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Petty is a better forward anyway.

But back to Oscar. Any backline with Oscar in it isn't a good backline. 

He is slow in the mind and on the field. He is weak for his size. He has no confidence (i dont blame him) and has very lowfooty iq. Why would we let Frost go before Oscar ? 

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    6 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

    Petty is a better forward anyway.

    But back to Oscar. Any backline with Oscar in it isn't a good backline. 

    He is slow in the mind and on the field. He is weak for his size. He has no confidence (i dont blame him) and has very lowfooty iq. Why would we let Frost go before Oscar ? 

    We couldn't afford him due to the 3 first rounders we gave away for 2 B grade defenders 

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    My problem with Oscar is if the game plan works and we get up the ground pressure he'll sit back and make a few easy spoils and take some uncontested marks and look like a decent player.

    But if the game plan breaks down and he's trapped on a quick forward he'll offer nothing.

    So if plan A works he pretty much does an ok job. If plan A fails he's stuffed. It's the same problem with Lever. 

    Being a tall defender in modern footy shouldn't be that hard. There's not many good forwards and most teams will provide pretty good defensive cover. Heck I just saw Harry Taylor and Lachie Henderson dominate a game the other night and they are 100 years old combined.

    Oscar simply has to believe in himself and offer more. When the pressure is on and the forward entries are poor he has to go grabs some intercept marks. And when the ball is coming in hot he has to find that yard of pace or smarts to get a spoil in. And he can use the ball so bloody get it and take game on with some proper kicks as well!

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    18 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

    My problem with Oscar is if the game plan works and we get up the ground pressure he'll sit back and make a few easy spoils and take some uncontested marks and look like a decent player.

    But if the game plan breaks down and he's trapped on a quick forward he'll offer nothing.

    So if plan A works he pretty much does an ok job. If plan A fails he's stuffed. It's the same problem with Lever. 

    Being a tall defender in modern footy shouldn't be that hard. There's not many good forwards and most teams will provide pretty good defensive cover. Heck I just saw Harry Taylor and Lachie Henderson dominate a game the other night and they are 100 years old combined.

    Oscar simply has to believe in himself and offer more. When the pressure is on and the forward entries are poor he has to go grabs some intercept marks. And when the ball is coming in hot he has to find that yard of pace or smarts to get a spoil in. And he can use the ball so bloody get it and take game on with some proper kicks as well!

    I reckon it's a systems thing. Our system makes things tougher for our entire team.

    When our pressure drops below a certain point our defenders cop it. When our mids and backs fail to deliver the ball to the advantage of forwards, our forwards look hopeless. 

    It's as I said in the post match thread, there's too much that can go wrong with Goodwin's system and it makes players look worse than they are IMO. 

    I'm happy with our defence as a unit. I don't think we missed Nev tonight. Lockhart showed some good flashes in the first half and then faded as the team was overawed. Sure, our defenders panicked, but I think because our midfield was so sloppy and our they put in so little effort, our defence was made to look much worse.

    In terms of mechanisms for generating scores, I think Goodwin has one game. It's quick decisive ball movement from one end of the ground to the other. We've also developed an ability to go a bit slower when held up. But our biggest problem, which everyone bangs on about, is our inability to capitalise on the hit outs and use this to generate scores.

    It used to be that if you won the clearance, you'd get a chance at a score. But then somewhere either in 2011 or post 2011, teams like Geelong decided you could win games by giving up the clearance, provided it was a pressured clearance.

    I think the likes of Geelong and even Hawthorn, have reverted to the clearance concession because they know they don't have the cattle to win contested possession from centre clearance, but we do, and Goodwin hasn't devised a system that will enable us to capitalise on this. It's a massive inditement on him.

    The very good backmen in the comp still look ordinary when there's little midfield pressure and they're exposed. Oscar isn't great, but he's slowly improving. 

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    If anything, this thread shows that we as a club, both from the club itself and us as supporters, are far too quick to praise players when they play a few good games.  

    I'll admit - his return to the side coincided with a short run of good form, and he played some good footy, and I was happy to praise his performance

    But it's almost as if the club knows that he is a maligned player, so the moment he played a good game of footy they put out a video of his highlights as if they want to stick it right up the supporters.

    What he played in those past few weeks is what he should be doing each and every week.  Why we needed to highlight it straight away is beyond me, and I'm guilty of falling for it myself.

    It works both ways though.  The moment a player has a bad game we've got the bottom feeders starting threads to pot them.  Then they play a good game and we're all jumping back on.  

    What's next?  Nibbler comes back, kicks a few goals from 10 disposals and we're starting an appreciation thread for him?  Then the next week he misses a few shots and we're all wishing that he never plays another AFL game again.

    Give me a spell.  Oscar is far from the problem with our side at present, but jumping on or off him based on one or two games is madness.

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    Agreed Oscar is far from the Problem, But for the most everyone was poor last night, which has lead to the bumping of the usual threads/arguments.

    at the end of the day, people want to blame/point fingers after losses but with the performance last night you'll need more hands/fingers to point blame at the players/coaching staff who were below par. 

     

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    Went from Glen Jackovich two weeks ago to Tom Gillies last night.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Sorry I've always wanted to say that...

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    This guy is painful to watch. I never want to see him in the red and blue again 

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    5 minutes ago, Elegt said:

    This guy is painful to watch. I never want to see him in the red and blue again 

    I cannot believe people defend this bloke. Bog ordinary, not up top it.

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    Just now, FireInTheBennelly said:

    I cannot believe people defend this bloke. Bog ordinary, not up top it.

    Yep. Played a couple of solid games against average teams at the start of the year and people thought he was good. He should never have been in the team. No pace, no skills, no situational awareness. Gutless.

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    "Appreciation thread". Lol. You guys who started this look stupid now. This bloke is literally worse than Tom gillies 

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    1 hour ago, Elegt said:

    "Appreciation thread". Lol. You guys who started this look stupid now. This bloke is literally worse than Tom gillies 

    Only at Melbourne would a player this bad make it to a 6th season, and still be getting games....

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    1 minute ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

    Only at Melbourne would a player this bad make it to a 6th season, and still be getting games....

    And be getting threads from supporters saying how good he is

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    What does the coaching group / selection committee consistently see in him to regularly pick him??? I’d love to know. 
    never ever resembled an AFL player. 

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    When I saw Goodwin approach Oscar after the Saints game with such enthusiasm, I thought, “FFS please let that not be a sign he’ll get a game next week.”  But should have known that after Melksham, he’s Godwin’s second great love. 

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    On 7/31/2020 at 11:56 AM, dazzledavey36 said:

    Went from Glen Jackovich two weeks ago to Tom Gillies last night.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Sorry I've always wanted to say that...

    Harsh Dazzle I would have thought ... Tom Gillies one week to ......... Insert space

    Shocking!!

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    I hand on heart believe I could defend better than Oscar McDonald. Not that I'm any good, he is just that bad and it's a disgrace that the mfc have given him so much time on our list.

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    Look, I'd much rather Demonland have positive threads on our players, rather than it continually be clogged up with threads started by Olisik or Elegt potting everyone under the sun. 

    But OMac is bad. Really bad. Making the same mistakes he's always made, showing no improvement.

    Fingers crossed Petty and/or Hore are fit and ready to go next year.

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    I remember his first year, and I question why he was gifted games, week after week in being beaten. He was slow, no intensity and lacked awareness.  I said to myself that over time through experience and more game time he'll  maybe get better. Wasn't a fan but was willing to give him time.

    My god i couldn't be any more wrong. He is worse now then when he started. He is legit one of the worse players I've ever seen. 

    He is currently OOC.  Do the right thing Melbourne and just trade him for a 4th rounder and immediately cut ties. 

    No one can simply justify why he should be in the team anymore.

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    23 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

    Look, I'd much rather Demonland have positive threads on our players, rather than it continually be clogged up with threads started by Olisik or Elegt potting everyone under the sun. 

    But OMac is bad. Really bad. Making the same mistakes he's always made, showing no improvement.

    Fingers crossed Petty and/or Hore are fit and ready to go next year.

    Oofa doof. Petty, please. Hore is a turnover merchant. A decent intercept market, but Tom McDonald-like with ball in hand.

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    I’ll never forget the pre season footage the club released a few years back of him slowly bouncing on a mini trampoline (or similar) and being unable to catch a few tennis balls thrown at him from two feet away. That’s when I knew...

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    19 minutes ago, Beetle said:

    I’ll never forget the pre season footage the club released a few years back of him slowly bouncing on a mini trampoline (or similar) and being unable to catch a few tennis balls thrown at him from two feet away. That’s when I knew...

    where is this footage

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