We've done the Goody discussion to death. Don't think there's much doubt he'll see out the year and probably more likely than not to be there next year. So thought it might be time to discuss the current assistants and potential targets for next year. A football department review will no doubt be starting soon, and the assistant coaches will be seen as the main area we can improve and afford to change.

This is just opinion.

Alan Richardson - Safe. Contract and experience will keep him there.

Troy Chaplin - Probably safe. Backline has been a strength this year despite the chaos around it. Only thing might be his relationship with Mahoney given Mahoney is a high chance to not be at the club next year.

Justin Plapp - Gone. Have always liked him, but can't defend how poor our midfield has been both in skills and connection.

Ben Mathews - Probably gone. Highly rated in AFL circles, but feel like if we don't lift in his areas then he'll be moved on or he may just feel it's time for a change.

Matthew Egan - Gone. Couple of his mates in McCartney and Jennings gone, players either not developing or going backwards.

Max Rooke - Gone. Was told he was gone last year but somehow survived. Almost identical to Egan in his KPIs surely not being met and his mates now mostly gone.

Sam Radford - No idea tbh. Probably safe purely from the Casey connection.

(Have I missed anyone?)

That would leave us with a lot of holes to fill. So who do we realistically go for?

Edited August 1, 20205 yr by Lord Nev

Got in early 'Nev'...I thought the big 'E' would have started this thread by now along with his 100's & 1,000'S of others since Thursday...

2 minutes ago, rjay said:

Got in early 'Nev'...I thought the big 'E' would have started this thread by now along with his 100's & 1,000'S of others since Thursday...

Saving him (us) from starting a thread for each of them...

Stafford? Can't say our goal kicking has improved

Chaplin needs to go.

Our whole FD needs a complete clean out, with the incoming coach (hopefully one with previous AFL coaching experience) being able to bring in any assistant coaches they require.

I guess I’ll leave this one here. 

 

2 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

We've done the Goody discussion to death. Don't think there's much doubt he'll see out the year and probably more likely than not to be there next year. So thought it might be time to discuss the current assistants and potential targets for next year. A football department review will no doubt be starting soon, and the assistant coaches will be seen as the main area we can improve and afford to change.

This is just opinion.

Alan Richardson - Safe. Contract and experience will keep him there.

Troy Chaplin - Probably safe. Backline has been a strength this year despite the chaos around it. Only thing might be his relationship with Mahoney given Mahoney is a high chance to not be at the club next year.

Justin Plapp - Gone. Have always liked him, but can't defend how poor our midfield has been both in skills and connection.

Ben Mathews - Probably gone. Highly rated in AFL circles, but feel like if we don't lift in his areas then he'll be moved on or he may just feel it's time for a change.

Matthew Egan - Gone. Couple of his mates in McCartney and Jennings gone, players either not developing or going backwards.

Max Rooke - Gone. Was told he was gone last year but somehow survived. Almost identical to Egan in his KPIs surely not being met and his mates now mostly gone.

Sam Radford - No idea tbh. Probably safe purely from the Casey connection.

(Have I missed anyone?)

That would leave us with a lot of holes to fill. So who do we realistically go for?

Average list of assistants, wouldn’t miss any of them. 
Another win for Saints today, wonder what Richo has learnt from that situation??

Get Caracella

1 hour ago, Mickey said:

Stafford? Can't say our goal kicking has improved

Ah yep! Ironically I was talking about him in another thread when I posted this too!

Ruck setup and goal kicking has been horrible this year, doesn't look good for him.

SACK THEM ALL!

Roughead as a forward coach would be my pick. Probably not gettable. Yze or Voss for senior coach. 

Voss has a lot more C@&! in him, I’d take him. Don’t care how highly rated Yze is. 
 

 

17 minutes ago, BW511 said:

Voss has a lot more C@&! in him, I’d take him. Don’t care how highly rated Yze is. 
 

 

Voss tried and failed not sure he would be that great. Yze will be a great coach being coached under the coach of the century in Clarkson. Clarkson would be my pick if he can get Hawthorn up with that ordinary list he can do anything.

Never thought I'd say it, but I'd also be open to Ross Lyon.

Teague, Shaw, Ratten...

Given 2019, You'd think an assistant coaching role with potential for promotion to a caretaking coach role might be coveted enough to bring in some decent fresh minds into the club. The Yze and Brad Miller types that have been in the system close to 10 years should be eyeing off assistant roles here.

Although any more of last week, or not enough improvement in general and we can skip all that and start interviews for almost all positions in 2 months time.

I shudder at the thought of anyone currently there taking over for 10 long weeks next year. Treading water

Edited August 1, 20205 yr by John Demonic

Is Alan Richardson an assistant coach or is he some kind of mentor for Goodwin?  Whats his official job title?

No idea why we got him...   he gave off Neeld vibes when at the Saints.

 

Has everyone forgotten we had a major football department review and overhaul a mere 9 months ago? 

We chose to have the coaches we have.  Or we couldn't get who we wanted so had to settle for second, third best.

Lots of names being thrown around.  Looks like wishful thinking.  I mean why would the names being mentioned want to come to the mfc.

Re Richardson.  I was critical of his appointment and I've had a really good look at his CV.  I see nothing that says he is a good coach or has been part of a successful club.  He leaves the Saints and they now sit 3rd on the ladder.  I have yet to see a positive impact of his recruitment to mfc.   I hope someone can shed some light on why we hired him.  

Edited August 1, 20205 yr by Lucifer's Hero

1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Has everyone forgotten we had a major football department review and overhaul a mere 9 months ago? 

We chose to have the coaches we have.  Or we couldn't get who we wanted so had to settle for second, third best.

Lots of names being thrown around.  Looks like wishful thinking.  I mean why would the names being mentioned want to come to the mfc.

Re Richardson.  I was critical of his appointment and I've had a really good look at his CV.  I see nothing that says he is a good coach or has been part of a successful club.  He leaves the Saints and they now sit 3rd on the ladder.  I have yet to see a positive impact of his recruitment to mfc.   I hope someone can shed some light on why we hired him.  

I agree we're going to have a hard time attracting the big name assistants, but having a review doesn't mean we got the review right. The review was done by one of the people who should have been under review. Plus, all they did was shuffle the existing coaches around.

 

1 minute ago, Lord Nev said:

I agree we're going to have a hard time attracting the big name assistants, but having a review doesn't mean we got the review right. The review was done by one of the people who should have been under review. Plus, all they did was shuffle the existing coaches around.

Clearly we got it wrong.  I've said so ad nauseam.  Also said numerous times Mahoney should not have reviewed his own department.  For him it was about maintaining the status quo.  

We did more than just shuffle coaches, we let go many quality coaches and kept/got inexperienced/unsuccessful ones.  Not a formula for success.

 

14 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Clearly we got it wrong.  I've said so ad nauseam.  Also said numerous times Mahoney should not have reviewed his own department.  For him it was about maintaining the status quo.  

We did more than just shuffle coaches, we let go many quality coaches and kept/got inexperienced/unsuccessful ones.  Not a formula for success.

Those coaches didn't leave until end of season though, so hard to definitively say that was due to the review. Rawlings chose to leave as well, he's a smart operator so I wonder if he saw the writing on the wall.

For mine, the assistant coaching changes made last year were more about getting rid of anyone who challenged Goody rather than developing a cohesive environment of different voices.

Stubbornness is they key word.

2 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Has everyone forgotten we had a major football department review and overhaul a mere 9 months ago? 

We chose to have the coaches we have.  Or we couldn't get who we wanted so had to settle for second, third best.

Lots of names being thrown around.  Looks like wishful thinking.  I mean why would the names being mentioned want to come to the mfc.

Re Richardson.  I was critical of his appointment and I've had a really good look at his CV.  I see nothing that says he is a good coach or has been part of a successful club.  He leaves the Saints and they now sit 3rd on the ladder.  I have yet to see a positive impact of his recruitment to mfc.   I hope someone can shed some light on why we hired him.  

Which was conducted by Josh Mahoney..

Go figure hey.

Edited August 2, 20205 yr by dazzledavey36

Damian Carroll

Don't know a lot about him I'll confess, but 10 years in charge of development for the Hawks is a pretty good resume.

Assistant coach cull: Hawks, Suns make tough decisions

 

Solomon for me.

7 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Solomon for me.

Any inside goss on what went on there DD? Seems like a strange one, contracted for another 2 years apparently. What's Solo's go? Strengths? Don't know much about him as a coach.

Also just quietly, really hoping we have another crack at a certain Hawks assistant this year too...

14 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Any inside goss on what went on there DD? Seems like a strange one, contracted for another 2 years apparently. What's Solo's go? Strengths? Don't know much about him as a coach.

Also just quietly, really hoping we have another crack at a certain Hawks assistant this year too...

Nah not too sure mate. Had a relative who played at the suns and retired last year.

Remember he pointed out Solomon as one of the best blokes he's met in footy. Didn't take much notice at the time, only pricked up upon hearing the latest news.

Edited August 25, 20205 yr by dazzledavey36