dragons. Athletic wing and half forward.  
Mitch Knevitt - Geelong Falcons.  Tall athletic half forward and onballer. 
Rhett Bazzo - WA. Taller back with good mark, skills and run.
Corey Warner - WA. tall mid with energy at the footy
Lewis Rayson - Glenelg SA. Looked good in SAvWA game with run and skills plus good tackle and defensive footy.
Sam Banks - Tassie half back. Great skills. 
Miller Bergman - Stingrays wingman. Running skilled mid. 
Will Bravo - Stingrays Bull. Cracks in and has pace to clear the contest. 

father son - Taj Woewodin 

NGA - Andy Moniz-Wakefield 

Edited September 28, 2021 by spirit of norm smith
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[Red and Blue realist 2,051]

On 9/26/2021 at 6:51 AM, Whispering_Jack said:

Melbourne father/son prospect Taj Woewodin was one of the missing - he lines up this morning  for East Fremantle Colts in a Preliminary Final against Swan Districts. 

Woewodin had 22 touches, 4 tackles and a goal to be named in the bests for East Freo, he played against Kobe Farmer - although Farmer only had 6 touches (no goals). Swan Districts won the game by 2 points. 

[durango 2,007]

I suspect that Taj and Shane now have got a good reason to join the club as a father and son prospect, good development program and coaching to maximise his potential and a premiership to boot.

[Whispering_Jack 30,173]

With less than two months to go to the National Draft, it’s becoming clear that apart from the first three or four candidates who seem to be the standouts, it’s fairly even thereafter. Cal Twomey’s form guide bears this out as far as I’m concerned. I think there will be ample players available in the 20s who could be moulded by Melbourne’s development people into solid AFL players so if we can trade up a couple of picks/players and parlay them into the high teens or 20s, we could do well notwithstanding that our current draft hand doesn’t look to be particularly appealing.

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' September ranking

 

 

[Whispering_Jack 30,173]

Everyone knows where I stand about the overhyping of Mac Andrew so I’m not going to labour the point other than to make a comment about Twomey’s observation that “he kicks goals”. He played 8 games of footy this year and kicked one goal on three occasions for an overall total of three. If you’re a recruiter looking for a Coleman Medallist then I suggest that you suspend belief in this expert and you apply the principle of “caveat emptor”.

[drdrake 3,178]

I hope Toby Conway gets to our first pick.  We are in the fortunate position that we can draft a Ruck/Forward and develop him at Casey for 2-3 years.

[spirit of norm smith 16,462]

Picks 33, 42, 54 as per final ladder positions.  
 

Two in second round and one in the third round. 
 

 

[drdrake 3,178]

I can see us moving up in the draft, something like Pick 33 and Future second round for GCS Pick 19 and Future 3rd.

 

[Pennant St Dee 13,185]

Would love Cory Warner to fall to us, Arthur Jones indigenous HFF with good work ethic and eye for goal also one to consider as I’m not sure Bedford will make it.

Riley Sprigg a late pick potential rookie with plenty of time to develop. Decent ruckman who needs to build a tank but the tools are there.

These are all obviously WA boys

[ChaserJ 5,096]

Benefits of making the GF is the opportunity for JT and Lamb to get to some games in WA to see some of the kids play live, both in WAFL/Colts as well as the GF curtain raiser. Every advantage counts!

[whatwhat say what 22,771]

48 minutes ago, drdrake said:

I can see us moving up in the draft, something like Pick 33 and Future second round for GCS Pick 19 and Future 3rd.

 

possible but unlikely - gc17 want to shed picks in 2021, not gain em, as they have so many players contracted for 2022

[Little Goffy 14,568]

Even taken with many grains of salt, I noticed one thing I liked about Twomey's projections. There are a few respectable medium-sized defenders mentioned in the late first early second round

I'd make a confident guess that we'll be trading up to the end of the first round and making sure we get Jason Taylor's favorite out of the four candidates; Tom Brown, Darcy Wilmot, Campbell Chesser, Josh Sinn.

After that, it'll be a late draft party for minimum salary cap and the joys of speculating.

[Mach5 4,767]

On 9/30/2021 at 11:48 AM, whatwhat say what said:

possible but unlikely - gc17 want to shed picks in 2021, not gain em, as they have so many players contracted for 2022

More likely for GC to try to load up on future picks, due to their lack of list spots.

[Whispering_Jack 30,173]

Swan Districts won the WAFL Colts Grand Final by 8 points in a thriller. The game was available for viewing by way of a streaming link that wasn’t of great quality. Claremont’s Angus Sheldrick was close to best in ground with 27 touches and a couple of outstanding goals in the third term. We also saw a great contest between KPP’s Jacob Van Rooyen who booted 3 early goals (finished with 4) but was quelled by Swan Districts defender Rhett Bazzo. Both have played well representing WA in the Under 19s. I would be very happy if Melbourne could somehow manage to get a draft pick in the teens or early twenties where both are tipped to be selected.